• Mastodon - wich server to

    From Mindsurfer@VERT/FUNTOPIA to All on Mon Dec 29 13:36:00 2025
    Hi there,

    I am quite happy how Twitter/X has changed for the better, but i want to keep up with technology, not stay in my bubble only and at least also have an account with Mastodon.
    Am i right, that each server can have its own set of rules
    and that you could be canceled by your server admin if they think you promote what they understand as hatespeech etc?

    So, if thats right, i would need to find a server that is pro free speech, no matter what political view someone has. And does accept everything that is not against the law, even bad humor etc. basically like DOVEnet ;)

    Or am i completely wrong and it does not matter at all what Mastodon Server to choose? What is the server i am looking for?

    btw: how does that work in Mastodon. What would happen if a Server goes offline? Do you loose your account then?

    Mindsurfer

    PS: i don't think that i want to selfhost a Mastodon Server

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Mindsurfer on Mon Dec 29 13:17:04 2025
    Re: Mastodon - wich server to
    By: Mindsurfer to All on Mon Dec 29 2025 01:36 pm

    Hi there,

    I am quite happy how Twitter/X has changed for the better, but i want
    to keep up with technology, not stay in my bubble only and at least

    it's because most of the trash left twitter.
    funny how that works out.


    Or am i completely wrong and it does not matter at all what Mastodon
    Server to choose? What is the server i am looking for?

    btw: how does that work in Mastodon. What would happen if a Server
    goes offline? Do you loose your account then?


    i've played around with mastadon servers but couldn't really get into it.
    are you sure this is something you want to do?

    it's just another fish bowl, just someplace else.

    i'm really happy with just using telegram.

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  • From Mindsurfer@VERT/FUNTOPIA to MRO on Mon Dec 29 21:25:00 2025
    Re: Mastodon - wich server to
    By: MRO to Mindsurfer on Mon Dec 29 2025 13:17:04

    btw: how does that work in Mastodon. What would happen if a Server goes
    offline? Do you loose your account then?

    i've played around with mastadon servers but couldn't really get into it. are you sure this is something you want to do?
    i asked AI about Mastodon and one odd point was that it is anti-viral.
    I thought certain topics going viral is one of the selling points of social media.

    it's just another fish bowl, just someplace else.
    i'm really happy with just using telegram.
    i have an account with mastodon.social now, wich should be the main server. Well, it looks and feels like a non-viral, non-algorithmic Twitter version and i just couldn't find any interesting accounts to follow yet.
    i think some BBSes have accounts there. i will look for those now.

    Mindsurfer

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Mindsurfer on Mon Dec 29 14:42:43 2025
    Re: Mastodon - wich server to
    By: Mindsurfer to MRO on Mon Dec 29 2025 09:25 pm

    i asked AI about Mastodon and one odd point was that it is anti-viral. I thought certain topics going viral is one of the selling points of social media.

    When it said it's anti-viral, does that mean in the sense of preventing computer viruses?

    Nightfox

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  • From Mindsurfer@VERT/FUNTOPIA to Nightfox on Tue Dec 30 00:53:00 2025
    Re: Mastodon - wich server to
    By: Nightfox to Mindsurfer on Mon Dec 29 2025 14:42:43

    i asked AI about Mastodon and one odd point was that it is anti-viral. I
    thought certain topics going viral is one of the selling points of social
    media.

    When it said it's anti-viral, does that mean in the sense of preventing computer viruses?

    Exactly. You can disable any Anti-Virus software when using Mastodon.

    Or it is anti-viral in the sense that a post on Mastodon does not spread rapidly among a large number of users through an algorithm.

    Mindsurfer


    BraveAI:

    Mastodon is explicitly designed as an anti-viral and anti-algorithmic social network, prioritizing user control and genuine interaction over virality and algorithmic manipulation.
    Unlike platforms such as Twitter or Facebook, Mastodon does not use algorithms to curate or prioritize content in users' timelines.
    Instead, the home timeline is a simple, chronological feed of posts from accounts a user follows, ensuring that content visibility depends solely on direct engagement rather than algorithmic amplification.
    This design choice means that posts are not resurfaced days later, and users must actively engage with their audience at optimal times to be seen.

    The platform's anti-viral nature is intentional, as it was engineered to create friction and slow down the rapid spread of content, which contrasts with the velocity-driven culture of mainstream social media.
    This approach discourages outrage-based virality and reduces the pressure to post frequently or chase trends, fostering more thoughtful and nuanced discussions.
    The absence of algorithmic curation also means that likes, boosts (retweets), and other engagement metrics do not influence what appears in a user's feed, and many servers do not even display these counts to avoid promoting popularity-driven behavior.

    Furthermore, Mastodon's decentralized architecture, where each independent server (instance) sets its own rules and moderation policies, supports a community-driven approach to content management.
    This contrasts with centralized platforms that rely on automated filters and corporate moderation, which can prioritize advertiser-friendly content over civil discourse.
    While the platform does not use algorithms to push content, users can still customize their experience through features like keyword filters, content warnings, and the ability to mute or block accounts, giving them significant control over their timelines.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Mindsurfer on Mon Dec 29 17:09:11 2025
    Re: Mastodon - wich server to
    By: Mindsurfer to Nightfox on Tue Dec 30 2025 12:53 am

    When it said it's anti-viral, does that mean in the sense of preventing
    computer viruses?

    Exactly. You can disable any Anti-Virus software when using Mastodon.

    Or it is anti-viral in the sense that a post on Mastodon does not spread rapidly among a large number of users through an algorithm.

    I've never heard "anti-viral" refer to preventing things from going viral online. I've always heard the phrase "anti-viral" (or "anti-virus") referring to getting rid of or preventing computer viruses.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Mindsurfer on Mon Dec 29 20:10:44 2025
    Re: Mastodon - wich server to
    By: Mindsurfer to MRO on Mon Dec 29 2025 09:25 pm

    i've played around with mastadon servers but couldn't really get into it. are you sure this is something you want to do?
    i asked AI about Mastodon and one odd point was that it is
    anti-viral. I thought certain topics going viral is one of the
    selling points of social media.


    it's just another thing doing the same thing as other sites.

    it's just another fish bowl, just someplace else. i'm really happy
    with just using telegram.
    i have an account with mastodon.social now, wich should be the main
    server. Well, it looks and feels like a non-viral, non-algorithmic
    Twitter version and i just couldn't find any interesting accounts
    to follow yet. i think some BBSes have accounts there. i will look
    for those now.

    it just seems fucking boring. i've joined that one and other servers.
    it's nothing i'd want to spend any time on.

    i'm not a fan of twitter either, but it's certainly better after all the censorship and the lefty d-bags left it.

    what are you looking for exactly?
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  • From Mindsurfer@VERT/FUNTOPIA to MRO on Tue Dec 30 11:38:00 2025
    Re: Mastodon - wich server to
    By: MRO to Mindsurfer on Mon Dec 29 2025 20:10:44

    it's just another fish bowl, just someplace else. i'm really happy
    with just using telegram.
    i have an account with mastodon.social now, wich should be the main server.
    Well, it looks and feels like a non-viral, non-algorithmic Twitter version
    and i just couldn't find any interesting accounts to follow yet. i think
    some BBSes have accounts there. i will look for those now.

    it just seems fucking boring. i've joined that one and other servers. it's nothing i'd want to spend any time on.

    i'm not a fan of twitter either, but it's certainly better after all the censorship and the lefty d-bags left it.

    what are you looking for exactly?

    i was basicly looking for polititians, political parties and topics like corona etc in general. i now have found some BBS/Sysop accounts and followed some of who they follow.

    But it is no surprise that i could not find many accounts from people that have bigger accounts on other platforms. when you look at the estimated monthly active users.

    estimated by Gemini AI:
    Plattform | monthly active users

    Facebook 3,07 Mrd
    TikTok 1,60 Mrd
    X (Twitter) 300 - 600 Mio
    Threads 160 - 275 Mio
    BlueSky 20 - 25 Mio
    Mastodon 1 Mio

    Mindsurfer

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Mindsurfer on Tue Dec 30 22:02:57 2025
    Re: Mastodon - wich server to
    By: Mindsurfer to MRO on Tue Dec 30 2025 11:38 am


    estimated by Gemini AI: Plattform | monthly active users

    Facebook 3,07 Mrd TikTok 1,60 Mrd X (Twitter) 300 - 600 Mio Threads
    160 - 275 Mio BlueSky 20 - 25 Mio Mastodon 1 Mio

    Mindsurfer


    i'm surprised you trust AI so freely.
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  • From Mindsurfer@VERT/FUNTOPIA to MRO on Wed Dec 31 17:09:00 2025
    Re: Mastodon - wich server to
    By: MRO to Mindsurfer on Tue Dec 30 2025 22:02:57

    estimated by Gemini AI: Plattform | monthly active users
    Facebook 3,07 Mrd TikTok 1,60 Mrd X (Twitter) 300 - 600 Mio Threads 160 -
    275 Mio BlueSky 20 - 25 Mio Mastodon 1 Mio

    i'm surprised you trust AI so freely.

    Depends on the importance of the topic and how much time one is willing to invest for research. Do you think the information is wrong?

    i can ask Gemini for the sources of course.
    And i could also ask Braves AI. Brave gives out sources for each information automatically.

    Mindsurfer

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Mindsurfer on Wed Dec 31 16:06:07 2025
    Re: Mastodon - wich server to
    By: Mindsurfer to MRO on Wed Dec 31 2025 05:09 pm

    i'm surprised you trust AI so freely.

    Depends on the importance of the topic and how much time one is
    willing to invest for research. Do you think the information
    is wrong?


    i would only want information from that source if it provided where it got
    it.
    i've caught AI being wrong many times.

    i can ask Gemini for the sources of course. And i could also ask
    Braves AI. Brave gives out sources for each information
    automatically.


    no thanks.

    i hate ai just like how i hated people reference wikipedia.
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  • From Adovka@VERT/ANETO to Mindsurfer on Wed Jan 14 16:33:28 2026
    Re: Mastodon - wich server to
    By: Mindsurfer to All on Mon Dec 29 2025 01:36 pm

    Am i right, that each server can have its own set of rules and that you could be canceled by your server admin if they think you promote what they understand as hatespeech etc?

    Since Mastadon is a "federation" basically whats happening is that every server has their own rules, and the funny thing, if server you decide to join is "pro-freespeech" then other servers can just block trafic from and to it.

    A ton of bullshit if you ask me, and one helluva waste time and effort. Creators of mastadon actually looked at Twitter, saw a burning dumpster and decided "yeah we are going to copy every aspect of this". Same for blusky.

    I have a feeling those felas have like zero clue, they keey creating tumbler No2, No3, No4, How many Tumblers can we have? when will it stop.

    I am quite happy how Twitter/X has changed for the better

    Amazingly Twitter is actually somewhat tolerable place now, atleast shit thats happening in it now doesnt fly war enough to reach other plaforms.
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  • From Mindsurfer@VERT/FUNTOPIA to Adovka on Thu Jan 15 01:13:00 2026
    Re: Mastodon - wich server to
    By: Adovka to Mindsurfer on Wed Jan 14 2026 16:33:28

    Since Mastadon is a "federation" basically whats happening is that every server has their own rules, and the funny thing, if server you decide to join is "pro-freespeech" then other servers can just block trafic from and to it.

    A ton of bullshit if you ask me, and one helluva waste time and effort. Creators of mastadon actually looked at Twitter, saw a burning dumpster and decided "yeah we are going to copy every aspect of this". Same for blusky.

    I have a feeling those felas have like zero clue, they keey creating tumbler No2, No3, No4, How many Tumblers can we have? when will it stop.

    Well, a network of islands and each island with its own rules. That seems to be mastodon.

    I like X so far. It is the most "free" platform as far as the local laws allow. But sure, things could change and it is completely centralised.

    What i have as a backup would be nostr (using amethyst as a client). Not sure how far censorship resistance goes there. I think on the relay level, there could be a similar level of censorship. But you can't be really banned, as you could connect to an infinite number of relays with your client. Each existing relay would have to filter your messages to censor you globally.

    Usually the network with the most users "wins".

    Mindsurfer

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Adovka on Wed Jan 14 19:15:56 2026
    Re: Mastodon - wich server to
    By: Adovka to Mindsurfer on Wed Jan 14 2026 04:33 pm


    Since Mastadon is a "federation" basically whats happening is that
    every server has their own rules, and the funny thing, if server
    you decide to join is "pro-freespeech" then other servers can just
    block trafic from and to it.

    A ton of bullshit if you ask me, and one helluva waste time and
    effort. Creators of mastadon actually looked at Twitter, saw a
    burning dumpster and decided "yeah we are going to copy every aspect
    of this". Same for blusky.


    so after the liberals and bots left twitter they created a new echo chamber. ---
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  • From Adovka@VERT/ANETO to Mindsurfer on Thu Jan 15 07:07:49 2026
    Re: Mastodon - wich server to
    By: Mindsurfer to Adovka on Thu Jan 15 2026 01:13 am

    I like X so far. It is the most "free" platform as far as the local laws allow. But sure, things could change and it is completely centralised.

    True, so much censorship happens nowadays that i start to look at stuff like i2p cuz soon i might have to use that, otherwise "8 years in jail for R-slur" or smth like that might happen.

    Twitter under Elon is holding its place as a rather free-speech platform, not your common *Chan but still pretty good.

    so after the liberals and bots left twitter they created a new echo chamber.

    Yes, basically. I empathize with "Tumblr-Folk" a little more than any sane person should do, cuz they create good artworks from time to time, but after 2018 they become rather Tumblr-Gypsies, getting themself into every platform and forcing everyone to fit their "moral high-ground". It was good when they were contained on Tumblr, it was not good when they moved to Twitter, that was, if i remember correctly, typical milenial platform like instagramm before Tumbler-Gypsies came, and now since Twitter is now unsatisfactory place for the worst of that folk, they start to move to other platforms yet again.

    In a good universe, those people would be still contained in Tumblr, doing what they want without annoying others.

    or mayhaps its imature for me to think in that logic.
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Adovka on Thu Jan 15 08:15:44 2026
    Adovka wrote to Mindsurfer <=-

    Am i right, that each server can have its own set of rules and that you could be canceled by your server admin if they think you promote what they understand as hatespeech etc?

    Since Mastadon is a "federation" basically whats happening is that
    every server has their own rules, and the funny thing, if server you decide to join is "pro-freespeech" then other servers can just block trafic from and to it.

    True, but you can also find a local server that serves an interest and
    find local people to talk and share with.

    I'm on tilde.zone, a mastodon server that caters to tilde users (tildes
    are single-box online communities that offer some combination of shell
    access, email, news, local BBSes, html, gopher and gemini space, and
    more...)





    A ton of bullshit if you ask me, and one helluva waste time and effort. Creators of mastadon actually looked at Twitter, saw a burning dumpster and decided "yeah we are going to copy every aspect of this". Same for blusky.

    I have a feeling those felas have like zero clue, they keey creating tumbler No2, No3, No4, How many Tumblers can we have? when will it
    stop.

    I am quite happy how Twitter/X has changed for the better

    Amazingly Twitter is actually somewhat tolerable place now, atleast
    shit thats happening in it now doesnt fly war enough to reach other plaforms. ---
    Synchronet Aneto

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Adovka on Thu Jan 15 08:15:44 2026
    Adovka wrote to Mindsurfer <=-

    Twitter under Elon is holding its place as a rather free-speech
    platform, not your common *Chan but still pretty good.

    How does anyone know how the algorithm is bending perception of
    people's posts?

    I want a social network that shows a chronological list of posts from
    people I choose to follow. Is that so hard?




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