• HVYRAIN: Excessive Rainfall Discussion

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    FOUS30 KWBC 200805
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    405 AM EDT Sat Sep 20 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Sat Sep 20 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 21 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE MIDWEST, THE SOUTHERN PLAINS, OZARKS, AND THE CENTRAL=20
    APPALACHIANS...

    ...Wisconsin and northern Illinois...

    A negatively-tilted upper trough will lift slowly across the mid to
    upper Mississippi Valley today. The associated ascent interacting
    with a ribbon of relatively deeper moisture (PWs 1.25-1.5 inches)=20
    along a modest low level jet will support showers and storms=20
    redeveloping this afternoon, which may potentially continue into=20
    the evening. With differences in the details, the CAMs generally=20
    indicate two areas of locally heavier amounts -- a north-south axis
    associated with storms lifting across eastern Wisconsin during the afternoon/evening and a west-east stripe produced by storms=20
    developing across Iowa and then training across northern Illinois=20
    later during the overnight. HREF neighborhood probabilities=20
    indicate localized amounts in excess of 2 inches are possible in=20
    these areas.

    ...Ozarks to southwestern Oklahoma....

    CAMs indicate that ongoing convection firing north of a stationary
    front over southern Kansas will continue through the late morning,
    potentially producing heavy amounts as they train further east=20
    into the Ozark Region. The HREF shows high neighborhood=20
    probabilities for accumulations over 2 inches centered over this=20
    region.=20

    Then, as upstream energy sliding southeast across the central=20
    Plains interacts with deepening moisture that will be supported by
    increasing southerly low level flow, some guidance indicate that=20
    storms will redevelop over this same area later today. However,=20
    other models show storms developing further to the west before=20
    moving back into areas impacted by this morning's storms.=20

    While there is fair amount of uncertainty on how these storms=20
    across central into eastern Oklahoma will evolve, there is greater=20
    model consensus that storms developing over the Texas Panhandle and
    western Oklahoma by this evening will merge across southwestern=20
    Oklahoma to produce locally heavy amounts across the region during
    the overnight.=20

    ...West Virginia...

    CAMs continue to show isolated heavy amounts associated with slow-
    moving storms that are expected to develop over eastern West=20
    Virginia this afternoon. A weak impulse lifting northeast out of=20
    the Ohio Valley, interacting with pooling moisture along a slowing
    front, will support storm development. HREF neighborhood=20
    probabilities indicate that amounts of 2-3 inches are likely within
    the highlighted area.

    Pereira

    Day 2 Valid 12Z Sun Sep 21 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE CENTRAL PLAINS, MID MISSISSIPPI VALLEY, AND THE SOUTHWEST...

    ...Eastern Kansas and northeastern Oklahoma to southern Illinois...

    Deepening moisture (PWs above 1.5 inches) along an axis of
    strengthening southerly to southwesterly flow ahead an amplifying
    upper trough will fuel showers and storms, possibly producing=20
    heavy amounts. While models differ significantly on the details,=20
    the general consensus indicates widespread precipitation is likely,
    with locally heavy amounts of 1-2 inches possible.

    ...Southwest...

    An upper low dropping to the south along the California coast will
    slow as it becomes cutoff west of Southern California. Southerly=20
    flow ahead of the system will support increasing moisture and the
    chances for precipitation across parts of Southern California and=20
    Arizona. Both the GFS and ECMWF show PW anomalies increasing to 2.5
    to 3 standard deviations above normal across far Southern=20
    California through the lower Colorado Basin into Arizona.=20

    Pereira

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE SOUTHWEST AND FROM KANSAS AND OKLAHOMA TO THE OHIO VALLEY...

    ...Kansas and Oklahoma to the Ohio Valley...

    Unsettled weather will continue, with the footprint for potentially
    heavy rain expanding as energy moving through the base of a broad
    upper trough interacts with deep moisture that will be supported=20
    persistent southwesterly flow. While models generally agree on a=20
    large footprint of moderate to heavy amounts, they lack agreement=20
    on the details. At least locally heavy amounts are expected,=20
    especially within the western portions of the highlighted area as=20
    a well-defined shortwave dives southeast and is expected to=20
    interact with a pool of deepening moisture along a strong=20
    southwesterly low level jet. Given the indication of 2-3 inches in
    some of the models, which is forecast to fall in addition to the=20
    previous days' amounts, an upgrade to a Slight Risk may be=20
    forthcoming if the signal persists and the guidance moves into=20
    better agreement.

    ...Southwest...

    An upper low is forecast to remain cutoff and drift slowly east=20
    along the Southern California coast. Anomalous moisture in place=20
    across Arizona is expected to spread east into parts of New Mexico,
    extending the chances for showers and storms, with potentially=20
    heavy amounts into the region.

    Pereira


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8pQe_tdoCfnj7adGK831Q_zOMCD5YW0IWloZQV_8pvYM= PtkZSKzaW4kxYXGO2_QGvpZTQ_3u6HWv2H6-15xunQxUopQ$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8pQe_tdoCfnj7adGK831Q_zOMCD5YW0IWloZQV_8pvYM= PtkZSKzaW4kxYXGO2_QGvpZTQ_3u6HWv2H6-15xuKZRskZg$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8pQe_tdoCfnj7adGK831Q_zOMCD5YW0IWloZQV_8pvYM= PtkZSKzaW4kxYXGO2_QGvpZTQ_3u6HWv2H6-15xuyZmrDMg$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sat Sep 20 08:22:08 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 200821
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    421 AM EDT Sat Sep 20 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Sat Sep 20 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 21 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE MIDWEST, THE SOUTHERN PLAINS, OZARKS, AND THE CENTRAL
    APPALACHIANS...

    ...Wisconsin and northern Illinois...

    A negatively-tilted upper trough will lift slowly across the mid to
    upper Mississippi Valley today. The associated ascent interacting
    with a ribbon of relatively deeper moisture (PWs 1.25-1.5 inches)
    along a modest low level jet will support showers and storms
    redeveloping this afternoon, which may potentially continue into
    the evening. With differences in the details, the CAMs generally
    indicate two areas of locally heavier amounts -- a north-south axis
    associated with storms lifting across eastern Wisconsin during the afternoon/evening and a west-east stripe produced by storms
    developing across Iowa and then training across northern Illinois
    later during the overnight. HREF neighborhood probabilities
    indicate localized amounts in excess of 2 inches are possible in
    these areas.

    ...Ozarks to southwestern Oklahoma....

    CAMs indicate that ongoing convection firing north of a stationary
    front over southern Kansas will continue through the late morning,
    potentially producing heavy amounts as they train further east
    into the Ozark Region. The HREF shows high neighborhood
    probabilities for accumulations over 2 inches centered over this
    region.

    Then, as upstream energy sliding southeast across the central
    Plains interacts with deepening moisture that will be supported by
    increasing southerly low level flow, some guidance indicate that
    storms will redevelop over this same area later today. However,
    other models show storms developing further to the west before
    moving back into areas impacted by this morning's storms.

    While there is fair amount of uncertainty on how these storms
    across central into eastern Oklahoma will evolve, there is greater
    model consensus that storms developing over the Texas Panhandle and
    western Oklahoma by this evening will merge across southwestern
    Oklahoma to produce locally heavy amounts across the region during
    the overnight.

    ...West Virginia...

    CAMs continue to show isolated heavy amounts associated with slow-
    moving storms that are expected to develop over eastern West
    Virginia this afternoon. A weak impulse lifting northeast out of
    the Ohio Valley, interacting with pooling moisture along a slowing
    front, will support storm development. HREF neighborhood
    probabilities indicate that amounts of 2-3 inches are likely within
    the highlighted area.

    Pereira


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE CENTRAL PLAINS, MID MISSISSIPPI VALLEY, AND THE SOUTHWEST...

    ...Eastern Kansas and northeastern Oklahoma to southern Illinois...

    Deepening moisture (PWs above 1.5 inches) along an axis of
    strengthening southerly to southwesterly flow ahead an amplifying
    upper trough will fuel showers and storms, possibly producing
    heavy amounts. While models differ significantly on the details,
    the general consensus indicates widespread precipitation is likely,
    with locally heavy amounts of 1-2 inches possible.

    ...Southwest...

    An upper low dropping to the south along the California coast will
    slow as it becomes cutoff west of Southern California. Southerly
    flow ahead of the system will support increasing moisture and the
    chances for precipitation across parts of Southern California and
    Arizona. Both the GFS and ECMWF show PW anomalies increasing to 2.5
    to 3 standard deviations above normal across far Southern
    California through the lower Colorado Basin into Arizona.

    Pereira


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE SOUTHWEST AND FROM KANSAS AND OKLAHOMA TO THE OHIO VALLEY...

    ...Kansas and Oklahoma to the Ohio Valley...

    Unsettled weather will continue, with the footprint for potentially
    heavy rain expanding as energy moving through the base of a broad
    upper trough interacts with deep moisture that will be supported
    persistent southwesterly flow. While models generally agree on a
    large footprint of moderate to heavy amounts, they lack agreement
    on the details. At least locally heavy amounts are expected,
    especially within the western portions of the highlighted area as
    a well-defined shortwave dives southeast and is expected to
    interact with a pool of deepening moisture along a strong
    southwesterly low level jet. Given the indication of 2-3 inches in
    some of the models, which is forecast to fall in addition to the
    previous days' amounts, an upgrade to a Slight Risk may be
    forthcoming if the signal persists and the guidance moves into
    better agreement.

    ...Southwest...

    An upper low is forecast to remain cutoff and drift slowly east
    along the Southern California coast. Anomalous moisture in place
    across Arizona is expected to spread east into parts of New Mexico,
    extending the chances for showers and storms, with potentially
    heavy amounts into the region.

    Pereira


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8eaviJ_qpft5dZopaMAa1QvUnsZIfTVnJuRpu4zupRPu= uOBqIIfwQJvRBxF6h-0ozvDI5QdJ46NvX6T3IgyQsKm7ydk$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8eaviJ_qpft5dZopaMAa1QvUnsZIfTVnJuRpu4zupRPu= uOBqIIfwQJvRBxF6h-0ozvDI5QdJ46NvX6T3IgyQz6ZFUhk$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8eaviJ_qpft5dZopaMAa1QvUnsZIfTVnJuRpu4zupRPu= uOBqIIfwQJvRBxF6h-0ozvDI5QdJ46NvX6T3IgyQ-sD-HIA$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sat Sep 20 15:57:43 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 201557
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1157 AM EDT Sat Sep 20 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sat Sep 20 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 21 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE MIDWEST, THE SOUTHERN PLAINS AND OZARKS, AND THE CENTRAL=20 APPALACHIANS...

    ...16Z Update...

    Overall, the 3 inherited Marginal Risk areas were only tweaked a
    little bit each.=20

    ...Southern Plains and Ozarks...

    An ongoing area of convection near the Moksarok continues to be a
    Marginal flooding threat as the storms either linger or reform over
    this same area later this afternoon. Most of the Moksarok has seen
    about 1-2 inches of rain areally, but with locally higher amounts.
    Thus, soils in this small region have become saturated enough that
    additional rainfall from stronger storms later this afternoon could
    cause isolated instances of flash flooding. Meanwhile, further
    southwest, a secondary area of convection that is more aligned with
    the core of the low level jet, will likely form very late tonight
    across the Texas Panhandle, southwest Oklahoma and far north
    Texas. These storms will pose an isolated overnight flash flooding
    risk, and should be entirely separate from the storms ongoing near
    the Moksarok. Since they will both be along the same boundary, the
    Marginal remains in place across central Oklahoma, though it
    appears likely the I-44 corridor from the Oklahoma City metro=20
    through the Tulsa metro will see less in the way of total rainfall.

    ...Midwest...

    The inherited Marginal Risk across Wisconsin and Illinois was
    expanded just a bit to include the Green Bay, Milwaukee, and
    Chicagoland regions with this update. A slow moving occluded front
    attached to a low currently along the ND/MN border will push
    eastward towards the western shores of Lake Michigan this
    afternoon. Scattered showers and thunderstorms are likely to sweep
    across the metros this afternoon and evening as a result, which
    could themselves pose an urban and small stream flooding threat.
    Behind the line, however, guidance suggests there could be
    additional rainfall, most likely in the form of just showers, but
    that will train over some of these same areas. Since guidance has
    shifted a bit to the east with the greatest instability and
    moisture advection this afternoon to along the Lake Michigan
    shoreline, the urban I-94 & I-43 corridors were added to the
    Marginal, which now generally spans from I-90/I-39 east to the=20
    lakeshore.

    ...Central Appalachians...

    The inherited Marginal Risk across portions of West Virginia was
    nudged north just a bit in keeping with the latest guidance.
    Generally areas east of the Appalachians should not be under much
    flooding threat, as the heaviest rainfall remains in the portion of
    eastern West Virginia from the southern tip of Maryland's western
    Panhandle south to the Highland County, VA's northernmost point.
    Guidance has been very consistent highlighting this area for the
    most rainfall. Given the ongoing moderate to severe drought
    conditions, it's likely there will be storms that may have embedded
    heavy rain cores outside of the Marginal Risk area, but it will
    take the persistence of heavy rain highlighted in this region in
    the guidance to result in isolated instances of flash flooding.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Wisconsin and northern Illinois...

    A negatively-tilted upper trough will lift slowly across the mid to
    upper Mississippi Valley today. The associated ascent interacting
    with a ribbon of relatively deeper moisture (PWs 1.25-1.5 inches)
    along a modest low level jet will support showers and storms
    redeveloping this afternoon, which may potentially continue into
    the evening. With differences in the details, the CAMs generally
    indicate two areas of locally heavier amounts -- a north-south axis
    associated with storms lifting across eastern Wisconsin during the afternoon/evening and a west-east stripe produced by storms
    developing across Iowa and then training across northern Illinois
    later during the overnight. HREF neighborhood probabilities
    indicate localized amounts in excess of 2 inches are possible in
    these areas.

    ...Ozarks to southwestern Oklahoma....

    CAMs indicate that ongoing convection firing north of a stationary
    front over southern Kansas will continue through the late morning,
    potentially producing heavy amounts as they train further east
    into the Ozark Region. The HREF shows high neighborhood
    probabilities for accumulations over 2 inches centered over this
    region.

    Then, as upstream energy sliding southeast across the central
    Plains interacts with deepening moisture that will be supported by
    increasing southerly low level flow, some guidance indicate that
    storms will redevelop over this same area later today. However,
    other models show storms developing further to the west before
    moving back into areas impacted by this morning's storms.

    While there is fair amount of uncertainty on how these storms
    across central into eastern Oklahoma will evolve, there is greater
    model consensus that storms developing over the Texas Panhandle and
    western Oklahoma by this evening will merge across southwestern
    Oklahoma to produce locally heavy amounts across the region during
    the overnight.

    ...West Virginia...

    CAMs continue to show isolated heavy amounts associated with slow-
    moving storms that are expected to develop over eastern West
    Virginia this afternoon. A weak impulse lifting northeast out of
    the Ohio Valley, interacting with pooling moisture along a slowing
    front, will support storm development. HREF neighborhood
    probabilities indicate that amounts of 2-3 inches are likely within
    the highlighted area.

    Pereira


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Sep 21 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE CENTRAL PLAINS, MID MISSISSIPPI VALLEY, AND THE SOUTHWEST...

    ...Eastern Kansas and northeastern Oklahoma to southern Illinois...

    Deepening moisture (PWs above 1.5 inches) along an axis of
    strengthening southerly to southwesterly flow ahead an amplifying
    upper trough will fuel showers and storms, possibly producing
    heavy amounts. While models differ significantly on the details,
    the general consensus indicates widespread precipitation is likely,
    with locally heavy amounts of 1-2 inches possible.

    ...Southwest...

    An upper low dropping to the south along the California coast will
    slow as it becomes cutoff west of Southern California. Southerly
    flow ahead of the system will support increasing moisture and the
    chances for precipitation across parts of Southern California and
    Arizona. Both the GFS and ECMWF show PW anomalies increasing to 2.5
    to 3 standard deviations above normal across far Southern
    California through the lower Colorado Basin into Arizona.

    Pereira


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE SOUTHWEST AND FROM KANSAS AND OKLAHOMA TO THE OHIO VALLEY...

    ...Kansas and Oklahoma to the Ohio Valley...

    Unsettled weather will continue, with the footprint for potentially
    heavy rain expanding as energy moving through the base of a broad
    upper trough interacts with deep moisture that will be supported
    persistent southwesterly flow. While models generally agree on a
    large footprint of moderate to heavy amounts, they lack agreement
    on the details. At least locally heavy amounts are expected,
    especially within the western portions of the highlighted area as
    a well-defined shortwave dives southeast and is expected to
    interact with a pool of deepening moisture along a strong
    southwesterly low level jet. Given the indication of 2-3 inches in
    some of the models, which is forecast to fall in addition to the
    previous days' amounts, an upgrade to a Slight Risk may be
    forthcoming if the signal persists and the guidance moves into
    better agreement.

    ...Southwest...

    An upper low is forecast to remain cutoff and drift slowly east
    along the Southern California coast. Anomalous moisture in place
    across Arizona is expected to spread east into parts of New Mexico,
    extending the chances for showers and storms, with potentially
    heavy amounts into the region.

    Pereira


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4vorv7wPyzXg_TocNka6JuSEQZ0wkXx5Y4krahy1mdsO= ywtRd3H2PXjh4-Szwa30XMiQiWMhZ7SGqi52-TRdv12RGKw$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4vorv7wPyzXg_TocNka6JuSEQZ0wkXx5Y4krahy1mdsO= ywtRd3H2PXjh4-Szwa30XMiQiWMhZ7SGqi52-TRdBqbSoDk$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4vorv7wPyzXg_TocNka6JuSEQZ0wkXx5Y4krahy1mdsO= ywtRd3H2PXjh4-Szwa30XMiQiWMhZ7SGqi52-TRd9MJxIWo$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sat Sep 20 18:54:40 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 201854
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    254 PM EDT Sat Sep 20 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sat Sep 20 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 21 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE MIDWEST, THE SOUTHERN PLAINS AND OZARKS, AND THE CENTRAL
    APPALACHIANS...

    ...16Z Update...

    Overall, the 3 inherited Marginal Risk areas were only tweaked a
    little bit each.

    ...Southern Plains and Ozarks...

    An ongoing area of convection near the Moksarok continues to be a
    Marginal flooding threat as the storms either linger or reform over
    this same area later this afternoon. Most of the Moksarok has seen
    about 1-2 inches of rain areally, but with locally higher amounts.
    Thus, soils in this small region have become saturated enough that
    additional rainfall from stronger storms later this afternoon could
    cause isolated instances of flash flooding. Meanwhile, further
    southwest, a secondary area of convection that is more aligned with
    the core of the low level jet, will likely form very late tonight
    across the Texas Panhandle, southwest Oklahoma and far north
    Texas. These storms will pose an isolated overnight flash flooding
    risk, and should be entirely separate from the storms ongoing near
    the Moksarok. Since they will both be along the same boundary, the
    Marginal remains in place across central Oklahoma, though it
    appears likely the I-44 corridor from the Oklahoma City metro
    through the Tulsa metro will see less in the way of total rainfall.

    ...Midwest...

    The inherited Marginal Risk across Wisconsin and Illinois was
    expanded just a bit to include the Green Bay, Milwaukee, and
    Chicagoland regions with this update. A slow moving occluded front
    attached to a low currently along the ND/MN border will push
    eastward towards the western shores of Lake Michigan this
    afternoon. Scattered showers and thunderstorms are likely to sweep
    across the metros this afternoon and evening as a result, which
    could themselves pose an urban and small stream flooding threat.
    Behind the line, however, guidance suggests there could be
    additional rainfall, most likely in the form of just showers, but
    that will train over some of these same areas. Since guidance has
    shifted a bit to the east with the greatest instability and
    moisture advection this afternoon to along the Lake Michigan
    shoreline, the urban I-94 & I-43 corridors were added to the
    Marginal, which now generally spans from I-90/I-39 east to the
    lakeshore.

    ...Central Appalachians...

    The inherited Marginal Risk across portions of West Virginia was
    nudged north just a bit in keeping with the latest guidance.
    Generally areas east of the Appalachians should not be under much
    flooding threat, as the heaviest rainfall remains in the portion of
    eastern West Virginia from the southern tip of Maryland's western
    Panhandle south to the Highland County, VA's northernmost point.
    Guidance has been very consistent highlighting this area for the
    most rainfall. Given the ongoing moderate to severe drought
    conditions, it's likely there will be storms that may have embedded
    heavy rain cores outside of the Marginal Risk area, but it will
    take the persistence of heavy rain highlighted in this region in
    the guidance to result in isolated instances of flash flooding.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Wisconsin and northern Illinois...

    A negatively-tilted upper trough will lift slowly across the mid to
    upper Mississippi Valley today. The associated ascent interacting
    with a ribbon of relatively deeper moisture (PWs 1.25-1.5 inches)
    along a modest low level jet will support showers and storms
    redeveloping this afternoon, which may potentially continue into
    the evening. With differences in the details, the CAMs generally
    indicate two areas of locally heavier amounts -- a north-south axis
    associated with storms lifting across eastern Wisconsin during the afternoon/evening and a west-east stripe produced by storms
    developing across Iowa and then training across northern Illinois
    later during the overnight. HREF neighborhood probabilities
    indicate localized amounts in excess of 2 inches are possible in
    these areas.

    ...Ozarks to southwestern Oklahoma....

    CAMs indicate that ongoing convection firing north of a stationary
    front over southern Kansas will continue through the late morning,
    potentially producing heavy amounts as they train further east
    into the Ozark Region. The HREF shows high neighborhood
    probabilities for accumulations over 2 inches centered over this
    region.

    Then, as upstream energy sliding southeast across the central
    Plains interacts with deepening moisture that will be supported by
    increasing southerly low level flow, some guidance indicate that
    storms will redevelop over this same area later today. However,
    other models show storms developing further to the west before
    moving back into areas impacted by this morning's storms.

    While there is fair amount of uncertainty on how these storms
    across central into eastern Oklahoma will evolve, there is greater
    model consensus that storms developing over the Texas Panhandle and
    western Oklahoma by this evening will merge across southwestern
    Oklahoma to produce locally heavy amounts across the region during
    the overnight.

    ...West Virginia...

    CAMs continue to show isolated heavy amounts associated with slow-
    moving storms that are expected to develop over eastern West
    Virginia this afternoon. A weak impulse lifting northeast out of
    the Ohio Valley, interacting with pooling moisture along a slowing
    front, will support storm development. HREF neighborhood
    probabilities indicate that amounts of 2-3 inches are likely within
    the highlighted area.

    Pereira


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Sep 21 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE CENTRAL PLAINS, MID MISSISSIPPI VALLEY, AND THE SOUTHWEST...

    ...19Z Update...

    ...Plains to Mid-Mississippi Valley...

    Overall across the middle of the country, the signal for heavy rain
    on Sunday remains quite diffuse. There will be a corridor where
    heavier rain will be more likely, which includes the Marginal Risk
    region from Oklahoma through Illinois. However, the guidance is in
    otherwise poor agreement on where any clusters of storms will
    develop and how much rain they will produce. Thus, taking
    antecedent dry soil conditions into account across nearly all of
    the Marginal Risk area, it remains a rather low-end Marginal.

    ...Southwest...

    Very few changes needed across the Southwest as monsoonal moisture
    in place across much of Arizona and portions of the California
    Deserts may allow for some limited shower and thunderstorm
    development. A positively tilted longwave trough approaching the
    area from the northwest will increase the large scale forcing in
    the area, which should allow for some "slopover" of any storms into
    the normally drier desert areas. Couple that with the western
    portion of the area (far southern California and far western
    Arizona) having recently picked up locally flooding rains, the
    Marginal Risk remains in place largely unchanged. As usual, burn
    scar areas will be particularly susceptible to renewed flooding
    should heavy rains occur over or near them.=20

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Eastern Kansas and northeastern Oklahoma to southern Illinois...

    Deepening moisture (PWs above 1.5 inches) along an axis of
    strengthening southerly to southwesterly flow ahead an amplifying
    upper trough will fuel showers and storms, possibly producing
    heavy amounts. While models differ significantly on the details,
    the general consensus indicates widespread precipitation is likely,
    with locally heavy amounts of 1-2 inches possible.

    ...Southwest...

    An upper low dropping to the south along the California coast will
    slow as it becomes cutoff west of Southern California. Southerly
    flow ahead of the system will support increasing moisture and the
    chances for precipitation across parts of Southern California and
    Arizona. Both the GFS and ECMWF show PW anomalies increasing to 2.5
    to 3 standard deviations above normal across far Southern
    California through the lower Colorado Basin into Arizona.

    Pereira


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE SOUTHWEST AND FROM KANSAS AND OKLAHOMA TO THE OHIO VALLEY...

    ...19Z Update...

    ...Kansas/Oklahoma to the Ohio Valley...

    A plume of moisture streaming off the Gulf will collide with a
    stalled frontal boundary from Kansas through the Ohio Valley on
    Monday. Expect multiple clusters of storms riding up that boundary
    from southwest to northeast to douse the region with periodically
    heavy rain. The details of where any such clusters of storms are
    likely to form remain highly uncertain. Thus, while the signal for
    heavy rain across the region is significantly higher than the Day
    2/Sunday period, there remains little agreement on where and
    whether any persistent heavy rain will significantly impact any
    areas hit with heavy rain on previous days. Thus, once again taking
    into account antecedent conditions, which only get drier the
    further north and east you go, the large Marginal Risk area across
    the area remains valid.

    ...Southwest...

    Very little has changed in the forecast with another day of
    afternoon showers and storms likely to impact much of eastern
    Arizona into portions of western New Mexico Monday afternoon. With
    ridging aloft and therefore no larger scale areas of forcing, the
    storms will likely be tied to topography, such as the Mogollon Rim,
    limiting the flash flood threat to isolated instances.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Kansas and Oklahoma to the Ohio Valley...

    Unsettled weather will continue, with the footprint for potentially
    heavy rain expanding as energy moving through the base of a broad
    upper trough interacts with deep moisture that will be supported
    persistent southwesterly flow. While models generally agree on a
    large footprint of moderate to heavy amounts, they lack agreement
    on the details. At least locally heavy amounts are expected,
    especially within the western portions of the highlighted area as
    a well-defined shortwave dives southeast and is expected to
    interact with a pool of deepening moisture along a strong
    southwesterly low level jet. Given the indication of 2-3 inches in
    some of the models, which is forecast to fall in addition to the
    previous days' amounts, an upgrade to a Slight Risk may be
    forthcoming if the signal persists and the guidance moves into
    better agreement.

    ...Southwest...

    An upper low is forecast to remain cutoff and drift slowly east
    along the Southern California coast. Anomalous moisture in place
    across Arizona is expected to spread east into parts of New Mexico,
    extending the chances for showers and storms, with potentially
    heavy amounts into the region.

    Pereira


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8OmcS63tFkaYvO5D2NPueyTVMjGpuy5Lzno_TkdNXzMG= uX1pGhJ5EK6BcWVUGJ7_QRKo9BLSbRvR8Mbowv1kGLrKVHg$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8OmcS63tFkaYvO5D2NPueyTVMjGpuy5Lzno_TkdNXzMG= uX1pGhJ5EK6BcWVUGJ7_QRKo9BLSbRvR8Mbowv1khYOuuUU$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8OmcS63tFkaYvO5D2NPueyTVMjGpuy5Lzno_TkdNXzMG= uX1pGhJ5EK6BcWVUGJ7_QRKo9BLSbRvR8Mbowv1klEZji-Y$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 210039
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    839 PM EDT Sat Sep 20 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Sun Sep 21 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 21 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE SOUTHERN PLAINS, OZARKS, & CENTRAL APPALACHIANS...

    ...Southern Plains and Ozarks...
    A festering area of convection across OK & near the MO/AR border continues
    to be sufficient for a Marginal flooding threat. Earlier rainfall
    should have partially saturated soils, and with the topography
    across some locales, at least isolated instances of flash flooding
    are anticipated. A later complex will likely form very late=20
    tonight near the Red River of the South. These storms should also=20
    pose an isolated overnight flash flooding risk. Regionally, there
    is a pool of 1000-3500 J/kg of MU CAPE to feed thunderstorms and
    about 25 kts of effective bulk shear which should lead to
    organization at times. With precipitable water values ~1.5", hourly
    amounts to 2" with local amounts to 4" should be possible.


    ...Central Appalachians...
    Ongoing pulse convection should continue for several more hours=20
    near the Virginia/West Virginia border before MU CAPE fades and/or=20
    CIN wins out. Precipitable water values above 1.25" along with MU=20
    CAPE of up to 1000 J/kg are feeding them currently. Until they=20
    dissipate, hourly amounts to 2" are possible as they move slowly=20
    near the rough topography, continuing the Marginal Risk of=20
    excessive rainfall.

    Roth


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Sep 21 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE CENTRAL PLAINS, MID MISSISSIPPI VALLEY, AND THE SOUTHWEST...

    ...19Z Update...

    ...Plains to Mid-Mississippi Valley...

    Overall across the middle of the country, the signal for heavy rain
    on Sunday remains quite diffuse. There will be a corridor where
    heavier rain will be more likely, which includes the Marginal Risk
    region from Oklahoma through Illinois. However, the guidance is in
    otherwise poor agreement on where any clusters of storms will
    develop and how much rain they will produce. Thus, taking
    antecedent dry soil conditions into account across nearly all of
    the Marginal Risk area, it remains a rather low-end Marginal.

    ...Southwest...

    Very few changes needed across the Southwest as monsoonal moisture
    in place across much of Arizona and portions of the California
    Deserts may allow for some limited shower and thunderstorm
    development. A positively tilted longwave trough approaching the
    area from the northwest will increase the large scale forcing in
    the area, which should allow for some "slopover" of any storms into
    the normally drier desert areas. Couple that with the western
    portion of the area (far southern California and far western
    Arizona) having recently picked up locally flooding rains, the
    Marginal Risk remains in place largely unchanged. As usual, burn
    scar areas will be particularly susceptible to renewed flooding
    should heavy rains occur over or near them.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Eastern Kansas and northeastern Oklahoma to southern Illinois...

    Deepening moisture (PWs above 1.5 inches) along an axis of
    strengthening southerly to southwesterly flow ahead an amplifying
    upper trough will fuel showers and storms, possibly producing
    heavy amounts. While models differ significantly on the details,
    the general consensus indicates widespread precipitation is likely,
    with locally heavy amounts of 1-2 inches possible.

    ...Southwest...

    An upper low dropping to the south along the California coast will
    slow as it becomes cutoff west of Southern California. Southerly
    flow ahead of the system will support increasing moisture and the
    chances for precipitation across parts of Southern California and
    Arizona. Both the GFS and ECMWF show PW anomalies increasing to 2.5
    to 3 standard deviations above normal across far Southern
    California through the lower Colorado Basin into Arizona.

    Pereira


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE SOUTHWEST AND FROM KANSAS AND OKLAHOMA TO THE OHIO VALLEY...

    ...19Z Update...

    ...Kansas/Oklahoma to the Ohio Valley...

    A plume of moisture streaming off the Gulf will collide with a
    stalled frontal boundary from Kansas through the Ohio Valley on
    Monday. Expect multiple clusters of storms riding up that boundary
    from southwest to northeast to douse the region with periodically
    heavy rain. The details of where any such clusters of storms are
    likely to form remain highly uncertain. Thus, while the signal for
    heavy rain across the region is significantly higher than the Day
    2/Sunday period, there remains little agreement on where and
    whether any persistent heavy rain will significantly impact any
    areas hit with heavy rain on previous days. Thus, once again taking
    into account antecedent conditions, which only get drier the
    further north and east you go, the large Marginal Risk area across
    the area remains valid.

    ...Southwest...

    Very little has changed in the forecast with another day of
    afternoon showers and storms likely to impact much of eastern
    Arizona into portions of western New Mexico Monday afternoon. With
    ridging aloft and therefore no larger scale areas of forcing, the
    storms will likely be tied to topography, such as the Mogollon Rim,
    limiting the flash flood threat to isolated instances.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Kansas and Oklahoma to the Ohio Valley...

    Unsettled weather will continue, with the footprint for potentially
    heavy rain expanding as energy moving through the base of a broad
    upper trough interacts with deep moisture that will be supported
    persistent southwesterly flow. While models generally agree on a
    large footprint of moderate to heavy amounts, they lack agreement
    on the details. At least locally heavy amounts are expected,
    especially within the western portions of the highlighted area as
    a well-defined shortwave dives southeast and is expected to
    interact with a pool of deepening moisture along a strong
    southwesterly low level jet. Given the indication of 2-3 inches in
    some of the models, which is forecast to fall in addition to the
    previous days' amounts, an upgrade to a Slight Risk may be
    forthcoming if the signal persists and the guidance moves into
    better agreement.

    ...Southwest...

    An upper low is forecast to remain cutoff and drift slowly east
    along the Southern California coast. Anomalous moisture in place
    across Arizona is expected to spread east into parts of New Mexico,
    extending the chances for showers and storms, with potentially
    heavy amounts into the region.

    Pereira


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5dYUTd9YHCCo5BqlE_nbMUgURPa5l2yb1Rem_wl9VvKb= FhcyE-LhEl4C9yiWyMCBZUNQFvF60fl3YI89yJAdkURTWtk$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5dYUTd9YHCCo5BqlE_nbMUgURPa5l2yb1Rem_wl9VvKb= FhcyE-LhEl4C9yiWyMCBZUNQFvF60fl3YI89yJAdOOsCxlw$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5dYUTd9YHCCo5BqlE_nbMUgURPa5l2yb1Rem_wl9VvKb= FhcyE-LhEl4C9yiWyMCBZUNQFvF60fl3YI89yJAd8G0duIM$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 210821
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    421 AM EDT Sun Sep 21 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Sun Sep 21 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL IN THE VICINITY OF
    THE KANSAS/OKLAHOMA/ARKANSAS/MISSOURI BORDER AREA...

    ...Central-Southern Plains into the Mid Mississippi Valley...
    Additional shortwave energy will be diving east southeastward=20
    through the base of the mean trof centered through the Central to=20
    Southern Plains into the Middle Mississippi Valley. These height=20
    falls will help strengthen the low level west south west to=20
    southwesterly flow into a west to east northeasterly oriented low=20
    level boundary stretching from the Southern Plains into the Middle
    Mississippi Valley. This will support another round of convection=20
    pushing east from central to eastern KS/OK into much of MO,=20
    northwest AR and central to Southern IL. A slight risk area was=20
    added in the vicinity of the KS/OK/AR/MO border area that has seen=20
    heavy rains over the past 24 hours and may see additional heavy=20
    totals later in the upcoming day 1 period. Otherwise, there were no
    significant changes made to the previous marginal risk area, that=20
    continues to fit well with the latest axis of high HREF=20
    neighborhood probabilities for 1 and 2"+ amounts during the=20
    upcoming day 1 period. Across these areas, relative soil moistures=20
    remain very low, which should help mitigate runoff issues, at least
    initially.

    ...Southern California into Arizona...
    The closed low initially off the Central California coast will be
    drifting only slowly southward day 1 to a position off the=20
    Southern California coast. A jet streak on the eastern side of this
    upper trof will keep favorable right entrance region jet dynamics=20
    over Southern CA into Arizona. This will help accentuate lift in=20
    an axis of anomalous PW values, 1 to 3+ standard deviations above=20
    the mean that are expected to persist across these areas day 1.=20
    This should support potential for additional widespread scattered=20 convection, locally heavy rains and isolated runoff issues.

    Oravec

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM THE=20=20
    CENTRAL TO SOUTHERN PLAINS, MIDDLE TO LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND=20
    OHIO VALLEY AND ACROSS ARIZONA INTO WESTERN NEW MEXICO...

    ...Mid to Lower Mississippi Valley into the Ohio Valley...
    The height falls pushing east southeastward day 1 into the Central
    to Southern Plains and toward the Mid Mississippi Valley will=20
    continue to move eastward through the Ohio Valley day 2. Well=20
    defined large scale lift in an axis of above average PW values, 1=20
    to 1.5+ standard deviations above the mean, will support the=20
    likelihood of widespread moderate to heavy precipitation in an=20
    axis from northern AR, far southeast MO, far southeast IL, western=20
    to central KY, much of IN and OH. At the moment the convection=20
    across these areas may be fairly progressive. This and very low=20
    relative soil moistures, much of the area in moderate to severe=20
    drought, will keep the risk level at marginal for the time being.=20
    With respect to changes to the previous issuance, the northern edge
    of the marginal risk was trimmed to the south by about 50-75 miles
    to account for the latest model consensus.

    ...Central to Southern Plains...
    The marginal risk area from the previous issuance was expanded=20
    slightly westward into western KS to cover the model spread with
    the next round of convection forming ahead of the upstream
    amplifying height falls dropping southeastward late=20
    day 1 from the Northern Rockies into the Central Rockies/Lee of the
    Central Rockies on day 2. The GFS and NAM begin to diverge day 2=20
    with the track of this closing off mid to upper level center, with=20
    the NAM taking a more southeastward track into the Central Plains,=20
    while the GFS takes a more south southeastward track into the=20
    Central Rockies. The NAM solution, at the moment, is an outlier=20
    with the EC, UKMET and CMC more in line with the GFS. The
    differing mid to upper evolutions have more of a qpf impact over
    south central WY into north central CO, where the more southeast
    NAM solution is much lighter than the remainder of the guidance. Do
    not believe there will be any runoff issues farther northwest
    across CO/WY given lack of instability. While models differ farther
    to the southeast, there are still non NAM solutions that have
    potentially heavy rains as far northwest as northwest KS day 2,
    supporting the west northwest expansion from the previous=20
    issuance.

    ...Southwest...
    The closed low off the Southern CA coast day 1 is expected to move
    little on day 2. The right entrance region of the jet streak to=20
    the east of this closed low will push eastward from its day 1=20
    position, but continue to support uvvs enhancement in the above=20
    average PW axis, 1 to 3 standard deviations above the mean, that=20
    will remain in place across Southern CA into the Southwest.=20
    Additional scattered convection across these areas will support=20
    localized heavy amounts and isolated runoff issues. The previous=20
    marginal risk area was expanded westward into southeast CA to cover
    the model qpf spread.

    Oravec

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025 - 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHERN
    MISSOURI, NORTHERN ARKANSAS, NORTHEAST OKLAHOMA AND SOUTHEAST=20
    KANSAS...

    There continues to be model differences in the evolution of the mid
    to upper level trof over the Central to Southern Plains toward the
    Mid Mississippi Valley. The NAM continues to be an outlier in being
    more amplified and faster to push the height falls downstream.
    Despite the differences, models do show re-strengthening of the low
    level southwesterly flow ahead of surface low pressure moving east
    across Oklahoma into Arkansas. This will support potential for
    organized convection, that likely forms late day 2 to the north of
    this low across the Central Plains, continuing day 3 from southeast KS/northeast OK, across Southern MO and northern AR. Model
    consensus is for the heaviest totals across these areas with
    amounts of 2-4" possible. This heavy axis will possibly overlap
    where heavy rains have fallen over the past 24 hours and where=20
    additional heavy rains are possible during the day 1 period. There=20
    were no major changes to the slight risk area from the previous=20
    issuance. The marginal risk was extended farther westward into=20
    northeast CO where several models show heavy rain potential day 3.=20
    The eastern portion of the marginal risk was also extended into the
    Upper OH Valley to cover the model qpf spread.=20

    ...Southern to Central California...
    The nearly stationary closed low off the Southern CA coast day 2=20
    will begin to slowly move back to the north on day 3 toward the=20
    Central CA coast. This slow north movement will also allow for a=20
    northward expansion of the anomalous PW values over Southern CA=20
    into Central CA, with values as high as 3-4 standard deviations=20
    above the mean. There are differences with qpf distributions given
    differences with the northward push of the closed low. Not a lot=20
    of confidence in any solution at this range, but continued=20
    potential for locally heavy rains and isolated runoff issues,=20
    especially over any burn scars. No changes made at the moment to=20
    the previous broad marginal risk area over Southern to Central CA.

    Oravec

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7a4XPBhPnupSTC6VH9finfNizRCPOtguJLc-5B9snVhV= H-SLLw0oUkaakzVj543lA06WtwL9oqC0dV7Ztx1t16xGtgU$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7a4XPBhPnupSTC6VH9finfNizRCPOtguJLc-5B9snVhV= H-SLLw0oUkaakzVj543lA06WtwL9oqC0dV7Ztx1tR_grx6s$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7a4XPBhPnupSTC6VH9finfNizRCPOtguJLc-5B9snVhV= H-SLLw0oUkaakzVj543lA06WtwL9oqC0dV7Ztx1twaZjM2Y$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sun Sep 21 16:00:20 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 211600
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1200 PM EDT Sun Sep 21 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sun Sep 21 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL IN THE VICINITY OF
    THE KANSAS/OKLAHOMA/ARKANSAS/MISSOURI BORDER AREA...

    ...16Z Update...

    ...Central/Southern Plains to the Mid-Mississippi Valley...

    The inherited Slight Risk for portions of the
    Missouri/Kansas/Oklahoma/Arkansas region has been expanded=20
    southward across much of far eastern Oklahoma with this update. 12Z
    guidance has some agreement that once the area of showers and=20
    storms moving along the OK/TX border moves through eastern Oklahoma
    and into Arkansas later this afternoon, a renewed area of=20
    convection forms along a trailing boundary somewhere in eastern=20
    Oklahoma. While the agreement on where that trailing boundary will=20
    set up is poor, there is far better agreement that it may result in
    multiple hours of trailing thunderstorms in a narrow corridor=20
    aligned northwest to southeast. Perhaps with some persistence bias=20
    given the events of last night where narrow corridors of 4-6 inches
    of rain fell further north, resulting in localized flash flooding,
    confidence has increased for such an event to occur again a bit=20
    further south tonight. While rainfall amounts are expected to be
    lesser in this area tonight, any additional rainfall on top of
    areas hard hit tonight could cause renewed stream, creek, and river
    rises, so the Slight Risk in that area is maintained.

    Further north into Missouri, there is less confidence due to lesser instability. While the potential for training is high, how strong
    those storms get and how long they persist and where those most
    persistent bands set up across Missouri and into Illinois is of low
    certainty. Thus, for now the Marginal is maintained, but the Slight
    may need to be expanded on short-notice should the storms show the
    ability to produce heavy rains for an extended period of time.

    ...Southwest...

    Few changes were needed, as the forecast described below in the
    previous discussion remains valid.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Central-Southern Plains into the Mid Mississippi Valley...
    Additional shortwave energy will be diving east southeastward
    through the base of the mean trof centered through the Central to
    Southern Plains into the Middle Mississippi Valley. These height
    falls will help strengthen the low level west south west to
    southwesterly flow into a west to east northeasterly oriented low
    level boundary stretching from the Southern Plains into the Middle
    Mississippi Valley. This will support another round of convection
    pushing east from central to eastern KS/OK into much of MO,
    northwest AR and central to Southern IL. A slight risk area was
    added in the vicinity of the KS/OK/AR/MO border area that has seen
    heavy rains over the past 24 hours and may see additional heavy
    totals later in the upcoming day 1 period. Otherwise, there were no
    significant changes made to the previous marginal risk area, that
    continues to fit well with the latest axis of high HREF
    neighborhood probabilities for 1 and 2"+ amounts during the
    upcoming day 1 period. Across these areas, relative soil moistures
    remain very low, which should help mitigate runoff issues, at least
    initially.

    ...Southern California into Arizona...
    The closed low initially off the Central California coast will be
    drifting only slowly southward day 1 to a position off the
    Southern California coast. A jet streak on the eastern side of this
    upper trof will keep favorable right entrance region jet dynamics
    over Southern CA into Arizona. This will help accentuate lift in
    an axis of anomalous PW values, 1 to 3+ standard deviations above
    the mean that are expected to persist across these areas day 1.
    This should support potential for additional widespread scattered
    convection, locally heavy rains and isolated runoff issues.

    Oravec

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM THE
    CENTRAL TO SOUTHERN PLAINS, MIDDLE TO LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND
    OHIO VALLEY AND ACROSS ARIZONA INTO WESTERN NEW MEXICO...

    ...Mid to Lower Mississippi Valley into the Ohio Valley...
    The height falls pushing east southeastward day 1 into the Central
    to Southern Plains and toward the Mid Mississippi Valley will
    continue to move eastward through the Ohio Valley day 2. Well
    defined large scale lift in an axis of above average PW values, 1
    to 1.5+ standard deviations above the mean, will support the
    likelihood of widespread moderate to heavy precipitation in an
    axis from northern AR, far southeast MO, far southeast IL, western
    to central KY, much of IN and OH. At the moment the convection
    across these areas may be fairly progressive. This and very low
    relative soil moistures, much of the area in moderate to severe
    drought, will keep the risk level at marginal for the time being.
    With respect to changes to the previous issuance, the northern edge
    of the marginal risk was trimmed to the south by about 50-75 miles
    to account for the latest model consensus.

    ...Central to Southern Plains...
    The marginal risk area from the previous issuance was expanded
    slightly westward into western KS to cover the model spread with
    the next round of convection forming ahead of the upstream
    amplifying height falls dropping southeastward late
    day 1 from the Northern Rockies into the Central Rockies/Lee of the
    Central Rockies on day 2. The GFS and NAM begin to diverge day 2
    with the track of this closing off mid to upper level center, with
    the NAM taking a more southeastward track into the Central Plains,
    while the GFS takes a more south southeastward track into the
    Central Rockies. The NAM solution, at the moment, is an outlier
    with the EC, UKMET and CMC more in line with the GFS. The
    differing mid to upper evolutions have more of a qpf impact over
    south central WY into north central CO, where the more southeast
    NAM solution is much lighter than the remainder of the guidance. Do
    not believe there will be any runoff issues farther northwest
    across CO/WY given lack of instability. While models differ farther
    to the southeast, there are still non NAM solutions that have
    potentially heavy rains as far northwest as northwest KS day 2,
    supporting the west northwest expansion from the previous
    issuance.

    ...Southwest...
    The closed low off the Southern CA coast day 1 is expected to move
    little on day 2. The right entrance region of the jet streak to
    the east of this closed low will push eastward from its day 1
    position, but continue to support uvvs enhancement in the above
    average PW axis, 1 to 3 standard deviations above the mean, that
    will remain in place across Southern CA into the Southwest.
    Additional scattered convection across these areas will support
    localized heavy amounts and isolated runoff issues. The previous
    marginal risk area was expanded westward into southeast CA to cover
    the model qpf spread.

    Oravec

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025 - 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHERN
    MISSOURI, NORTHERN ARKANSAS, NORTHEAST OKLAHOMA AND SOUTHEAST
    KANSAS...

    There continues to be model differences in the evolution of the mid
    to upper level trof over the Central to Southern Plains toward the
    Mid Mississippi Valley. The NAM continues to be an outlier in being
    more amplified and faster to push the height falls downstream.
    Despite the differences, models do show re-strengthening of the low
    level southwesterly flow ahead of surface low pressure moving east
    across Oklahoma into Arkansas. This will support potential for
    organized convection, that likely forms late day 2 to the north of
    this low across the Central Plains, continuing day 3 from southeast KS/northeast OK, across Southern MO and northern AR. Model
    consensus is for the heaviest totals across these areas with
    amounts of 2-4" possible. This heavy axis will possibly overlap
    where heavy rains have fallen over the past 24 hours and where
    additional heavy rains are possible during the day 1 period. There
    were no major changes to the slight risk area from the previous
    issuance. The marginal risk was extended farther westward into
    northeast CO where several models show heavy rain potential day 3.
    The eastern portion of the marginal risk was also extended into the
    Upper OH Valley to cover the model qpf spread.

    ...Southern to Central California...
    The nearly stationary closed low off the Southern CA coast day 2
    will begin to slowly move back to the north on day 3 toward the
    Central CA coast. This slow north movement will also allow for a
    northward expansion of the anomalous PW values over Southern CA
    into Central CA, with values as high as 3-4 standard deviations
    above the mean. There are differences with qpf distributions given
    differences with the northward push of the closed low. Not a lot
    of confidence in any solution at this range, but continued
    potential for locally heavy rains and isolated runoff issues,
    especially over any burn scars. No changes made at the moment to
    the previous broad marginal risk area over Southern to Central CA.

    Oravec

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_5UsLwW_eu2rF1FjfyQGvaVBr7V1tf5So_rFXDDMpaTc= 15dP6e8YyZhEE0di6PiYzab1SUeMVl1joYCWdRVc9WYLsF0$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_5UsLwW_eu2rF1FjfyQGvaVBr7V1tf5So_rFXDDMpaTc= 15dP6e8YyZhEE0di6PiYzab1SUeMVl1joYCWdRVcDESC76U$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_5UsLwW_eu2rF1FjfyQGvaVBr7V1tf5So_rFXDDMpaTc= 15dP6e8YyZhEE0di6PiYzab1SUeMVl1joYCWdRVcfEaLhrY$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 211902
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    302 PM EDT Sun Sep 21 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sun Sep 21 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL IN THE VICINITY OF
    THE KANSAS/OKLAHOMA/ARKANSAS/MISSOURI BORDER AREA...

    ...16Z Update...

    ...Central/Southern Plains to the Mid-Mississippi Valley...

    The inherited Slight Risk for portions of the
    Missouri/Kansas/Oklahoma/Arkansas region has been expanded
    southward across much of far eastern Oklahoma with this update. 12Z
    guidance has some agreement that once the area of showers and
    storms moving along the OK/TX border moves through eastern Oklahoma
    and into Arkansas later this afternoon, a renewed area of
    convection forms along a trailing boundary somewhere in eastern
    Oklahoma. While the agreement on where that trailing boundary will
    set up is poor, there is far better agreement that it may result in
    multiple hours of trailing thunderstorms in a narrow corridor
    aligned northwest to southeast. Perhaps with some persistence bias
    given the events of last night where narrow corridors of 4-6 inches
    of rain fell further north, resulting in localized flash flooding,
    confidence has increased for such an event to occur again a bit
    further south tonight. While rainfall amounts are expected to be
    lesser in this area tonight, any additional rainfall on top of
    areas hard hit tonight could cause renewed stream, creek, and river
    rises, so the Slight Risk in that area is maintained.

    Further north into Missouri, there is less confidence due to lesser instability. While the potential for training is high, how strong
    those storms get and how long they persist and where those most
    persistent bands set up across Missouri and into Illinois is of low
    certainty. Thus, for now the Marginal is maintained, but the Slight
    may need to be expanded on short-notice should the storms show the
    ability to produce heavy rains for an extended period of time.

    ...Southwest...

    Few changes were needed, as the forecast described below in the
    previous discussion remains valid.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Central-Southern Plains into the Mid Mississippi Valley...
    Additional shortwave energy will be diving east southeastward
    through the base of the mean trof centered through the Central to
    Southern Plains into the Middle Mississippi Valley. These height
    falls will help strengthen the low level west south west to
    southwesterly flow into a west to east northeasterly oriented low
    level boundary stretching from the Southern Plains into the Middle
    Mississippi Valley. This will support another round of convection
    pushing east from central to eastern KS/OK into much of MO,
    northwest AR and central to Southern IL. A slight risk area was
    added in the vicinity of the KS/OK/AR/MO border area that has seen
    heavy rains over the past 24 hours and may see additional heavy
    totals later in the upcoming day 1 period. Otherwise, there were no
    significant changes made to the previous marginal risk area, that
    continues to fit well with the latest axis of high HREF
    neighborhood probabilities for 1 and 2"+ amounts during the
    upcoming day 1 period. Across these areas, relative soil moistures
    remain very low, which should help mitigate runoff issues, at least
    initially.

    ...Southern California into Arizona...
    The closed low initially off the Central California coast will be
    drifting only slowly southward day 1 to a position off the
    Southern California coast. A jet streak on the eastern side of this
    upper trof will keep favorable right entrance region jet dynamics
    over Southern CA into Arizona. This will help accentuate lift in
    an axis of anomalous PW values, 1 to 3+ standard deviations above
    the mean that are expected to persist across these areas day 1.
    This should support potential for additional widespread scattered
    convection, locally heavy rains and isolated runoff issues.

    Oravec

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM THE
    CENTRAL TO SOUTHERN PLAINS, MIDDLE TO LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND
    OHIO VALLEY AND ACROSS ARIZONA INTO WESTERN NEW MEXICO...

    19z Update: There may be an opportunity to add in a Slight risk or
    two on future updates, by for now we will maintain the broad
    Marginal risk from portions of the Plains into the OH and TN=20
    Valley. The 12z high res guidance indicates one area of heavier
    rainfall (upwards of 2-4") across portions of central KY and TN.
    Considered a targeted Slight risk here, but this is a notable QPF
    uptick from the previous cycle, and would prefer to wait for
    another cycle to see if the signal remains consistent. On top of=20
    that, FFG is quite high over this area, and so even with the=20
    increased QPF signal the HREF probabilities of exceeding 3hr FFG=20
    remain low.

    Another area to watch is western to central KS into northern OK where
    a convective complex is expected Monday night into early Tuesday.=20
    At least some training appears probable, but the extent remains a=20
    bit uncertain. Thus the Marginal risk should suffice for now.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Mid to Lower Mississippi Valley into the Ohio Valley...
    The height falls pushing east southeastward day 1 into the Central
    to Southern Plains and toward the Mid Mississippi Valley will
    continue to move eastward through the Ohio Valley day 2. Well
    defined large scale lift in an axis of above average PW values, 1
    to 1.5+ standard deviations above the mean, will support the
    likelihood of widespread moderate to heavy precipitation in an
    axis from northern AR, far southeast MO, far southeast IL, western
    to central KY, much of IN and OH. At the moment the convection
    across these areas may be fairly progressive. This and very low
    relative soil moistures, much of the area in moderate to severe
    drought, will keep the risk level at marginal for the time being.
    With respect to changes to the previous issuance, the northern edge
    of the marginal risk was trimmed to the south by about 50-75 miles
    to account for the latest model consensus.

    ...Central to Southern Plains...
    The marginal risk area from the previous issuance was expanded
    slightly westward into western KS to cover the model spread with
    the next round of convection forming ahead of the upstream
    amplifying height falls dropping southeastward late
    day 1 from the Northern Rockies into the Central Rockies/Lee of the
    Central Rockies on day 2. The GFS and NAM begin to diverge day 2
    with the track of this closing off mid to upper level center, with
    the NAM taking a more southeastward track into the Central Plains,
    while the GFS takes a more south southeastward track into the
    Central Rockies. The NAM solution, at the moment, is an outlier
    with the EC, UKMET and CMC more in line with the GFS. The
    differing mid to upper evolutions have more of a qpf impact over
    south central WY into north central CO, where the more southeast
    NAM solution is much lighter than the remainder of the guidance. Do
    not believe there will be any runoff issues farther northwest
    across CO/WY given lack of instability. While models differ farther
    to the southeast, there are still non NAM solutions that have
    potentially heavy rains as far northwest as northwest KS day 2,
    supporting the west northwest expansion from the previous
    issuance.

    ...Southwest...
    The closed low off the Southern CA coast day 1 is expected to move
    little on day 2. The right entrance region of the jet streak to
    the east of this closed low will push eastward from its day 1
    position, but continue to support uvvs enhancement in the above
    average PW axis, 1 to 3 standard deviations above the mean, that
    will remain in place across Southern CA into the Southwest.
    Additional scattered convection across these areas will support
    localized heavy amounts and isolated runoff issues. The previous
    marginal risk area was expanded westward into southeast CA to cover
    the model qpf spread.

    Oravec

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025 - 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHERN
    MISSOURI, NORTHERN ARKANSAS, NORTHEAST OKLAHOMA AND SOUTHEAST
    KANSAS...

    19z Update: On Tuesday an uptick in the flash flood risk is=20
    expected across portions of eastern OK, southeast KS, southern MO=20
    and northern AR. Mid level shortwave energy, favorable upper jet
    dynamics and strong low level moisture transport all support an
    organized convective risk. Model instability forecasts are
    sufficient for deep convection capable of heavy rainfall rates,=20
    and PWs of at least 1-2 SD above average are expected. The current=20
    model consensus is for the max rainfall axis to stretch from west=20
    to east near the AR/MO border. This axis also saw heavy rainfall=20
    last night, and could very well see additional areas of heavier=20
    rain through Monday. When considering these antecedent conditions,
    an upgrade to a MDT risk may be needed on future updates across=20
    portions of the area. However, we are still pretty far out, and=20
    there remains some latitudinal spread with the heaviest rainfall=20
    axis. This event will soon move into the range of more of the high=20
    res models, at which point we will likely see some fine tuning and=20
    adjusting of the rainfall axis and magnitudes. Thus we will hold=20
    off on any upgrade, and still consider this a higher end Slight=20
    risk area. Either way would expect at least scattered instances of
    flash flooding Tuesday, some of which could be locally considerable.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    There continues to be model differences in the evolution of the mid
    to upper level trof over the Central to Southern Plains toward the
    Mid Mississippi Valley. The NAM continues to be an outlier in being
    more amplified and faster to push the height falls downstream.
    Despite the differences, models do show re-strengthening of the low
    level southwesterly flow ahead of surface low pressure moving east
    across Oklahoma into Arkansas. This will support potential for
    organized convection, that likely forms late day 2 to the north of
    this low across the Central Plains, continuing day 3 from southeast KS/northeast OK, across Southern MO and northern AR. Model
    consensus is for the heaviest totals across these areas with
    amounts of 2-4" possible. This heavy axis will possibly overlap
    where heavy rains have fallen over the past 24 hours and where
    additional heavy rains are possible during the day 1 period. There
    were no major changes to the slight risk area from the previous
    issuance. The marginal risk was extended farther westward into
    northeast CO where several models show heavy rain potential day 3.
    The eastern portion of the marginal risk was also extended into the
    Upper OH Valley to cover the model qpf spread.

    ...Southern to Central California...
    The nearly stationary closed low off the Southern CA coast day 2
    will begin to slowly move back to the north on day 3 toward the
    Central CA coast. This slow north movement will also allow for a
    northward expansion of the anomalous PW values over Southern CA
    into Central CA, with values as high as 3-4 standard deviations
    above the mean. There are differences with qpf distributions given
    differences with the northward push of the closed low. Not a lot
    of confidence in any solution at this range, but continued
    potential for locally heavy rains and isolated runoff issues,
    especially over any burn scars. No changes made at the moment to
    the previous broad marginal risk area over Southern to Central CA.

    Oravec

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!53vZvBQjfeVOLpokbfnH09UBUnsiIhQycEtcm6bf2K9U= MBmjS7vMUF4hwmskHlj62euYqyxNkTTRnlXgtWTWxmlIigg$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!53vZvBQjfeVOLpokbfnH09UBUnsiIhQycEtcm6bf2K9U= MBmjS7vMUF4hwmskHlj62euYqyxNkTTRnlXgtWTWvkAhyQ4$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!53vZvBQjfeVOLpokbfnH09UBUnsiIhQycEtcm6bf2K9U= MBmjS7vMUF4hwmskHlj62euYqyxNkTTRnlXgtWTWVyGByEs$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Mon Sep 22 00:46:47 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 220046
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    846 PM EDT Sun Sep 21 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Mon Sep 22 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL IN AND NEAR
    NORTHWEST ARKANSAS...

    ...Central-Southern Plains into the Mid Mississippi Valley...
    While an initial shortwave is moving towards the MO/AR/OK border
    junction currently, another shortwave is upstream across eastern
    KS. Fairly unidirectional flow out of the west-southwest will exist
    ahead of the KS shortwave. Along with 25-35 kts of effective bulk
    shear and a broad area of 500-1500 J/kg of MU CAPE will support=20
    continued convection from southeast OK through northwest AR into
    southern MO. Adding to the flash flood sensitivity is heavy=20
    rainfall which occurred across portions of northeast OK, northwest=20
    AR, and southwest MO over the past 24 hours. A Slight Risk area=20
    remains across portions of this region, which were advised by
    continuity, radar reflectivity trends, the 18z HREF, and the 12z=20
    REFS guidance.


    ...Southern California into Arizona...
    An upper level trough across central CA will keep favorable right=20
    entrance region jet dynamics over Southern CA into Arizona. While
    ongoing convection has been mainly constrained to southeast AZ,
    some of the mesoscale guidance suggests renewed activity across
    portions of western and central AZ as the upper level trough
    interacts with lingering 500-3000 J/kg of MU CAPE, with more than=20
    sufficient effective bulk shear available to organize convection.=20
    As moisture remains above average here as well, locally heavy rains
    and isolated runoff issues are expected intermittently through=20
    12z.


    ...Southern Minnesota...
    Convection under the base of an upper level low moving across
    central MN is expected to persist overnight within an environment
    of 1.25"+ precipitable water values and 1000-2000 J/kg of MU CAPE,
    with plentiful effective bulk shear to potentially enhance=20
    convective organization. Given the moisture values, believe any
    heavy rain-related issues would be isolated. Added a Marginal Risk
    into this area per the ingredients listed above and the 12z=20
    REFS/18z HREF probabilities of 2"+ through 12z. Hourly amounts to
    1.5" with local totals to 3" are possible where cells manage to
    train and/or merge.

    Roth


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM THE
    CENTRAL TO SOUTHERN PLAINS, MIDDLE TO LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND
    OHIO VALLEY AND ACROSS ARIZONA INTO WESTERN NEW MEXICO...

    19z Update: There may be an opportunity to add in a Slight risk or
    two on future updates, by for now we will maintain the broad
    Marginal risk from portions of the Plains into the OH and TN
    Valley. The 12z high res guidance indicates one area of heavier
    rainfall (upwards of 2-4") across portions of central KY and TN.
    Considered a targeted Slight risk here, but this is a notable QPF
    uptick from the previous cycle, and would prefer to wait for
    another cycle to see if the signal remains consistent. On top of
    that, FFG is quite high over this area, and so even with the
    increased QPF signal the HREF probabilities of exceeding 3hr FFG
    remain low.

    Another area to watch is western to central KS into northern OK where
    a convective complex is expected Monday night into early Tuesday.
    At least some training appears probable, but the extent remains a
    bit uncertain. Thus the Marginal risk should suffice for now.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Mid to Lower Mississippi Valley into the Ohio Valley...
    The height falls pushing east southeastward day 1 into the Central
    to Southern Plains and toward the Mid Mississippi Valley will
    continue to move eastward through the Ohio Valley day 2. Well
    defined large scale lift in an axis of above average PW values, 1
    to 1.5+ standard deviations above the mean, will support the
    likelihood of widespread moderate to heavy precipitation in an
    axis from northern AR, far southeast MO, far southeast IL, western
    to central KY, much of IN and OH. At the moment the convection
    across these areas may be fairly progressive. This and very low
    relative soil moistures, much of the area in moderate to severe
    drought, will keep the risk level at marginal for the time being.
    With respect to changes to the previous issuance, the northern edge
    of the marginal risk was trimmed to the south by about 50-75 miles
    to account for the latest model consensus.

    ...Central to Southern Plains...
    The marginal risk area from the previous issuance was expanded
    slightly westward into western KS to cover the model spread with
    the next round of convection forming ahead of the upstream
    amplifying height falls dropping southeastward late
    day 1 from the Northern Rockies into the Central Rockies/Lee of the
    Central Rockies on day 2. The GFS and NAM begin to diverge day 2
    with the track of this closing off mid to upper level center, with
    the NAM taking a more southeastward track into the Central Plains,
    while the GFS takes a more south southeastward track into the
    Central Rockies. The NAM solution, at the moment, is an outlier
    with the EC, UKMET and CMC more in line with the GFS. The
    differing mid to upper evolutions have more of a qpf impact over
    south central WY into north central CO, where the more southeast
    NAM solution is much lighter than the remainder of the guidance. Do
    not believe there will be any runoff issues farther northwest
    across CO/WY given lack of instability. While models differ farther
    to the southeast, there are still non NAM solutions that have
    potentially heavy rains as far northwest as northwest KS day 2,
    supporting the west northwest expansion from the previous
    issuance.

    ...Southwest...
    The closed low off the Southern CA coast day 1 is expected to move
    little on day 2. The right entrance region of the jet streak to
    the east of this closed low will push eastward from its day 1
    position, but continue to support uvvs enhancement in the above
    average PW axis, 1 to 3 standard deviations above the mean, that
    will remain in place across Southern CA into the Southwest.
    Additional scattered convection across these areas will support
    localized heavy amounts and isolated runoff issues. The previous
    marginal risk area was expanded westward into southeast CA to cover
    the model qpf spread.

    Oravec

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025 - 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHERN
    MISSOURI, NORTHERN ARKANSAS, NORTHEAST OKLAHOMA AND SOUTHEAST
    KANSAS...

    19z Update: On Tuesday an uptick in the flash flood risk is
    expected across portions of eastern OK, southeast KS, southern MO
    and northern AR. Mid level shortwave energy, favorable upper jet
    dynamics and strong low level moisture transport all support an
    organized convective risk. Model instability forecasts are
    sufficient for deep convection capable of heavy rainfall rates,
    and PWs of at least 1-2 SD above average are expected. The current
    model consensus is for the max rainfall axis to stretch from west
    to east near the AR/MO border. This axis also saw heavy rainfall
    last night, and could very well see additional areas of heavier
    rain through Monday. When considering these antecedent conditions,
    an upgrade to a MDT risk may be needed on future updates across
    portions of the area. However, we are still pretty far out, and
    there remains some latitudinal spread with the heaviest rainfall
    axis. This event will soon move into the range of more of the high
    res models, at which point we will likely see some fine tuning and
    adjusting of the rainfall axis and magnitudes. Thus we will hold
    off on any upgrade, and still consider this a higher end Slight
    risk area. Either way would expect at least scattered instances of
    flash flooding Tuesday, some of which could be locally considerable.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    There continues to be model differences in the evolution of the mid
    to upper level trof over the Central to Southern Plains toward the
    Mid Mississippi Valley. The NAM continues to be an outlier in being
    more amplified and faster to push the height falls downstream.
    Despite the differences, models do show re-strengthening of the low
    level southwesterly flow ahead of surface low pressure moving east
    across Oklahoma into Arkansas. This will support potential for
    organized convection, that likely forms late day 2 to the north of
    this low across the Central Plains, continuing day 3 from southeast KS/northeast OK, across Southern MO and northern AR. Model
    consensus is for the heaviest totals across these areas with
    amounts of 2-4" possible. This heavy axis will possibly overlap
    where heavy rains have fallen over the past 24 hours and where
    additional heavy rains are possible during the day 1 period. There
    were no major changes to the slight risk area from the previous
    issuance. The marginal risk was extended farther westward into
    northeast CO where several models show heavy rain potential day 3.
    The eastern portion of the marginal risk was also extended into the
    Upper OH Valley to cover the model qpf spread.

    ...Southern to Central California...
    The nearly stationary closed low off the Southern CA coast day 2
    will begin to slowly move back to the north on day 3 toward the
    Central CA coast. This slow north movement will also allow for a
    northward expansion of the anomalous PW values over Southern CA
    into Central CA, with values as high as 3-4 standard deviations
    above the mean. There are differences with qpf distributions given
    differences with the northward push of the closed low. Not a lot
    of confidence in any solution at this range, but continued
    potential for locally heavy rains and isolated runoff issues,
    especially over any burn scars. No changes made at the moment to
    the previous broad marginal risk area over Southern to Central CA.

    Oravec

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!89DQGVhHmg8BsgSkY1cstxr58Oofnh1tlb8fZWzWw-CZ= TPjBP-9z2Mh_WmDRg4l9C5ERosBnoUHnVsQ0xzckXP0FuJc$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!89DQGVhHmg8BsgSkY1cstxr58Oofnh1tlb8fZWzWw-CZ= TPjBP-9z2Mh_WmDRg4l9C5ERosBnoUHnVsQ0xzckPdPtY_E$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!89DQGVhHmg8BsgSkY1cstxr58Oofnh1tlb8fZWzWw-CZ= TPjBP-9z2Mh_WmDRg4l9C5ERosBnoUHnVsQ0xzckjhFycl8$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Mon Sep 22 08:21:58 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 220821
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    421 AM EDT Mon Sep 22 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 22 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTH
    CENTRAL KANSAS INTO NORTH CENTRAL OKLAHOMA...

    ...Central to Southern Plains...
    The latest model suite is in better agreement with the evolution=20
    of the amplifying upper trof across the Northern to Central Rockies
    day 1 and the downstream outbreak of organized convection along=20
    and to the north of the path of the associated surface low moving=20
    west to east from the TX Panhandle into western OK. A slight risk=20
    area was added for the potential for organized convection along and
    to the north of this low, across areas of south-central KS into=20 north-central OK where the low level southerly flow will be
    strengthening and the corresponding 850-700 mb moisture flux
    becoming anomalous, upwards to 2 to 3 standard deviations above=20
    the mean by the end of the day 1 period. The neighborhood=20
    probabilities are high in both the HREF and RRFS for 1 and 2"+=20
    amounts across these areas. Additionally, both the HREF and RRFS=20
    show a defined area of probabilities exceeding the 3 hourly FFG=20
    values in the 0000-1200 UTC Tuesday time frame as the potentially=20
    organized convection presses east southeastward.=20

    ...Mid to Lower Mississippi Valley into the Ohio Valley...
    A broad marginal risk area was maintained in association with height
    falls pushing east northeastward from the Mid Mississippi Valley=20
    through the Ohio Valley. Well defined large scale lift in an axis=20
    of above average PW values, 1 to 1.5+ standard deviations above the
    mean, will support the likelihood of widespread moderate to heavy=20 precipitation in an axis from northern AR, far southeast MO, far=20
    southeast IL, western to central KY, much of IN and OH. At the=20
    moment the convection across these areas may be fairly progressive.
    This and very low relative soil moistures, much of the area in=20
    moderate to severe drought, will keep the risk level at marginal=20
    for the time being. While the HREF and RRFS neighborhood=20
    probabilities are fairly high for 1 and 2"+ amounts day 1, the HREF
    and RRFS probabilities for 3 hour rainfall exceeding FFG values=20
    remains very low, reflecting the antecedent very dry conditions.=20

    ...Southwest...
    The closed low off the Southern CA coast is expected to move=20
    little during the upcoming day 1 period. The right entrance region
    of the jet streak to the east of this closed low will push=20
    eastward, but continue to support uvvs enhancement in the above=20
    average PW axis, 1 to 3 standard deviations above the mean, that=20
    will remain in place across Southern CA into the Southwest.=20
    Additional scattered convection across these areas will support=20
    localized heavy amounts and isolated runoff issues. No changes were
    made to the previous marginal risk area.

    Oravec

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025 - 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHERN
    MISSOURI, NORTHERN ARKANSAS, NORTHEAST OKLAHOMA AND SOUTHEAST
    KANSAS...


    The strengthening 850-700 mb moisture flux late day 1 over the
    Southern Plains will remain anomalous day 2 as surface low=20
    pressure continues to push eastward from the Southern Plains toward
    the Lower Mississippi Valley. 850-700 mb moisture flux anomalies=20
    are forecast to remain in the 2 to 3+ standard deviation above the=20
    mean level. This will support the likelihood for the continuation=20
    of the day 1 organized convection over the Southern Plains, pushing
    eastward into the Lower Arkansas Valley and toward the Mid to Lower
    MS Valley. There are differences with the track of the primary
    surface low, resulting in north to south spread with respect to
    where the max precip axis will be. WPC is favoring the more
    southern qpf axes solutions, with the max axis depicted from far
    eastern OK, northern OK/far southern MO into western TN. This is a
    slight southward trend from previous forecasts, reflecting a
    southward trend in qpf guidance. Changes to the previous slight and
    25% areas were to follow the slight southward qpf axis trend,
    pushing them approximately 40-60 miles farther to the south.=20=20

    ...Coastal Central California...=20
    There is good model agreement with the nearly stationary closed=20
    low off the Southern CA coast day 1 beginning to slowly move back=20
    to the north on day 2 toward the Central CA coast. This slow north
    movement will also allow for a northward expansion of the=20
    anomalous PW values over Southern CA into coastal Central CA, with
    values as high as 3-4 standard deviations above the mean. With good
    model agreement on the closed low track day 2, there is also good
    agreement on potential for areal average moderate precip totals,
    with potential for locally heavier amount along the Central CA
    coast. Isolated runoff issues are possible, especially over any=20
    burn scars.=20

    Oravec

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS THE
    TENNESSEE AND OHIO VALLEY REGIONS...

    The mid to upper level trof moving east from the Southern Plains
    day 2 will amplify day 3 as it pushes into the Lower MS Valley.
    Anomalous PW and 850-700 moisture flux values will stretch across a
    large area from the Lower MS Valley, and into the TN & OH Valley,=20
    Central Appalachians and the Mid-Atlantic. Model consensus is for a
    broad region of moderate to heavy precip in this anomalous PW and=20
    850-700 mb moisture flux axis. There is a typical amount of qpf=20
    spread for a day 3 time period. WPC is leaning more toward the=20
    multi model ensemble qpf mean axis/NBM axis to drive our qpf and=20
    excessive rainfall axis. While a large portion of the day 3 QPF and
    ERO axes are currently in moderate to severe drought, there may be
    overlap in qpf areas from day 3 and day 1 over the TN and OH=20
    Valley regions and overlap between the day 2 and day 3 qpf axes=20
    across the Lower MS Valley into the TN Valley, which will likely=20
    increase soil saturations and increase stream flows. The previous=20
    slight risk area was trimmed on the western edge by approximately=20
    75-100 miles across far southeast MO, southern IL and southern IN=20
    to better fit the latest QPF.=20


    ...Central California...
    The slow moving closed low approaching the central CA coast late
    day 2 will continue to push slowly eastward day 3 and push inland
    by early Thursday morning. Similar to the day 2 period, an axis of
    anomalous PW values, 2 to 3 standard deviations above the mean,
    will persist to the east northeast of the closed low across
    Central CA. Scattered convection in this anomalous PW axis will
    support locally heavy rains across Central CA and isolated runoff
    issues, especially across burn scar regions. Only some small
    changes made to the previous marginal risk area, trimming it
    westward across western NV.

    ...Far southeast Arizona into New Mexico...
    No changes of note made to the previous marginal risk area across
    this region. Scattered convection possible, with localized heavy
    rain and isolated runoff issues, especially in burn scar regions.

    Oravec

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5sFWbwUeOsvsKSUj3ywufAO3nYvTJ2sjZINHDiEIQdyA= o0ulud_GO1mRLAqiQWKoJ4cZHDmgs2qGRv1NNDdVnBBDDKE$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5sFWbwUeOsvsKSUj3ywufAO3nYvTJ2sjZINHDiEIQdyA= o0ulud_GO1mRLAqiQWKoJ4cZHDmgs2qGRv1NNDdVrDNVvAU$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5sFWbwUeOsvsKSUj3ywufAO3nYvTJ2sjZINHDiEIQdyA= o0ulud_GO1mRLAqiQWKoJ4cZHDmgs2qGRv1NNDdV_AEo_Gc$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Mon Sep 22 16:00:05 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 221559
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1159 AM EDT Mon Sep 22 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Mon Sep 22 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTH
    CENTRAL KANSAS INTO NORTH CENTRAL OKLAHOMA...

    ...16z update...

    The marginal risk area was expanded into southern Minnesota, where
    a surface boundary, 1500J/Kg+ CAPE, and 1in.+ PWATs could continue
    to produce thunderstorms leading to localized flash flooding
    through early this evening. The marginal risk in the Southwest was
    expanded slightly into southwestern New Mexico to account for=20
    wetter trends in the guidance and antecedent conditions (anomalous=20
    moisture and notable instability).

    Kebede

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Central to Southern Plains...
    The latest model suite is in better agreement with the evolution
    of the amplifying upper trof across the Northern to Central Rockies
    day 1 and the downstream outbreak of organized convection along
    and to the north of the path of the associated surface low moving
    west to east from the TX Panhandle into western OK. A slight risk
    area was added for the potential for organized convection along and
    to the north of this low, across areas of south-central KS into
    north-central OK where the low level southerly flow will be
    strengthening and the corresponding 850-700 mb moisture flux
    becoming anomalous, upwards to 2 to 3 standard deviations above
    the mean by the end of the day 1 period. The neighborhood
    probabilities are high in both the HREF and RRFS for 1 and 2"+
    amounts across these areas. Additionally, both the HREF and RRFS
    show a defined area of probabilities exceeding the 3 hourly FFG
    values in the 0000-1200 UTC Tuesday time frame as the potentially
    organized convection presses east southeastward.

    ...Mid to Lower Mississippi Valley into the Ohio Valley...
    A broad marginal risk area was maintained in association with height
    falls pushing east northeastward from the Mid Mississippi Valley
    through the Ohio Valley. Well defined large scale lift in an axis
    of above average PW values, 1 to 1.5+ standard deviations above the
    mean, will support the likelihood of widespread moderate to heavy
    precipitation in an axis from northern AR, far southeast MO, far
    southeast IL, western to central KY, much of IN and OH. At the
    moment the convection across these areas may be fairly progressive.
    This and very low relative soil moistures, much of the area in
    moderate to severe drought, will keep the risk level at marginal
    for the time being. While the HREF and RRFS neighborhood
    probabilities are fairly high for 1 and 2"+ amounts day 1, the HREF
    and RRFS probabilities for 3 hour rainfall exceeding FFG values
    remains very low, reflecting the antecedent very dry conditions.

    ...Southwest...
    The closed low off the Southern CA coast is expected to move
    little during the upcoming day 1 period. The right entrance region
    of the jet streak to the east of this closed low will push
    eastward, but continue to support uvvs enhancement in the above
    average PW axis, 1 to 3 standard deviations above the mean, that
    will remain in place across Southern CA into the Southwest.
    Additional scattered convection across these areas will support
    localized heavy amounts and isolated runoff issues. No changes were
    made to the previous marginal risk area.

    Oravec

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025 - 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHERN
    MISSOURI, NORTHERN ARKANSAS, NORTHEAST OKLAHOMA AND SOUTHEAST
    KANSAS...


    The strengthening 850-700 mb moisture flux late day 1 over the
    Southern Plains will remain anomalous day 2 as surface low
    pressure continues to push eastward from the Southern Plains toward
    the Lower Mississippi Valley. 850-700 mb moisture flux anomalies
    are forecast to remain in the 2 to 3+ standard deviation above the
    mean level. This will support the likelihood for the continuation
    of the day 1 organized convection over the Southern Plains, pushing
    eastward into the Lower Arkansas Valley and toward the Mid to Lower
    MS Valley. There are differences with the track of the primary
    surface low, resulting in north to south spread with respect to
    where the max precip axis will be. WPC is favoring the more
    southern qpf axes solutions, with the max axis depicted from far
    eastern OK, northern OK/far southern MO into western TN. This is a
    slight southward trend from previous forecasts, reflecting a
    southward trend in qpf guidance. Changes to the previous slight and
    25% areas were to follow the slight southward qpf axis trend,
    pushing them approximately 40-60 miles farther to the south.

    ...Coastal Central California...
    There is good model agreement with the nearly stationary closed
    low off the Southern CA coast day 1 beginning to slowly move back
    to the north on day 2 toward the Central CA coast. This slow north
    movement will also allow for a northward expansion of the
    anomalous PW values over Southern CA into coastal Central CA, with
    values as high as 3-4 standard deviations above the mean. With good
    model agreement on the closed low track day 2, there is also good
    agreement on potential for areal average moderate precip totals,
    with potential for locally heavier amount along the Central CA
    coast. Isolated runoff issues are possible, especially over any
    burn scars.

    Oravec

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS THE
    TENNESSEE AND OHIO VALLEY REGIONS...

    The mid to upper level trof moving east from the Southern Plains
    day 2 will amplify day 3 as it pushes into the Lower MS Valley.
    Anomalous PW and 850-700 moisture flux values will stretch across a
    large area from the Lower MS Valley, and into the TN & OH Valley,
    Central Appalachians and the Mid-Atlantic. Model consensus is for a
    broad region of moderate to heavy precip in this anomalous PW and
    850-700 mb moisture flux axis. There is a typical amount of qpf
    spread for a day 3 time period. WPC is leaning more toward the
    multi model ensemble qpf mean axis/NBM axis to drive our qpf and
    excessive rainfall axis. While a large portion of the day 3 QPF and
    ERO axes are currently in moderate to severe drought, there may be
    overlap in qpf areas from day 3 and day 1 over the TN and OH
    Valley regions and overlap between the day 2 and day 3 qpf axes
    across the Lower MS Valley into the TN Valley, which will likely
    increase soil saturations and increase stream flows. The previous
    slight risk area was trimmed on the western edge by approximately
    75-100 miles across far southeast MO, southern IL and southern IN
    to better fit the latest QPF.


    ...Central California...
    The slow moving closed low approaching the central CA coast late
    day 2 will continue to push slowly eastward day 3 and push inland
    by early Thursday morning. Similar to the day 2 period, an axis of
    anomalous PW values, 2 to 3 standard deviations above the mean,
    will persist to the east northeast of the closed low across
    Central CA. Scattered convection in this anomalous PW axis will
    support locally heavy rains across Central CA and isolated runoff
    issues, especially across burn scar regions. Only some small
    changes made to the previous marginal risk area, trimming it
    westward across western NV.

    ...Far southeast Arizona into New Mexico...
    No changes of note made to the previous marginal risk area across
    this region. Scattered convection possible, with localized heavy
    rain and isolated runoff issues, especially in burn scar regions.

    Oravec

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_5OmZ-_rto3E1zVHtueb8p5dpRdXQfvsFO0GahsHNlCK= dXoOqmZCMtDac-NtjBBW6zWEBYpxCuar9UGOHI2yQdF4ISg$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_5OmZ-_rto3E1zVHtueb8p5dpRdXQfvsFO0GahsHNlCK= dXoOqmZCMtDac-NtjBBW6zWEBYpxCuar9UGOHI2ytdO7o-k$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_5OmZ-_rto3E1zVHtueb8p5dpRdXQfvsFO0GahsHNlCK= dXoOqmZCMtDac-NtjBBW6zWEBYpxCuar9UGOHI2y8bm5CXo$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Mon Sep 22 19:01:09 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 221900
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    300 PM EDT Mon Sep 22 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Mon Sep 22 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTH
    CENTRAL KANSAS INTO NORTH CENTRAL OKLAHOMA...

    ...16z update...

    The marginal risk area was expanded into southern Minnesota, where
    a surface boundary, 1500J/Kg+ CAPE, and 1in.+ PWATs could continue
    to produce thunderstorms leading to localized flash flooding
    through early this evening. The marginal risk in the Southwest was
    expanded slightly into southwestern New Mexico to account for
    wetter trends in the guidance and antecedent conditions (anomalous
    moisture and notable instability).

    Kebede

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Central to Southern Plains...
    The latest model suite is in better agreement with the evolution
    of the amplifying upper trof across the Northern to Central Rockies
    day 1 and the downstream outbreak of organized convection along
    and to the north of the path of the associated surface low moving
    west to east from the TX Panhandle into western OK. A slight risk
    area was added for the potential for organized convection along and
    to the north of this low, across areas of south-central KS into
    north-central OK where the low level southerly flow will be
    strengthening and the corresponding 850-700 mb moisture flux
    becoming anomalous, upwards to 2 to 3 standard deviations above
    the mean by the end of the day 1 period. The neighborhood
    probabilities are high in both the HREF and RRFS for 1 and 2"+
    amounts across these areas. Additionally, both the HREF and RRFS
    show a defined area of probabilities exceeding the 3 hourly FFG
    values in the 0000-1200 UTC Tuesday time frame as the potentially
    organized convection presses east southeastward.

    ...Mid to Lower Mississippi Valley into the Ohio Valley...
    A broad marginal risk area was maintained in association with height
    falls pushing east northeastward from the Mid Mississippi Valley
    through the Ohio Valley. Well defined large scale lift in an axis
    of above average PW values, 1 to 1.5+ standard deviations above the
    mean, will support the likelihood of widespread moderate to heavy
    precipitation in an axis from northern AR, far southeast MO, far
    southeast IL, western to central KY, much of IN and OH. At the
    moment the convection across these areas may be fairly progressive.
    This and very low relative soil moistures, much of the area in
    moderate to severe drought, will keep the risk level at marginal
    for the time being. While the HREF and RRFS neighborhood
    probabilities are fairly high for 1 and 2"+ amounts day 1, the HREF
    and RRFS probabilities for 3 hour rainfall exceeding FFG values
    remains very low, reflecting the antecedent very dry conditions.

    ...Southwest...
    The closed low off the Southern CA coast is expected to move
    little during the upcoming day 1 period. The right entrance region
    of the jet streak to the east of this closed low will push
    eastward, but continue to support uvvs enhancement in the above
    average PW axis, 1 to 3 standard deviations above the mean, that
    will remain in place across Southern CA into the Southwest.
    Additional scattered convection across these areas will support
    localized heavy amounts and isolated runoff issues. No changes were
    made to the previous marginal risk area.

    Oravec

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025 - 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS MISSOURI,=20
    ARKANSAS, EASTERN OKLAHOMA, WESTERN TENNESSEE, WESTERN KENTUCKY,
    SOUTHERN ILLINOIS, NORTHWESTERN MISSISSIPPI AND SOUTHEAST=20
    KANSAS...

    ...2030z update...

    The marginal risk area over central/southern California was removed
    from the Bay area based on drier trends in the qpf.=20

    The risk areas over the Central U.S. were expanded based on high=20
    12z HREF exceedence probabilities (2+ inches) across the Middle=20
    Mississippi Valley. Anomalous moisture and instability along a=20
    strong surface front should promote heavy rainfall. There's=20
    uncertainty on where exactly the axis of maximum rainfall will=20
    develop, due to the global and hires models' difficulty resolving=20
    potential phasing over the Central U.S. on Tuesday.

    Kebede

    The strengthening 850-700 mb moisture flux late day 1 over the
    Southern Plains will remain anomalous day 2 as surface low
    pressure continues to push eastward from the Southern Plains toward
    the Lower Mississippi Valley. 850-700 mb moisture flux anomalies
    are forecast to remain in the 2 to 3+ standard deviation above the
    mean level. This will support the likelihood for the continuation
    of the day 1 organized convection over the Southern Plains, pushing
    eastward into the Lower Arkansas Valley and toward the Mid to Lower
    MS Valley. There are differences with the track of the primary
    surface low, resulting in north to south spread with respect to
    where the max precip axis will be. WPC is favoring the more
    southern qpf axes solutions, with the max axis depicted from far
    eastern OK, northern OK/far southern MO into western TN. This is a
    slight southward trend from previous forecasts, reflecting a
    southward trend in qpf guidance. Changes to the previous slight and
    25% areas were to follow the slight southward qpf axis trend,
    pushing them approximately 40-60 miles farther to the south.

    ...Coastal Central California...
    There is good model agreement with the nearly stationary closed
    low off the Southern CA coast day 1 beginning to slowly move back
    to the north on day 2 toward the Central CA coast. This slow north
    movement will also allow for a northward expansion of the
    anomalous PW values over Southern CA into coastal Central CA, with
    values as high as 3-4 standard deviations above the mean. With good
    model agreement on the closed low track day 2, there is also good
    agreement on potential for areal average moderate precip totals,
    with potential for locally heavier amount along the Central CA
    coast. Isolated runoff issues are possible, especially over any
    burn scars.

    Oravec

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS THE
    TENNESSEE AND OHIO VALLEY REGIONS...

    ...2030z update...

    The marginal risk area over central/southern California was removed
    from the Bay area due to recent drier qpf trends. The Marginal=20
    risk area over the Southwest was confined to southern New Mexico,=20
    where the tail end of the Tennessee/Ohio Valley front may produce=20
    localized instances of flash flooding early on Wednesday.

    The slight and marginal risk areas over the Ohio/Tennessee Valleys
    were expanded to account for antecedent rainfall from today's
    storms. There isn't enough of a qpf signal to overcome the severe
    to extreme drought across the region so an ERO upgrade did not
    occur with this cycle.

    Kebede

    The mid to upper level trof moving east from the Southern Plains
    day 2 will amplify day 3 as it pushes into the Lower MS Valley.
    Anomalous PW and 850-700 moisture flux values will stretch across a
    large area from the Lower MS Valley, and into the TN & OH Valley,
    Central Appalachians and the Mid-Atlantic. Model consensus is for a
    broad region of moderate to heavy precip in this anomalous PW and
    850-700 mb moisture flux axis. There is a typical amount of qpf
    spread for a day 3 time period. WPC is leaning more toward the
    multi model ensemble qpf mean axis/NBM axis to drive our qpf and
    excessive rainfall axis. While a large portion of the day 3 QPF and
    ERO axes are currently in moderate to severe drought, there may be
    overlap in qpf areas from day 3 and day 1 over the TN and OH
    Valley regions and overlap between the day 2 and day 3 qpf axes
    across the Lower MS Valley into the TN Valley, which will likely
    increase soil saturations and increase stream flows. The previous
    slight risk area was trimmed on the western edge by approximately
    75-100 miles across far southeast MO, southern IL and southern IN
    to better fit the latest QPF.


    ...Central California...
    The slow moving closed low approaching the central CA coast late
    day 2 will continue to push slowly eastward day 3 and push inland
    by early Thursday morning. Similar to the day 2 period, an axis of
    anomalous PW values, 2 to 3 standard deviations above the mean,
    will persist to the east northeast of the closed low across
    Central CA. Scattered convection in this anomalous PW axis will
    support locally heavy rains across Central CA and isolated runoff
    issues, especially across burn scar regions. Only some small
    changes made to the previous marginal risk area, trimming it
    westward across western NV.

    ...Far southeast Arizona into New Mexico...
    No changes of note made to the previous marginal risk area across
    this region. Scattered convection possible, with localized heavy
    rain and isolated runoff issues, especially in burn scar regions.

    Oravec

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-LzW6GfC-4ChtFkqik62XxDvzkfb_sDCz9Sk7c_rqE9L= 7RCiU6E6MtmDVqcw0HHljvnjsKXx6MarSNLb8W6Z27HGVOo$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-LzW6GfC-4ChtFkqik62XxDvzkfb_sDCz9Sk7c_rqE9L= 7RCiU6E6MtmDVqcw0HHljvnjsKXx6MarSNLb8W6ZO0KtN7E$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-LzW6GfC-4ChtFkqik62XxDvzkfb_sDCz9Sk7c_rqE9L= 7RCiU6E6MtmDVqcw0HHljvnjsKXx6MarSNLb8W6ZKoMkinc$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Tue Sep 23 00:45:26 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 230045
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    845 PM EDT Mon Sep 22 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Tue Sep 23 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL IN AND NEAR KANSAS...

    ...Central to Southern Plains...
    Thunderstorms with heavy rainfall are near the Black Hills of SD,=20
    northern IA, and generally near the northern CO/KS border at the=20
    time of this discussion's writing. The most organized convection=20
    capable of heavy rain is forming near and north of a surface low=20
    across northwest KS. The 850-700 mb moisture flux becomes=20
    anomalous, upwards to 2 to 3 standard deviations above the mean by=20
    Tuesday morning. The neighborhood probabilities in both the HREF=20
    and RRFS for 3"+ amounts through 12z remain high enough to keep the
    Slight Risk in place. With time convection moving through eastern=20
    CO should merge with the northwest KS convection and form a cold=20
    pool to allow the activity to drop east-southeast as it tries to=20
    ride in an near an instability gradient, with a similar expectation
    for the southwest SD thunderstorm cluster. Wherever cell mergers,=20 mesocyclones, or training elements occur, hourly amounts to 2.5"=20
    are possible which would be most problematic in urban areas.


    ...Mid to Lower Mississippi Valley into the Ohio Valley...
    A broad marginal risk area was maintained in association with an
    upper level trough pushing east northeastward from the Mid=20
    Mississippi Valley through the Ohio Valley. Well defined large=20
    scale lift in an axis of above average PW values, 1 to 1.5+=20
    standard deviations above the mean, will support the likelihood of=20 widespread moderate to heavy precipitation in an axis from northern
    AR, far southeast MO, far southern IL, KY, and the Upper OH Valley.
    Convection across these areas appears progressive. This and very=20
    low relative soil moistures, much of the area in moderate to severe
    drought, keep the risk level at marginal for the time being. The
    guidance is unclear whether or not a heavier rain signal occurs
    near the KY/TN border overnight, which bears watch. Isolated Slight
    Risk impacts cannot be ruled out in that area.

    Roth


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025 - 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS MISSOURI,
    ARKANSAS, EASTERN OKLAHOMA, WESTERN TENNESSEE, WESTERN KENTUCKY,
    SOUTHERN ILLINOIS, NORTHWESTERN MISSISSIPPI AND SOUTHEAST
    KANSAS...

    ...2030z update...

    The marginal risk area over central/southern California was removed
    from the Bay area based on drier trends in the qpf.

    The risk areas over the Central U.S. were expanded based on high
    12z HREF exceedance probabilities (2+ inches) across the Middle
    Mississippi Valley. Anomalous moisture and instability along a
    strong surface front should promote heavy rainfall. There's
    uncertainty on where exactly the axis of maximum rainfall will
    develop, due to the global and hires models' difficulty resolving
    potential phasing over the Central U.S. on Tuesday.

    Kebede

    The strengthening 850-700 mb moisture flux late day 1 over the
    Southern Plains will remain anomalous day 2 as surface low
    pressure continues to push eastward from the Southern Plains toward
    the Lower Mississippi Valley. 850-700 mb moisture flux anomalies
    are forecast to remain in the 2 to 3+ standard deviation above the
    mean level. This will support the likelihood for the continuation
    of the day 1 organized convection over the Southern Plains, pushing
    eastward into the Lower Arkansas Valley and toward the Mid to Lower
    MS Valley. There are differences with the track of the primary
    surface low, resulting in north to south spread with respect to
    where the max precip axis will be. WPC is favoring the more
    southern qpf axes solutions, with the max axis depicted from far
    eastern OK, northern OK/far southern MO into western TN. This is a
    slight southward trend from previous forecasts, reflecting a
    southward trend in qpf guidance. Changes to the previous slight and
    25% areas were to follow the slight southward qpf axis trend,
    pushing them approximately 40-60 miles farther to the south.

    ...Coastal Central California...
    There is good model agreement with the nearly stationary closed
    low off the Southern CA coast day 1 beginning to slowly move back
    to the north on day 2 toward the Central CA coast. This slow north
    movement will also allow for a northward expansion of the
    anomalous PW values over Southern CA into coastal Central CA, with
    values as high as 3-4 standard deviations above the mean. With good
    model agreement on the closed low track day 2, there is also good
    agreement on potential for areal average moderate precip totals,
    with potential for locally heavier amount along the Central CA
    coast. Isolated runoff issues are possible, especially over any
    burn scars.

    Oravec

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS THE
    TENNESSEE AND OHIO VALLEY REGIONS...

    ...2030z update...

    The marginal risk area over central/southern California was removed
    from the Bay area due to recent drier qpf trends. The Marginal
    risk area over the Southwest was confined to southern New Mexico,
    where the tail end of the Tennessee/Ohio Valley front may produce
    localized instances of flash flooding early on Wednesday.

    The slight and marginal risk areas over the Ohio/Tennessee Valleys
    were expanded to account for antecedent rainfall from today's
    storms. There isn't enough of a qpf signal to overcome the severe
    to extreme drought across the region so an ERO upgrade did not
    occur with this cycle.

    Kebede

    The mid to upper level trof moving east from the Southern Plains
    day 2 will amplify day 3 as it pushes into the Lower MS Valley.
    Anomalous PW and 850-700 moisture flux values will stretch across a
    large area from the Lower MS Valley, and into the TN & OH Valley,
    Central Appalachians and the Mid-Atlantic. Model consensus is for a
    broad region of moderate to heavy precip in this anomalous PW and
    850-700 mb moisture flux axis. There is a typical amount of qpf
    spread for a day 3 time period. WPC is leaning more toward the
    multi model ensemble qpf mean axis/NBM axis to drive our qpf and
    excessive rainfall axis. While a large portion of the day 3 QPF and
    ERO axes are currently in moderate to severe drought, there may be
    overlap in qpf areas from day 3 and day 1 over the TN and OH
    Valley regions and overlap between the day 2 and day 3 qpf axes
    across the Lower MS Valley into the TN Valley, which will likely
    increase soil saturations and increase stream flows. The previous
    slight risk area was trimmed on the western edge by approximately
    75-100 miles across far southeast MO, southern IL and southern IN
    to better fit the latest QPF.


    ...Central California...
    The slow moving closed low approaching the central CA coast late
    day 2 will continue to push slowly eastward day 3 and push inland
    by early Thursday morning. Similar to the day 2 period, an axis of
    anomalous PW values, 2 to 3 standard deviations above the mean,
    will persist to the east northeast of the closed low across
    Central CA. Scattered convection in this anomalous PW axis will
    support locally heavy rains across Central CA and isolated runoff
    issues, especially across burn scar regions. Only some small
    changes made to the previous marginal risk area, trimming it
    westward across western NV.

    ...Far southeast Arizona into New Mexico...
    No changes of note made to the previous marginal risk area across
    this region. Scattered convection possible, with localized heavy
    rain and isolated runoff issues, especially in burn scar regions.

    Oravec

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!59bEQ8SMoGRUIJDRrYci71k3kiwLN5p7dPOklpa_wI6d= Qsa8aotAoU2BPAlv4C5Xx2XxZDMmfKgzepgc4Xqj3j9C1rY$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!59bEQ8SMoGRUIJDRrYci71k3kiwLN5p7dPOklpa_wI6d= Qsa8aotAoU2BPAlv4C5Xx2XxZDMmfKgzepgc4XqjrhrCVN8$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!59bEQ8SMoGRUIJDRrYci71k3kiwLN5p7dPOklpa_wI6d= Qsa8aotAoU2BPAlv4C5Xx2XxZDMmfKgzepgc4XqjPLgGsIo$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Tue Sep 23 07:59:18 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 230759
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    359 AM EDT Tue Sep 23 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025 - 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHERN
    MISSOURI, FAR SOUTHEAST KANSAS, EASTERN OKLAHOMA, FAR NORTHEAST=20
    TEXAS, ARKANSAS, WESTERN TENNESSEE, WESTERN KENTUCKY, AND SOUTHERN=20
    ILLINOIS AND SOUTHERN INDIANA...

    ...Lower Arkansas Valley, Lower Mississippi Valley into the Lower
    Ohio Valley...

    The strengthening low level southerly flow/anomalous 850-700 mb=20
    moisture flux that have supported organized convection over the=20
    Central to Southern Plains early Tuesday will continue to support=20
    the downstream push of this organized convection post 1200 UTC,=20
    with these anomalous 850-700 mb moisture flux values of 2-3+=20
    standard deviations above the mean moving from the eastern sections
    of the Southern Plains into the Lower AR Valley, Lower MS, TN and=20
    OH Valleys. There continues to be some north south spread in the=20
    models with respect to the position of the max precip axis.=20
    Generally, the non-CAMs are farther north and the CAMs farther=20
    south. WPC continues to support the farther south qpf solutions,=20
    with our day 1 risk areas drawn toward them. Overall, not a lot of=20
    changes to the previous slight risk areas. We did extend the slight
    risk farther east into the Lower OH Valley where there is expected
    to be overlap of day 1 heavy precip with observed precip over the=20
    past 24 hours. We also extended the slight risk area farther south=20
    into northeast TX where several of the new 0000 UTC hi-res runs and subsequently the new HREF mean show heavy precip. Otherwise, the=20
    slight and 25% areas fit well with where the HREF and RRFS=20
    neighborhood probabilities are high day 1 for 2" and 3+ amounts.


    ...Coastal Central California...
    There continues to be good model agreement with the nearly=20
    stationary closed low off the Southern CA coast beginning to=20
    slowly move back to the north on day 1 toward the Central CA=20
    coast. This slow north movement will also allow for a northward=20
    expansion of the anomalous PW values over Southern CA into coastal=20
    Central CA, with values as high as 3-4 standard deviations above=20
    the mean. With good model agreement on the closed low track day 1,
    there is also good agreement on potential for areal average=20
    moderate precip totals, with potential for locally heavier amount=20
    along the Central CA coast. Isolated runoff issues are possible,=20
    especially over any burn scars.

    Oravec

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS THE
    TENNESSEE AND OHIO VALLEY REGIONS...

    Anomalous PW and 850-700 moisture flux values will stretch across a
    large area from the Lower MS Valley, and into the TN & OH Valleys,
    Central Appalachians and the Mid-Atlantic, ahead of the amplifying
    longwave trof stretching from the Great Lakes, southward into the
    Lower MS Valley. There still is a fair amount of qpf spread with
    the max axis day 2. WPC is leaning more toward the multi model
    ensemble qpf mean/NBM to drive our qpf and excessive rainfall=20
    axes. This will support a widespread axis of moderate to heavy
    precip amounts from eastern TX into the Lower MS Valley, TN and OH
    Valleys. While a large portion of the day 2 QPF and ERO axes are=20
    currently in moderate to severe drought, there may be overlap in=20
    qpf areas from day 2 and what has fallen over the past 24 hours=20
    from eastern TN into central to eastern KY, and the Upper OH Valley
    region. The previous slight risk was narrowed to better fit this=20
    potential overlap areas. The marginal risk was also trimmed=20
    significantly from southern L.P. of MI, IL, southeast MO and AR to
    better fit the latest qpf update.

    ...Central California...
    The slow moving closed low approaching the central CA coast late
    day 1 will continue to push slowly eastward day 2 and push inland=20
    by early Thursday morning. Similar to the day 1 period, an axis of
    anomalous PW values, 2 to 3 standard deviations above the mean,=20
    will persist to the east northeast of the closed low across Central
    CA. Scattered convection in this anomalous PW axis will support=20
    locally heavy rains across Central CA and isolated runoff issues,=20
    especially across burn scar regions.

    ...Far southeast Arizona into New Mexico...
    No changes made to the previous marginal risk area across this=20
    region. Scattered convection possible, with localized heavy rain=20
    and isolated runoff issues, especially in burn scar regions.

    Oravec

    Day 3 Valid 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND FAR SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    The slow moving closed low moving inland into Central CA day 2 will
    drop back to the south southeast toward Southern CA day 3. This
    system will continue to have an area of anomalous PW values in the
    vicinity of the upper center across Central CA into the Great
    Basin. This closed low will also begin to tap anomalous PW values
    over northwestern Mexico, transporting them into southeast Arizona
    day 3. Model consensus is for a max precip area over Southeast
    Arizona and far southwest New Mexico. The previous slight risk
    across this area was only modified slightly, expanding it slightly
    to the north and east to cover the model max qpf spread. Only some
    minor changes to the marginal risk to the northwest of this across
    northern AZ, southern NV, far southwest UT and into the central=20
    Sierra. Locally heavy rains and isolated runoff issues possible=20
    across these areas, especially over burn scars.=20

    ...Southern to Central Appalachians...
    There will continue to be a broad axis of above average PW values
    pushing eastward day 3 ahead of the elongated upper trof=20
    stretching from the Great Lakes into the OH and TN Valleys. There=20
    is a lot of qpf differences in this high PW axis, leading to low=20
    confidence in where to put risk areas. Much of the eastern U.S. is=20
    in drought conditions with low relative soil moisture levels. One=20
    exception is over portions of the Southern to Central Appalachians
    from eastern TN/far western NC/far southwest VA and eastern WV.=20
    Kept the day 3 marginal confined to these areas and removed the=20
    broader marginal from the previous issuance that extended north and
    east into the Mid-Atlantic and southwestward to the Gulf Coast.=20


    Oravec

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7nMcMn1P-s2Hl2lWZQErm_CuK4LRr5gTTWq-gfMgZt5x= 0ZRJMkjOdDFAmh9AZFPATtIf62o3pdoPsKPnJnuTkV5DYqw$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7nMcMn1P-s2Hl2lWZQErm_CuK4LRr5gTTWq-gfMgZt5x= 0ZRJMkjOdDFAmh9AZFPATtIf62o3pdoPsKPnJnuTV3apz4A$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7nMcMn1P-s2Hl2lWZQErm_CuK4LRr5gTTWq-gfMgZt5x= 0ZRJMkjOdDFAmh9AZFPATtIf62o3pdoPsKPnJnuTnEKgbE0$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Tue Sep 23 08:26:06 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 230825
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    425 AM EDT Tue Sep 23 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 23 2025 - 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHERN
    MISSOURI, FAR SOUTHEAST KANSAS, EASTERN OKLAHOMA, FAR NORTHEAST
    TEXAS, ARKANSAS, WESTERN TENNESSEE, WESTERN KENTUCKY, AND SOUTHERN
    ILLINOIS AND SOUTHERN INDIANA...

    ...Lower Arkansas Valley, Lower Mississippi Valley into the Lower
    Ohio Valley...

    The strengthening low level southerly flow/anomalous 850-700 mb
    moisture flux that have supported organized convection over the
    Central to Southern Plains early Tuesday will continue to support
    the downstream push of this organized convection post 1200 UTC,
    with these anomalous 850-700 mb moisture flux values of 2-3+
    standard deviations above the mean moving from the eastern sections
    of the Southern Plains into the Lower AR Valley, Lower MS, TN and
    OH Valleys. There continues to be some north south spread in the
    models with respect to the position of the max precip axis.
    Generally, the non-CAMs are farther north and the CAMs farther
    south. WPC continues to support the farther south qpf solutions,
    with our day 1 risk areas drawn toward them. Overall, not a lot of
    changes to the previous slight risk areas. We did extend the slight
    risk farther east into the Lower OH Valley where there is expected
    to be overlap of day 1 heavy precip with observed precip over the
    past 24 hours. We also extended the slight risk area farther south
    into northeast TX where several of the new 0000 UTC hi-res runs and subsequently the new HREF mean show heavy precip. Otherwise, the
    slight and 25% areas fit well with where the HREF and RRFS
    neighborhood probabilities are high day 1 for 2" and 3+ amounts.


    ...Coastal Central California...
    There continues to be good model agreement with the nearly
    stationary closed low off the Southern CA coast beginning to
    slowly move back to the north on day 1 toward the Central CA
    coast. This slow north movement will also allow for a northward
    expansion of the anomalous PW values over Southern CA into coastal
    Central CA, with values as high as 3-4 standard deviations above
    the mean. With good model agreement on the closed low track day 1,
    there is also good agreement on potential for areal average
    moderate precip totals, with potential for locally heavier amount
    along the Central CA coast. Isolated runoff issues are possible,
    especially over any burn scars.

    Oravec

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS THE
    TENNESSEE AND OHIO VALLEY REGIONS...

    Anomalous PW and 850-700 moisture flux values will stretch across a
    large area from the Lower MS Valley, and into the TN & OH Valleys,
    Central Appalachians and the Mid-Atlantic, ahead of the amplifying
    longwave trof stretching from the Great Lakes, southward into the
    Lower MS Valley. There still is a fair amount of qpf spread with
    the max axis day 2. WPC is leaning more toward the multi model
    ensemble qpf mean/NBM to drive our qpf and excessive rainfall
    axes. This will support a widespread axis of moderate to heavy
    precip amounts from eastern TX into the Lower MS Valley, TN and OH
    Valleys. While a large portion of the day 2 QPF and ERO axes are
    currently in moderate to severe drought, there may be overlap in
    qpf areas from day 2 and what has fallen over the past 24 hours
    from eastern TN into central to eastern KY, and the Upper OH Valley
    region. The previous slight risk was narrowed to better fit this
    potential overlap areas. The marginal risk was also trimmed
    significantly from southern L.P. of MI, IL, southeast MO and AR to
    better fit the latest qpf update.

    ...Central California...
    The slow moving closed low approaching the central CA coast late
    day 1 will continue to push slowly eastward day 2 and push inland
    by early Thursday morning. Similar to the day 1 period, an axis of
    anomalous PW values, 2 to 3 standard deviations above the mean,
    will persist to the east northeast of the closed low across Central
    CA. Scattered convection in this anomalous PW axis will support
    locally heavy rains across Central CA and isolated runoff issues,
    especially across burn scar regions.

    ...Far southeast Arizona into New Mexico...
    No changes made to the previous marginal risk area across this
    region. Scattered convection possible, with localized heavy rain
    and isolated runoff issues, especially in burn scar regions.

    Oravec

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND FAR SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    The slow moving closed low moving inland into Central CA day 2 will
    drop back to the south southeast toward Southern CA day 3. This
    system will continue to have an area of anomalous PW values in the
    vicinity of the upper center across Central CA into the Great
    Basin. This closed low will also begin to tap anomalous PW values
    over northwestern Mexico, transporting them into southeast Arizona
    day 3. Model consensus is for a max precip area over Southeast
    Arizona and far southwest New Mexico. The previous slight risk
    across this area was only modified slightly, expanding it slightly
    to the north and east to cover the model max qpf spread. Only some
    minor changes to the marginal risk to the northwest of this across
    northern AZ, southern NV, far southwest UT and into the central
    Sierra. Locally heavy rains and isolated runoff issues possible
    across these areas, especially over burn scars.

    ...Southern to Central Appalachians...
    There will continue to be a broad axis of above average PW values
    pushing eastward day 3 ahead of the elongated upper trof
    stretching from the Great Lakes into the OH and TN Valleys. There
    is a lot of qpf differences in this high PW axis, leading to low
    confidence in where to put risk areas. Much of the eastern U.S. is
    in drought conditions with low relative soil moisture levels. One
    exception is over portions of the Southern to Central Appalachians
    from eastern TN/far western NC/far southwest VA and eastern WV.
    Kept the day 3 marginal confined to these areas and removed the
    broader marginal from the previous issuance that extended north and
    east into the Mid-Atlantic and southwestward to the Gulf Coast.


    Oravec

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8Zu8ZnL1PPrE0Wx6wMUWtfPThSPOny5Dxs22C7qC2cZw= VGe2DnNYUBD8tyXBMSa6eaVoiGaStbv9ULX8CM8LV_WWBhE$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8Zu8ZnL1PPrE0Wx6wMUWtfPThSPOny5Dxs22C7qC2cZw= VGe2DnNYUBD8tyXBMSa6eaVoiGaStbv9ULX8CM8LDObXeQ4$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8Zu8ZnL1PPrE0Wx6wMUWtfPThSPOny5Dxs22C7qC2cZw= VGe2DnNYUBD8tyXBMSa6eaVoiGaStbv9ULX8CM8LEHiSYnE$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Tue Sep 23 15:54:24 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 231554
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1154 AM EDT Tue Sep 23 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Tue Sep 23 2025 - 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHERN
    MISSOURI, FAR SOUTHEAST KANSAS, EASTERN OKLAHOMA, FAR NORTHEAST
    TEXAS, ARKANSAS, WESTERN TENNESSEE, WESTERN KENTUCKY, AND SOUTHERN
    ILLINOIS AND SOUTHERN INDIANA...

    ...Lower Arkansas Valley, Lower Mississippi Valley into the Lower
    Ohio Valley...

    16Z Update: No significant changes to the risk areas with the main
    area of concern being southern Missouri, northern Arkansas, eastern
    Oklahoma, and far southeast Kansas where a frontal boundary draped
    across interacts with copious amounts of moisture. The 12Z HREF
    probabilities align fairly well with the inherited Slight Risk=20
    area with only minimal adjustments needed.=20

    ---previous discussion---=20

    The strengthening low level southerly flow/anomalous 850-700 mb
    moisture flux that have supported organized convection over the
    Central to Southern Plains early Tuesday will continue to support
    the downstream push of this organized convection post 1200 UTC,
    with these anomalous 850-700 mb moisture flux values of 2-3+
    standard deviations above the mean moving from the eastern sections
    of the Southern Plains into the Lower AR Valley, Lower MS, TN and
    OH Valleys. There continues to be some north south spread in the
    models with respect to the position of the max precip axis.
    Generally, the non-CAMs are farther north and the CAMs farther
    south. WPC continues to support the farther south qpf solutions,
    with our day 1 risk areas drawn toward them. Overall, not a lot of
    changes to the previous slight risk areas. We did extend the slight
    risk farther east into the Lower OH Valley where there is expected
    to be overlap of day 1 heavy precip with observed precip over the
    past 24 hours. We also extended the slight risk area farther south
    into northeast TX where several of the new 0000 UTC hi-res runs and subsequently the new HREF mean show heavy precip. Otherwise, the
    slight and 25% areas fit well with where the HREF and RRFS
    neighborhood probabilities are high day 1 for 2" and 3+ amounts.


    ...Coastal Central California...
    There continues to be good model agreement with the nearly
    stationary closed low off the Southern CA coast beginning to
    slowly move back to the north on day 1 toward the Central CA
    coast. This slow north movement will also allow for a northward
    expansion of the anomalous PW values over Southern CA into coastal
    Central CA, with values as high as 3-4 standard deviations above
    the mean. With good model agreement on the closed low track day 1,
    there is also good agreement on potential for areal average
    moderate precip totals, with potential for locally heavier amount
    along the Central CA coast. Isolated runoff issues are possible,
    especially over any burn scars.

    ...New Mexico...
    The combination of upper level divergence bringing large scale
    forcing for ascent along with an axis of slightly above normal
    moisture will bring the threat of isolated to scattered
    thunderstorms to the area. A Marginal Risk was introduced for the
    threat of isolated flash flooding, particularly over any sensitive
    areas like recent burn scars.=20

    Oravec/Taylor

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS THE
    TENNESSEE AND OHIO VALLEY REGIONS...

    Anomalous PW and 850-700 moisture flux values will stretch across a
    large area from the Lower MS Valley, and into the TN & OH Valleys,
    Central Appalachians and the Mid-Atlantic, ahead of the amplifying
    longwave trof stretching from the Great Lakes, southward into the
    Lower MS Valley. There still is a fair amount of qpf spread with
    the max axis day 2. WPC is leaning more toward the multi model
    ensemble qpf mean/NBM to drive our qpf and excessive rainfall
    axes. This will support a widespread axis of moderate to heavy
    precip amounts from eastern TX into the Lower MS Valley, TN and OH
    Valleys. While a large portion of the day 2 QPF and ERO axes are
    currently in moderate to severe drought, there may be overlap in
    qpf areas from day 2 and what has fallen over the past 24 hours
    from eastern TN into central to eastern KY, and the Upper OH Valley
    region. The previous slight risk was narrowed to better fit this
    potential overlap areas. The marginal risk was also trimmed
    significantly from southern L.P. of MI, IL, southeast MO and AR to
    better fit the latest qpf update.

    ...Central California...
    The slow moving closed low approaching the central CA coast late
    day 1 will continue to push slowly eastward day 2 and push inland
    by early Thursday morning. Similar to the day 1 period, an axis of
    anomalous PW values, 2 to 3 standard deviations above the mean,
    will persist to the east northeast of the closed low across Central
    CA. Scattered convection in this anomalous PW axis will support
    locally heavy rains across Central CA and isolated runoff issues,
    especially across burn scar regions.

    ...Far southeast Arizona into New Mexico...
    No changes made to the previous marginal risk area across this
    region. Scattered convection possible, with localized heavy rain
    and isolated runoff issues, especially in burn scar regions.

    Oravec

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND FAR SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    The slow moving closed low moving inland into Central CA day 2 will
    drop back to the south southeast toward Southern CA day 3. This
    system will continue to have an area of anomalous PW values in the
    vicinity of the upper center across Central CA into the Great
    Basin. This closed low will also begin to tap anomalous PW values
    over northwestern Mexico, transporting them into southeast Arizona
    day 3. Model consensus is for a max precip area over Southeast
    Arizona and far southwest New Mexico. The previous slight risk
    across this area was only modified slightly, expanding it slightly
    to the north and east to cover the model max qpf spread. Only some
    minor changes to the marginal risk to the northwest of this across
    northern AZ, southern NV, far southwest UT and into the central
    Sierra. Locally heavy rains and isolated runoff issues possible
    across these areas, especially over burn scars.

    ...Southern to Central Appalachians...
    There will continue to be a broad axis of above average PW values
    pushing eastward day 3 ahead of the elongated upper trof
    stretching from the Great Lakes into the OH and TN Valleys. There
    is a lot of qpf differences in this high PW axis, leading to low
    confidence in where to put risk areas. Much of the eastern U.S. is
    in drought conditions with low relative soil moisture levels. One
    exception is over portions of the Southern to Central Appalachians
    from eastern TN/far western NC/far southwest VA and eastern WV.
    Kept the day 3 marginal confined to these areas and removed the
    broader marginal from the previous issuance that extended north and
    east into the Mid-Atlantic and southwestward to the Gulf Coast.


    Oravec

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8HoWOi37BSa4wePhgYbJqOTQ5T6Zw7VBD5qIkNCFtsR3= qrGD81y0M4rM_nssEOiAkMMvayQEvR1yY6CHkD3S3sh9Itw$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8HoWOi37BSa4wePhgYbJqOTQ5T6Zw7VBD5qIkNCFtsR3= qrGD81y0M4rM_nssEOiAkMMvayQEvR1yY6CHkD3S_5foOx0$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8HoWOi37BSa4wePhgYbJqOTQ5T6Zw7VBD5qIkNCFtsR3= qrGD81y0M4rM_nssEOiAkMMvayQEvR1yY6CHkD3Sc7YbA7I$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 231953
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    353 PM EDT Tue Sep 23 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Tue Sep 23 2025 - 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHERN
    MISSOURI, FAR SOUTHEAST KANSAS, EASTERN OKLAHOMA, FAR NORTHEAST
    TEXAS, ARKANSAS, WESTERN TENNESSEE, WESTERN KENTUCKY, AND SOUTHERN
    ILLINOIS AND SOUTHERN INDIANA...

    ...Lower Arkansas Valley, Lower Mississippi Valley into the Lower
    Ohio Valley...

    16Z Update: No significant changes to the risk areas with the main
    area of concern being southern Missouri, northern Arkansas, eastern
    Oklahoma, and far southeast Kansas where a frontal boundary draped
    across interacts with copious amounts of moisture. The 12Z HREF
    probabilities align fairly well with the inherited Slight Risk
    area with only minimal adjustments needed.

    ---previous discussion---

    The strengthening low level southerly flow/anomalous 850-700 mb
    moisture flux that have supported organized convection over the
    Central to Southern Plains early Tuesday will continue to support
    the downstream push of this organized convection post 1200 UTC,
    with these anomalous 850-700 mb moisture flux values of 2-3+
    standard deviations above the mean moving from the eastern sections
    of the Southern Plains into the Lower AR Valley, Lower MS, TN and
    OH Valleys. There continues to be some north south spread in the
    models with respect to the position of the max precip axis.
    Generally, the non-CAMs are farther north and the CAMs farther
    south. WPC continues to support the farther south qpf solutions,
    with our day 1 risk areas drawn toward them. Overall, not a lot of
    changes to the previous slight risk areas. We did extend the slight
    risk farther east into the Lower OH Valley where there is expected
    to be overlap of day 1 heavy precip with observed precip over the
    past 24 hours. We also extended the slight risk area farther south
    into northeast TX where several of the new 0000 UTC hi-res runs and subsequently the new HREF mean show heavy precip. Otherwise, the
    slight and 25% areas fit well with where the HREF and RRFS
    neighborhood probabilities are high day 1 for 2" and 3+ amounts.


    ...Coastal Central California...
    There continues to be good model agreement with the nearly
    stationary closed low off the Southern CA coast beginning to
    slowly move back to the north on day 1 toward the Central CA
    coast. This slow north movement will also allow for a northward
    expansion of the anomalous PW values over Southern CA into coastal
    Central CA, with values as high as 3-4 standard deviations above
    the mean. With good model agreement on the closed low track day 1,
    there is also good agreement on potential for areal average
    moderate precip totals, with potential for locally heavier amount
    along the Central CA coast. Isolated runoff issues are possible,
    especially over any burn scars.

    ...New Mexico...
    The combination of upper level divergence bringing large scale
    forcing for ascent along with an axis of slightly above normal
    moisture will bring the threat of isolated to scattered
    thunderstorms to the area. A Marginal Risk was introduced for the
    threat of isolated flash flooding, particularly over any sensitive
    areas like recent burn scars.

    Oravec/Taylor

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS THE
    TENNESSEE AND OHIO VALLEY REGIONS...

    20Z Update:=20
    No significant adjustments made to this update with the greatest
    threat of intense rain rates and repeated rounds of thunderstorms
    over the TN and OH Valleys into portions of the central
    Appalachians. Other areas with locally higher rainfall and rain
    rates are across portions of northern NJ, eastern PA, and southern
    NY late in the period and then across portions of eastern TX as the
    convective complexes shift southward.=20

    ---previous discussion---

    Anomalous PW and 850-700 moisture flux values will stretch across=20
    a large area from the Lower MS Valley, and into the TN & OH=20
    Valleys, Central Appalachians and the Mid- Atlantic, ahead of the=20
    amplifying longwave trof stretching from the Great Lakes, southward
    into the Lower MS Valley. There still is a fair amount of qpf=20
    spread with the max axis day 2. WPC is leaning more toward the=20
    multi model ensemble qpf mean/NBM to drive our qpf and excessive=20
    rainfall axes. This will support a widespread axis of moderate to=20
    heavy precip amounts from eastern TX into the Lower MS Valley, TN=20
    and OH Valleys. While a large portion of the day 2 QPF and ERO axes
    are currently in moderate to severe drought, there may be overlap=20
    in qpf areas from day 2 and what has fallen over the past 24 hours=20
    from eastern TN into central to eastern KY, and the Upper OH Valley
    region. The previous slight risk was narrowed to better fit this=20
    potential overlap areas. The marginal risk was also trimmed=20
    significantly from southern L.P. of MI, IL, southeast MO and AR to=20
    better fit the latest qpf update.

    ...Central California...
    The slow moving closed low approaching the central CA coast late
    day 1 will continue to push slowly eastward day 2 and push inland
    by early Thursday morning. Similar to the day 1 period, an axis of
    anomalous PW values, 2 to 3 standard deviations above the mean,
    will persist to the east northeast of the closed low across Central
    CA. Scattered convection in this anomalous PW axis will support
    locally heavy rains across Central CA and isolated runoff issues,
    especially across burn scar regions.

    ...Far southeast Arizona into New Mexico...
    No changes made to the previous marginal risk area across this
    region. Scattered convection possible, with localized heavy rain
    and isolated runoff issues, especially in burn scar regions.

    Oravec

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND FAR SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    The slow moving closed low moving inland into Central CA day 2 will
    drop back to the south southeast toward Southern CA day 3. This
    system will continue to have an area of anomalous PW values in the
    vicinity of the upper center across Central CA into the Great
    Basin. This closed low will also begin to tap anomalous PW values
    over northwestern Mexico, transporting them into southeast Arizona
    day 3. Model consensus is for a max precip area over Southeast
    Arizona and far southwest New Mexico. The previous slight risk
    across this area was only modified slightly, expanding it slightly
    to the north and east to cover the model max qpf spread. Only some
    minor changes to the marginal risk to the northwest of this across
    northern AZ, southern NV, far southwest UT and into the central
    Sierra. Locally heavy rains and isolated runoff issues possible
    across these areas, especially over burn scars.

    ...Southern to Central Appalachians...
    There will continue to be a broad axis of above average PW values
    pushing eastward day 3 ahead of the elongated upper trof
    stretching from the Great Lakes into the OH and TN Valleys. There
    is a lot of qpf differences in this high PW axis, leading to low
    confidence in where to put risk areas. Much of the eastern U.S. is
    in drought conditions with low relative soil moisture levels. One
    exception is over portions of the Southern to Central Appalachians
    from eastern TN/far western NC/far southwest VA and eastern WV.
    Kept the day 3 marginal confined to these areas and removed the
    broader marginal from the previous issuance that extended north and
    east into the Mid-Atlantic and southwestward to the Gulf Coast.


    Oravec

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!45wsvkduC9LWxSdoGKkG5ccYyRNDwsbzD6jV44zf-p3W= rAmQ35ZQu2rsK6Fqo8wGVTKE0sj8OdXIV4zXuPPZVEQIqU4$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!45wsvkduC9LWxSdoGKkG5ccYyRNDwsbzD6jV44zf-p3W= rAmQ35ZQu2rsK6Fqo8wGVTKE0sj8OdXIV4zXuPPZhs_YKNQ$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!45wsvkduC9LWxSdoGKkG5ccYyRNDwsbzD6jV44zf-p3W= rAmQ35ZQu2rsK6Fqo8wGVTKE0sj8OdXIV4zXuPPZLvB3kc4$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Wed Sep 24 00:12:39 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 240012
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    812 PM EDT Tue Sep 23 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Wed Sep 24 2025 - 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE OHIO AND MID TO LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEYS INTO THE ARKLATEX...

    ...Ohio and Mississippi Valley's into ArkLaTex...

    01z Update: Surface and upper level progression over the Southern
    Plains will continue through the overnight hours with large scale=20
    ascent still primed to impact the Mid to Lower Mississippi Valley=20
    tonight into the ArkLaTex early Wednesday morning. Thunderstorm
    genesis will occur over southeast OK into western AR and move
    east-southeast with the mean flow as a cold front propagates out of
    OK and shoves the pattern downstream. Heavy rainfall within a
    corridor of modest low to mid-level lapse rates and surface based
    instability will aid in convective schema leading to locally heavy
    rates between 1-2"/hr at peak intensity with the strongest cores
    capable of ~3"/hr given the PWATs near 2" in place over the
    aforementioned area. Copious amounts of rain and flash flood
    signals were prevalent earlier in the D1 period, and that threat
    will continue its migration south along and ahead of the cold
    front. This was more than enough to favor a general maintenance of
    the SLGT risk from prior forecast, but did scale back on the
    northern and western flank of the risk due to the heavy rainfall
    prospects likely done with the frontal approach imminent, and/or
    loss of favored ascent.=20

    The threat for scattered heavy rainfall expands eastward into the=20
    Southern Ohio, and Tennessee Valley's as a quasi- stationary front=20
    bisects the area from the Ozarks into the western reaches of the=20
    Ohio Valley. Expectation is for smaller mid- level perturbations to
    ripple eastward along the front enacting focused ascent within the
    boundary confines which could spell for periods of locally heavy=20
    rain with some training potential in-of the front. Signal is not=20
    nearly as prolific as upstream over the Mississippi Valley, mainly=20
    due to the lower instability forecast over the area. That said,=20
    lower FFG's add favor to a threat overnight as any cell >1"/hr will
    have the capability to induce some flash flood prospects. As a=20
    result, have maintained the previous SLGT risk forecast over the=20
    area with some minor expansion to the east given recent hi-res
    trends.=20

    ...Coastal Central California...

    01z Update: Primary threat for flash flooding this evening across
    CA will be situated within any remnant burn scars that exhibit
    those isolated pockets of much lower FFG's that would favor a
    better threat for flash flooding. The setup was forecast to occur
    this evening, so there was no reason to deviate from continuity.
    The previous MRGL was maintained with no changes.=20

    ...Kansas...=20

    01z Update: Shortwave ejection out of the Front Range will slowly
    migrate eastward with a threat of heavy rain from convection
    situated in-of the axis of a weak nocturnal LLJ converging with a
    residual quasi-stationary front over northwest KS. The threat is
    very isolated in nature, but hi-res continues to depict a small
    axis of heavy rain potential from the CO/KS border near Goodland
    down into Dodge City during the evening. The threat remains within
    the lower bounds of the MRGL risk threshold, but still has merit,
    so maintained continuity over the region and removed the risk
    downstream over central and eastern KS as the threat there has
    ended.=20

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS THE
    TENNESSEE AND OHIO VALLEY REGIONS...

    20Z Update:
    No significant adjustments made to this update with the greatest
    threat of intense rain rates and repeated rounds of thunderstorms
    over the TN and OH Valleys into portions of the central
    Appalachians. Other areas with locally higher rainfall and rain
    rates are across portions of northern NJ, eastern PA, and southern
    NY late in the period and then across portions of eastern TX as the
    convective complexes shift southward.

    ---previous discussion---

    Anomalous PW and 850-700 moisture flux values will stretch across
    a large area from the Lower MS Valley, and into the TN & OH
    Valleys, Central Appalachians and the Mid- Atlantic, ahead of the
    amplifying longwave trof stretching from the Great Lakes, southward
    into the Lower MS Valley. There still is a fair amount of qpf
    spread with the max axis day 2. WPC is leaning more toward the
    multi model ensemble qpf mean/NBM to drive our qpf and excessive
    rainfall axes. This will support a widespread axis of moderate to
    heavy precip amounts from eastern TX into the Lower MS Valley, TN
    and OH Valleys. While a large portion of the day 2 QPF and ERO axes
    are currently in moderate to severe drought, there may be overlap
    in qpf areas from day 2 and what has fallen over the past 24 hours
    from eastern TN into central to eastern KY, and the Upper OH Valley
    region. The previous slight risk was narrowed to better fit this
    potential overlap areas. The marginal risk was also trimmed
    significantly from southern L.P. of MI, IL, southeast MO and AR to
    better fit the latest qpf update.

    ...Central California...
    The slow moving closed low approaching the central CA coast late
    day 1 will continue to push slowly eastward day 2 and push inland
    by early Thursday morning. Similar to the day 1 period, an axis of
    anomalous PW values, 2 to 3 standard deviations above the mean,
    will persist to the east northeast of the closed low across Central
    CA. Scattered convection in this anomalous PW axis will support
    locally heavy rains across Central CA and isolated runoff issues,
    especially across burn scar regions.

    ...Far southeast Arizona into New Mexico...
    No changes made to the previous marginal risk area across this
    region. Scattered convection possible, with localized heavy rain
    and isolated runoff issues, especially in burn scar regions.

    Oravec

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND FAR SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    The slow moving closed low moving inland into Central CA day 2 will
    drop back to the south southeast toward Southern CA day 3. This
    system will continue to have an area of anomalous PW values in the
    vicinity of the upper center across Central CA into the Great
    Basin. This closed low will also begin to tap anomalous PW values
    over northwestern Mexico, transporting them into southeast Arizona
    day 3. Model consensus is for a max precip area over Southeast
    Arizona and far southwest New Mexico. The previous slight risk
    across this area was only modified slightly, expanding it slightly
    to the north and east to cover the model max qpf spread. Only some
    minor changes to the marginal risk to the northwest of this across
    northern AZ, southern NV, far southwest UT and into the central
    Sierra. Locally heavy rains and isolated runoff issues possible
    across these areas, especially over burn scars.

    ...Southern to Central Appalachians...
    There will continue to be a broad axis of above average PW values
    pushing eastward day 3 ahead of the elongated upper trof
    stretching from the Great Lakes into the OH and TN Valleys. There
    is a lot of qpf differences in this high PW axis, leading to low
    confidence in where to put risk areas. Much of the eastern U.S. is
    in drought conditions with low relative soil moisture levels. One
    exception is over portions of the Southern to Central Appalachians
    from eastern TN/far western NC/far southwest VA and eastern WV.
    Kept the day 3 marginal confined to these areas and removed the
    broader marginal from the previous issuance that extended north and
    east into the Mid-Atlantic and southwestward to the Gulf Coast.


    Oravec

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4p_bm-eNh2_g7NQ8dqT5VqOJxwnnOneinigyAjdiEhEF= 8Vp84CGLuHD8UTziNOgK9SJGyrhcRLuNlIMz9JDU5Sc5mvY$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4p_bm-eNh2_g7NQ8dqT5VqOJxwnnOneinigyAjdiEhEF= 8Vp84CGLuHD8UTziNOgK9SJGyrhcRLuNlIMz9JDUFyNPMwI$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4p_bm-eNh2_g7NQ8dqT5VqOJxwnnOneinigyAjdiEhEF= 8Vp84CGLuHD8UTziNOgK9SJGyrhcRLuNlIMz9JDUFxuMuKM$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 240831
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    431 AM EDT Wed Sep 24 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Wed Sep 24 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS THE
    TENNESSEE AND OHIO VALLEY REGIONS...

    ...Southern Plains to the Central and Southern Appalachians...

    Overall, no large-scale changes to the previous outlook areas,
    maintaining a broad Marginal Risk that extends from portions of
    central and southern Texas to the southern and central=20
    Appalachians, with an embedded Slight Risk centered over parts of=20
    the Ohio and Tennessee valleys.=20

    Composite radar this morning shows widespread showers and storms=20
    extending from the Ohio Valley back into the southern Plains. The=20
    overnight CAMs indicate that ongoing storms along the far eastern=20 Oklahoma-Texas border into southern Arkansas will remain organized
    into the late morning as the drift slowly south, with training=20
    storms likely to produce heavy amounts across portions of=20
    northeastern Texas and northwestern Louisiana. Supported by=20
    shortwave energy moving through the base of a broader-scale=20 positively-tilted upper trough and PWs at or above 2 inches, HREF=20 probabilities indicate locally heavy amounts exceeding 3 inches are
    likely. However, dry soil conditions, reflected by high FFGs, are=20
    expected to limit the threat for widespread flooding concerns.

    As energy continues to move through the base of the upper trough,
    an area of low pressure is expected to become better organized and
    track northeast through the Ohio Valley beginning later this
    afternoon and continuing into the overnight. Deep southwesterly
    flow ahead of the wave will support increasing moisture, with PW
    anomalies increasing to over 2 std dev above normal per the GFS.
    Given the ongoing rains and relatively wetter soil conditions
    (lower FFGs), a Slight Risk extending from far northern Alabama to
    far southern Ohio and western West Virginia was maintained. HREF=20 probabilities indicate that amounts of 1-2 inches will be common,=20
    with locally heavier amounts over 3 inches possible within the=20
    Slight Risk area.

    In the wake of the low, showers and storms producing heavier rates
    are expected along the trailing front as it sinks south through=20
    the lower Mississippi Valley and along the upper Texas coast back=20
    into South Texas. Here too, the HREF is indicating locally heavy=20
    amounts over 3 inches are likely. But similar to areas to the=20
    north, higher FFGs suggest flooding issues will be mostly contained
    to vulnerable areas, including urbanized centers.

    ...Northeast...

    The general consensus of the CAMs shows an area of showers and
    storms moving northeast well in advance of the system over the Ohio
    Valley. Supported by deepening moisture along a slow-moving
    boundary and increasing mid-to-upper level forcing, showers and
    storms will advance northeast across Pennsylvania, with repeating
    storms potentially resulting in locally heavy amounts from
    northeastern Pennsylvania into the lower Hudson Valley/NYC area. A
    A Marginal Risk was maintained for areas where the HREF shows=20
    higher probabilities for amounts over 2 inches and where FFGs are=20
    relatively lower.

    ...Southeastern Lower Michigan...

    An upper low closing off this morning is expected to remain
    centered over Lower Michigan into Thursday morning. Showers and
    storms are likely to develop east of the center, with relatively
    deeper moisture wrapping into the system raising the potential for
    locally heavy rainfall rates. A small Marginal Risk was=20
    introduced, highlighting the area where the HREF shows high=20
    probabilities for accumulations exceeding 2 inches.

    ...Central California...

    A slow-moving upper low currently offshore will drift north and
    begin moving inland Thursday morning. With anomalous moisture
    remaining in place (2.5-3 std dev above normal), locally heavy
    amounts will remain possible. Reflecting the high HREF
    probabilities for amounts over an inch, a Marginal Risk was
    maintained along the central California Coast from the Monterey=20
    Bay south and along the adjacent mountains.=20

    Pereira


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND FAR SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest to Sierra Nevada...

    After moving inland early Thursday, the closed low over central
    California is forecast to drop south into southern California by
    early Friday. With ample moisture remaining in place (2-3 std
    dev above normal) near and east of the upper center, locally heavy
    amounts are possible from the Sierra Nevada east into southern=20
    Nevada and southwestern Utah.

    As the center drops south, increasing southerly flow east of the
    low will draw deeper moisture up from Mexico, fueling widespread
    shower and thunderstorm coverage, especially across southeastern
    and central Arizona into southwestern New Mexico. A Slight Risk=20
    was maintained across this area where PWs are forecast to increase=20
    to 1-2 standard deviations above normal by the afternoon.

    ...Northeast...

    Unsettled weather developing Day 1 is forecast to continue into=20
    Thursday as showers and storms continue to develop ahead of the=20
    system lifting out of the Ohio Valley into the Northeast.=20
    Strengthening southwesterly flow along the Mid Atlantic coast into=20
    the Northeast will support deepening moisture (PWs increasing to ~2
    inches) and an increasing threat for heavy rainfall rates. A=20
    Marginal Risk was maintained from northern New Jersey into southern
    New England, where HREF probabilities indicate that localized=20
    amounts over 3 inches are possible late Thursday morning into the=20
    afternoon.

    ...Southern Appalachians...

    The consensus of the latest guidance indicates that showers and
    storms developing along and ahead of the cold front trailing the=20
    low moving through the Northeast will be generally progressive.=20
    With widespread heavy amounts not expected and FFGs high, the=20
    previous Marginal Risk was removed from much of the Mid Atlantic.=20
    However, some models do show the potential for training storms to=20
    produce some localized heavy amounts (2+ inches) across parts of=20
    the southern Appalachians, where a small Marginal Risk was=20
    maintained.

    Pereira


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest...

    A second day of numerous showers and storms is expected across the
    Southwest, especially for much of southeastern Arizona and parts of southwestern New Mexico. The upper low setting into southern
    California the previous period is expected to move little this day,
    remaining centered near the California/Mexico border. This will
    help to maintain anomalous moisture across the region, fueling
    widespread shower and thunderstorm coverage during the afternoon=20
    and evening hours. A Slight Risk, with a footprint similar to the=20
    Day 2 area, was maintained for Day 3 across parts of Arizona and=20
    New Mexico.

    ...Southeast...

    A boundary will remain in place across the Southeast as an upper
    trough evolves into a closed low that is forecast to linger beyond
    the period. Moisture and energy lifting ahead of the closing system
    will support periods of shower and storms. While the guidance at
    this point is not signaling any widespread heavy amounts, the
    pattern does lend itself to at least the threat for locally heavy
    amounts, which may raise at least isolated flooding concerns.

    Pereira

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5vA739x67VpnfVraAik3IwQLSuWXLa9vminnKBPVMd88= _4ip2yq-4cSfT_dtRHVGrOOe9KqZkZf6iCg6bJT_HUWuYcM$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5vA739x67VpnfVraAik3IwQLSuWXLa9vminnKBPVMd88= _4ip2yq-4cSfT_dtRHVGrOOe9KqZkZf6iCg6bJT_2G4rUvQ$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5vA739x67VpnfVraAik3IwQLSuWXLa9vminnKBPVMd88= _4ip2yq-4cSfT_dtRHVGrOOe9KqZkZf6iCg6bJT_5YHAnno$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 241557
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1157 AM EDT Wed Sep 24 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Wed Sep 24 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS THE
    TENNESSEE AND OHIO VALLEY REGIONS...

    ...Southern Plains to the Central and Southern Appalachians...

    Overall, no large-scale changes to the previous outlook areas,
    maintaining a broad Marginal Risk that extends from portions of
    central and southern Texas to the southern and central
    Appalachians, with an embedded Slight Risk centered over parts of
    the Ohio and Tennessee valleys.

    Composite radar this morning shows widespread showers and storms
    extending from the Ohio Valley back into the southern Plains. The
    overnight CAMs indicate that ongoing storms along the far eastern Oklahoma-Texas border into southern Arkansas will remain organized
    into the late morning as the drift slowly south, with training
    storms likely to produce heavy amounts across portions of
    northeastern Texas and northwestern Louisiana. Supported by
    shortwave energy moving through the base of a broader-scale
    positively-tilted upper trough and PWs at or above 2 inches, HREF
    probabilities indicate locally heavy amounts exceeding 3 inches are
    likely. However, dry soil conditions, reflected by high FFGs, are
    expected to limit the threat for widespread flooding concerns.

    As energy continues to move through the base of the upper trough,
    an area of low pressure is expected to become better organized and
    track northeast through the Ohio Valley beginning later this
    afternoon and continuing into the overnight. Deep southwesterly
    flow ahead of the wave will support increasing moisture, with PW
    anomalies increasing to over 2 std dev above normal per the GFS.
    Given the ongoing rains and relatively wetter soil conditions
    (lower FFGs), a Slight Risk extending from far northern Alabama to
    far southern Ohio and western West Virginia was maintained. HREF
    probabilities indicate that amounts of 1-2 inches will be common,
    with locally heavier amounts over 3 inches possible within the
    Slight Risk area.

    In the wake of the low, showers and storms producing heavier rates
    are expected along the trailing front as it sinks south through
    the lower Mississippi Valley and along the upper Texas coast back
    into South Texas. Here too, the HREF is indicating locally heavy
    amounts over 3 inches are likely. But similar to areas to the
    north, higher FFGs suggest flooding issues will be mostly contained
    to vulnerable areas, including urbanized centers.

    ...Northeast...

    The general consensus of the CAMs shows an area of showers and
    storms moving northeast well in advance of the system over the Ohio
    Valley. Supported by deepening moisture along a slow-moving
    boundary and increasing mid-to-upper level forcing, showers and
    storms will advance northeast across Pennsylvania, with repeating
    storms potentially resulting in locally heavy amounts from
    northeastern Pennsylvania into the lower Hudson Valley/NYC area. A
    A Marginal Risk was maintained for areas where the HREF shows
    higher probabilities for amounts over 2 inches and where FFGs are
    relatively lower.

    ...Southeastern Lower Michigan...

    An upper low closing off this morning is expected to remain
    centered over Lower Michigan into Thursday morning. Showers and
    storms are likely to develop east of the center, with relatively
    deeper moisture wrapping into the system raising the potential for
    locally heavy rainfall rates. A small Marginal Risk was
    introduced, highlighting the area where the HREF shows high
    probabilities for accumulations exceeding 2 inches.

    ...Central California...

    A slow-moving upper low currently offshore will drift north and
    begin moving inland Thursday morning. With anomalous moisture
    remaining in place (2.5-3 std dev above normal), locally heavy
    amounts will remain possible. Reflecting the high HREF
    probabilities for amounts over an inch, a Marginal Risk was
    maintained along the central California Coast from the Monterey
    Bay south and along the adjacent mountains.

    Pereira


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND FAR SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest to Sierra Nevada...

    After moving inland early Thursday, the closed low over central
    California is forecast to drop south into southern California by
    early Friday. With ample moisture remaining in place (2-3 std
    dev above normal) near and east of the upper center, locally heavy
    amounts are possible from the Sierra Nevada east into southern
    Nevada and southwestern Utah.

    As the center drops south, increasing southerly flow east of the
    low will draw deeper moisture up from Mexico, fueling widespread
    shower and thunderstorm coverage, especially across southeastern
    and central Arizona into southwestern New Mexico. A Slight Risk
    was maintained across this area where PWs are forecast to increase
    to 1-2 standard deviations above normal by the afternoon.

    ...Northeast...

    Unsettled weather developing Day 1 is forecast to continue into
    Thursday as showers and storms continue to develop ahead of the
    system lifting out of the Ohio Valley into the Northeast.
    Strengthening southwesterly flow along the Mid Atlantic coast into
    the Northeast will support deepening moisture (PWs increasing to ~2
    inches) and an increasing threat for heavy rainfall rates. A
    Marginal Risk was maintained from northern New Jersey into southern
    New England, where HREF probabilities indicate that localized
    amounts over 3 inches are possible late Thursday morning into the
    afternoon.

    ...Southern Appalachians...

    The consensus of the latest guidance indicates that showers and
    storms developing along and ahead of the cold front trailing the
    low moving through the Northeast will be generally progressive.
    With widespread heavy amounts not expected and FFGs high, the
    previous Marginal Risk was removed from much of the Mid Atlantic.
    However, some models do show the potential for training storms to
    produce some localized heavy amounts (2+ inches) across parts of
    the southern Appalachians, where a small Marginal Risk was
    maintained.

    Pereira


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest...

    A second day of numerous showers and storms is expected across the
    Southwest, especially for much of southeastern Arizona and parts of southwestern New Mexico. The upper low setting into southern
    California the previous period is expected to move little this day,
    remaining centered near the California/Mexico border. This will
    help to maintain anomalous moisture across the region, fueling
    widespread shower and thunderstorm coverage during the afternoon
    and evening hours. A Slight Risk, with a footprint similar to the
    Day 2 area, was maintained for Day 3 across parts of Arizona and
    New Mexico.

    ...Southeast...

    A boundary will remain in place across the Southeast as an upper
    trough evolves into a closed low that is forecast to linger beyond
    the period. Moisture and energy lifting ahead of the closing system
    will support periods of shower and storms. While the guidance at
    this point is not signaling any widespread heavy amounts, the
    pattern does lend itself to at least the threat for locally heavy
    amounts, which may raise at least isolated flooding concerns.

    Pereira

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!85yS_gHHnzXqyxgQt_fhXScJ1XWXrinD7B4VtLMbPcW7= L0HP2NNaLBjOQa_ks8Eqm1iNmQJvLmF3pikwl2cyj6Kwtl4$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!85yS_gHHnzXqyxgQt_fhXScJ1XWXrinD7B4VtLMbPcW7= L0HP2NNaLBjOQa_ks8Eqm1iNmQJvLmF3pikwl2cy6tLcAT0$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!85yS_gHHnzXqyxgQt_fhXScJ1XWXrinD7B4VtLMbPcW7= L0HP2NNaLBjOQa_ks8Eqm1iNmQJvLmF3pikwl2cyM4jMSdY$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 241626
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1226 PM EDT Wed Sep 24 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Wed Sep 24 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS THE
    TENNESSEE AND OHIO VALLEY REGIONS, ALONG WITH PARTS OF THE WESTERN
    GULF COAST INTO THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...

    ...Southern Plains to the Central and Southern Appalachians...

    ...1600 UTC Update...
    Based on the rainfall that has already fallen, along with the 12Z
    CAM guidance (including HREF probabilistic suite), have expanded
    the Slight Risk area to include western TN and more of the TN=20
    Valley (northeast MS, northern AL, and northwest GA). This=20
    expansion picks up on the enhanced HREF probabilities of 2+ inch/hr
    rainfall rates, along with the higher probs of exceeding 5.00"=20
    (isolated areas near 30 percent) through the remainder of the day 1
    period (through 12Z Thu).

    Meanwhile, have also expanded the Slight Risk area across parts of
    the Lower MS Valley to eastern TX and along much of the TX coast.
    This was a fairly sizable shift from the previous forecast, and=20
    was based largely from the latest (12Z) CAM guidance as well as=20 observational trends. While the coverage may be more isolated than=20 scattered, the thermodynamic parameters (high TPWs around 2" and=20
    mixed-layer CAPEs of 2000-2500 J/Kg) are optimal in maximizing the=20 precipitation efficiency. The latest CAMs, especially HREF=20
    probabilities, continue to show the potential for a "high-end"=20
    heavy rainfall event, again even if more isolated than scattered.=20
    Certainly enough to justify the more enhanced ERO risk (Slight vs.=20 Marginal). Within this expanded Slight Risk area, the 12Z HREF=20
    indicated probabilities have climbed to 40-50% in areas from=20
    northeast TX into southern AR-northern LA. In addition, 5+ inch=20 probabilities are now 50-60%+ across a small portion of south-=20
    central TX.=20

    ...Previous discussion...

    Composite radar this morning shows widespread showers and storms
    extending from the Ohio Valley back into the southern Plains. The
    overnight CAMs indicate that ongoing storms along the far eastern Oklahoma-Texas border into southern Arkansas will remain organized
    into the late morning as the drift slowly south, with training
    storms likely to produce heavy amounts across portions of
    northeastern Texas and northwestern Louisiana. Supported by
    shortwave energy moving through the base of a broader-scale
    positively-tilted upper trough and PWs at or above 2 inches, HREF
    probabilities indicate locally heavy amounts exceeding 3 inches are
    likely. However, dry soil conditions, reflected by high FFGs, are
    expected to limit the threat for widespread flooding concerns.

    As energy continues to move through the base of the upper trough,
    an area of low pressure is expected to become better organized and
    track northeast through the Ohio Valley beginning later this
    afternoon and continuing into the overnight. Deep southwesterly
    flow ahead of the wave will support increasing moisture, with PW
    anomalies increasing to over 2 std dev above normal per the GFS.
    Given the ongoing rains and relatively wetter soil conditions
    (lower FFGs), a Slight Risk extending from far northern Alabama to
    far southern Ohio and western West Virginia was maintained. HREF
    probabilities indicate that amounts of 1-2 inches will be common,
    with locally heavier amounts over 3 inches possible within the
    Slight Risk area.

    In the wake of the low, showers and storms producing heavier rates
    are expected along the trailing front as it sinks south through
    the lower Mississippi Valley and along the upper Texas coast back
    into South Texas. Here too, the HREF is indicating locally heavy
    amounts over 3 inches are likely. But similar to areas to the
    north, higher FFGs suggest flooding issues will be mostly contained
    to vulnerable areas, including urbanized centers.

    ...Northeast...

    The general consensus of the CAMs shows an area of showers and
    storms moving northeast well in advance of the system over the Ohio
    Valley. Supported by deepening moisture along a slow-moving
    boundary and increasing mid-to-upper level forcing, showers and
    storms will advance northeast across Pennsylvania, with repeating
    storms potentially resulting in locally heavy amounts from
    northeastern Pennsylvania into the Hudson Valley, parts of far
    western New England, and the NYC area. A A Marginal Risk was=20
    maintained for areas where the HREF shows higher probabilities for=20
    amounts over 2 inches and where FFGs are relatively lower.

    ...Central California...

    A slow-moving upper low currently offshore will drift north and
    begin moving inland Thursday morning. With anomalous moisture
    remaining in place (2.5-3 std dev above normal), locally heavy
    amounts will remain possible. Reflecting the high HREF
    probabilities for amounts over an inch, a Marginal Risk was
    maintained along the central California Coast from the Monterey
    Bay south and along the adjacent mountains.

    Hurley/Pereira


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND FAR SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest to Sierra Nevada...

    After moving inland early Thursday, the closed low over central
    California is forecast to drop south into southern California by
    early Friday. With ample moisture remaining in place (2-3 std
    dev above normal) near and east of the upper center, locally heavy
    amounts are possible from the Sierra Nevada east into southern
    Nevada and southwestern Utah.

    As the center drops south, increasing southerly flow east of the
    low will draw deeper moisture up from Mexico, fueling widespread
    shower and thunderstorm coverage, especially across southeastern
    and central Arizona into southwestern New Mexico. A Slight Risk
    was maintained across this area where PWs are forecast to increase
    to 1-2 standard deviations above normal by the afternoon.

    ...Northeast...

    Unsettled weather developing Day 1 is forecast to continue into
    Thursday as showers and storms continue to develop ahead of the
    system lifting out of the Ohio Valley into the Northeast.
    Strengthening southwesterly flow along the Mid Atlantic coast into
    the Northeast will support deepening moisture (PWs increasing to ~2
    inches) and an increasing threat for heavy rainfall rates. A
    Marginal Risk was maintained from northern New Jersey into southern
    New England, where HREF probabilities indicate that localized
    amounts over 3 inches are possible late Thursday morning into the
    afternoon.

    ...Southern Appalachians...

    The consensus of the latest guidance indicates that showers and
    storms developing along and ahead of the cold front trailing the
    low moving through the Northeast will be generally progressive.
    With widespread heavy amounts not expected and FFGs high, the
    previous Marginal Risk was removed from much of the Mid Atlantic.
    However, some models do show the potential for training storms to
    produce some localized heavy amounts (2+ inches) across parts of
    the southern Appalachians, where a small Marginal Risk was
    maintained.

    Pereira


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest...

    A second day of numerous showers and storms is expected across the
    Southwest, especially for much of southeastern Arizona and parts of southwestern New Mexico. The upper low setting into southern
    California the previous period is expected to move little this day,
    remaining centered near the California/Mexico border. This will
    help to maintain anomalous moisture across the region, fueling
    widespread shower and thunderstorm coverage during the afternoon
    and evening hours. A Slight Risk, with a footprint similar to the
    Day 2 area, was maintained for Day 3 across parts of Arizona and
    New Mexico.

    ...Southeast...

    A boundary will remain in place across the Southeast as an upper
    trough evolves into a closed low that is forecast to linger beyond
    the period. Moisture and energy lifting ahead of the closing system
    will support periods of shower and storms. While the guidance at
    this point is not signaling any widespread heavy amounts, the
    pattern does lend itself to at least the threat for locally heavy
    amounts, which may raise at least isolated flooding concerns.

    Pereira

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6IOgtnsNUs9Vul3LxDZK_cWnJhfkyR2n3cL3tfG8rVqf= do8bGqz74mG8lVEoGDXNcV-j6tkRha585SaABISHZInaJms$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6IOgtnsNUs9Vul3LxDZK_cWnJhfkyR2n3cL3tfG8rVqf= do8bGqz74mG8lVEoGDXNcV-j6tkRha585SaABISHl6XUVCA$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6IOgtnsNUs9Vul3LxDZK_cWnJhfkyR2n3cL3tfG8rVqf= do8bGqz74mG8lVEoGDXNcV-j6tkRha585SaABISHYu7MWmc$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Wed Sep 24 19:03:02 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 241902
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    302 PM EDT Wed Sep 24 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Wed Sep 24 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS THE
    TENNESSEE AND OHIO VALLEY REGIONS, ALONG WITH PARTS OF THE WESTERN
    GULF COAST INTO THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...

    ...Southern Plains to the Central and Southern Appalachians...

    ...1600 UTC Update...

    Based on the rainfall that has already fallen, along with the 12Z
    CAM guidance (including HREF probabilistic suite), have expanded
    the Slight Risk area to include western TN and more of the TN
    Valley (northeast MS, northern AL, and northwest GA). This
    expansion picks up on the enhanced HREF probabilities of 2+ inch/hr
    rainfall rates, along with the higher probs of exceeding 5.00"
    (isolated areas near 30 percent) through the remainder of the day 1
    period (through 12Z Thu).

    Meanwhile, have also expanded the Slight Risk area across parts of
    the Lower MS Valley to eastern TX and along much of the TX coast.
    This was a fairly sizable shift from the previous forecast, and
    was based largely from the latest (12Z) CAM guidance as well as
    observational trends. While the coverage may be more isolated than
    scattered, the thermodynamic parameters (high TPWs around 2" and
    mixed-layer CAPEs of 2000-2500 J/Kg) are optimal in maximizing the precipitation efficiency. The latest CAMs, especially HREF
    probabilities, continue to show the potential for a "high-end"
    heavy rainfall event, again even if more isolated than scattered.
    Certainly enough to justify the more enhanced ERO risk (Slight vs.
    Marginal). Within this expanded Slight Risk area, the 12Z HREF
    indicated probabilities have climbed to 40-50% in areas from
    northeast TX into southern AR-northern LA. In addition, 5+ inch
    probabilities are now 50-60%+ across a small portion of south-
    central TX.

    ...Previous discussion...

    Composite radar this morning shows widespread showers and storms
    extending from the Ohio Valley back into the southern Plains. The
    overnight CAMs indicate that ongoing storms along the far eastern Oklahoma-Texas border into southern Arkansas will remain organized
    into the late morning as the drift slowly south, with training
    storms likely to produce heavy amounts across portions of
    northeastern Texas and northwestern Louisiana. Supported by
    shortwave energy moving through the base of a broader-scale
    positively-tilted upper trough and PWs at or above 2 inches, HREF
    probabilities indicate locally heavy amounts exceeding 3 inches are
    likely. However, dry soil conditions, reflected by high FFGs, are
    expected to limit the threat for widespread flooding concerns.

    As energy continues to move through the base of the upper trough,
    an area of low pressure is expected to become better organized and
    track northeast through the Ohio Valley beginning later this
    afternoon and continuing into the overnight. Deep southwesterly
    flow ahead of the wave will support increasing moisture, with PW
    anomalies increasing to over 2 std dev above normal per the GFS.
    Given the ongoing rains and relatively wetter soil conditions
    (lower FFGs), a Slight Risk extending from far northern Alabama to
    far southern Ohio and western West Virginia was maintained. HREF
    probabilities indicate that amounts of 1-2 inches will be common,
    with locally heavier amounts over 3 inches possible within the
    Slight Risk area.

    In the wake of the low, showers and storms producing heavier rates
    are expected along the trailing front as it sinks south through
    the lower Mississippi Valley and along the upper Texas coast back
    into South Texas. Here too, the HREF is indicating locally heavy
    amounts over 3 inches are likely. But similar to areas to the
    north, higher FFGs suggest flooding issues will be mostly contained
    to vulnerable areas, including urbanized centers.

    ...Northeast...

    The general consensus of the CAMs shows an area of showers and
    storms moving northeast well in advance of the system over the Ohio
    Valley. Supported by deepening moisture along a slow-moving
    boundary and increasing mid-to-upper level forcing, showers and
    storms will advance northeast across Pennsylvania, with repeating
    storms potentially resulting in locally heavy amounts from
    northeastern Pennsylvania into the Hudson Valley, parts of far
    western New England, and the NYC area. A A Marginal Risk was
    maintained for areas where the HREF shows higher probabilities for
    amounts over 2 inches and where FFGs are relatively lower.

    ...Central California...

    A slow-moving upper low currently offshore will drift north and
    begin moving inland Thursday morning. With anomalous moisture
    remaining in place (2.5-3 std dev above normal), locally heavy
    amounts will remain possible. Reflecting the high HREF
    probabilities for amounts over an inch, a Marginal Risk was
    maintained along the central California Coast from the Monterey
    Bay south and along the adjacent mountains.

    Hurley/Pereira


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND FAR SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest to Sierra Nevada...

    After moving inland early Thursday, the closed low over central
    California is forecast to drop south into southern California by
    early Friday. With ample moisture remaining in place (2-3 std
    dev above normal) near and east of the upper center, locally heavy
    amounts are possible from the Sierra Nevada east into southern
    Nevada and southwestern Utah.

    As the center drops south, increasing southerly flow east of the
    low will draw deeper moisture up from Mexico, fueling widespread
    shower and thunderstorm coverage, especially across southeastern
    and central Arizona into southwestern New Mexico. A Slight Risk
    was maintained across this area where PWs are forecast to increase
    to 1-2 standard deviations above normal by the afternoon.

    ...Northeast...

    Unsettled weather developing Day 1 is forecast to continue into
    Thursday as showers and storms continue to develop ahead of the
    system lifting out of the Ohio Valley into the Northeast.
    Strengthening southwesterly flow along the Mid Atlantic coast into
    the Northeast will support deepening moisture (PWs increasing to ~2
    inches) and an increasing threat for heavy rainfall rates. A
    Marginal Risk was maintained from northern New Jersey into southern
    New England, where HREF probabilities indicate that localized
    amounts over 3 inches are possible late Thursday morning into the
    afternoon.

    ...Southern Appalachians into parts of the Southeast and Eastern=20
    Gulf Coast...

    ...2000 UTC Update...

    Amplifying mid-upper trough digging into the northwest and north-=20
    central Gulf Thu-Thu night will slow the eastward progression of=20
    the surface cold front and thus favorable pre-frontal buoyant=20
    airmass (ribbon of higher TPW and deep-layer instability). More=20
    protracted period of favorable low-level moisture transport ahead=20
    of the upper trough/surface front. 12Z HREF probabilities depict
    this idea well, with several hours of spotty areas with enhanced=20
    probs for 1-2+ in/hr rainfall rates. Therefore, supported by the
    latest CSU UFVS-verified ERO First-Guess field, have expanded the
    Marginal Risk south to the MS-AL-western FL Panhandle Gulf Coast.=20


    ...Previous Discussion...

    The consensus of the latest guidance indicates that showers and
    storms developing along and ahead of the cold front trailing the
    low moving through the Northeast will be generally progressive.
    With widespread heavy amounts not expected and FFGs high, the
    previous Marginal Risk was removed from much of the Mid Atlantic.
    However, some models do show the potential for training storms to
    produce some localized heavy amounts (2+ inches) across parts of
    the southern Appalachians, where a small Marginal Risk was
    maintained.

    Hurley/Pereira


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest...

    A second day of numerous showers and storms is expected across the
    Southwest, especially for much of southeastern Arizona and parts of southwestern New Mexico. The upper low setting into southern
    California the previous period is expected to move little this day,
    remaining centered near the California/Mexico border. This will
    help to maintain anomalous moisture across the region, fueling
    widespread shower and thunderstorm coverage during the afternoon
    and evening hours. A Slight Risk, with a footprint similar to the
    Day 2 area, was maintained for Day 3 across parts of Arizona and
    New Mexico.

    ...Southeast...

    A boundary will remain in place across the Southeast as an upper
    trough evolves into a closed low that is forecast to linger beyond
    the period. Moisture and energy lifting ahead of the closing system
    will support periods of shower and storms. While the guidance at
    this point is not signaling any widespread heavy amounts, the
    pattern does lend itself to at least the threat for locally heavy
    amounts, which may raise at least isolated flooding concerns.

    Pereira

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7h4VVW7j7L5JsErW2RNQmscZ04LZff35tUvNiuqwwR1X= Ab5Lcbz3WllKKKh2XWXbxH3PmOkY19s6T_hRas36BwJgqKg$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7h4VVW7j7L5JsErW2RNQmscZ04LZff35tUvNiuqwwR1X= Ab5Lcbz3WllKKKh2XWXbxH3PmOkY19s6T_hRas36N8rbaAc$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7h4VVW7j7L5JsErW2RNQmscZ04LZff35tUvNiuqwwR1X= Ab5Lcbz3WllKKKh2XWXbxH3PmOkY19s6T_hRas36NAnUHvc$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 250046
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    846 PM EDT Wed Sep 24 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Thu Sep 25 2025 - 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR THE OHIO=20
    VALLEY AND PORTIONS OF SOUTH TEXAS...

    ...01Z Update...

    ...Ohio and Tennessee Valleys...

    Rain associated with a pair of disturbances is developing across
    the lower Ohio Valley this evening. The locally heavy rain
    associated with embedded convection will spread northeast up the
    Ohio Valley, where rain from recent days has moistened the soils
    somewhat. Thus, the Slight Risk was adjusted north, but remains in
    place for the potential for widely scattered instances of flash
    flooding. Further south into the Tennessee Valley the rain is
    generally more progressive, less widespread, and there are large
    areas with no rain occurring. Those areas have been dropped down to
    a Marginal with this update.

    ...South Texas...

    Developing convection along a cold frontal interface is expected to
    become more widespread overnight, though model agreement on how
    that convection behaves once formed is poor. The frontal interface
    will likely be where the most persistent convection forms and
    remains before likely pushing south into the heat and instability
    in place across Deep South Texas. Thus, the rather narrow corridor
    from Corpus Christi on the coast to Laredo on the Rio Grande is=20
    likely where the highest chances for flash flooding will be through
    tonight.

    Wegman


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND FAR SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest to Sierra Nevada...

    After moving inland early Thursday, the closed low over central
    California is forecast to drop south into southern California by
    early Friday. With ample moisture remaining in place (2-3 std
    dev above normal) near and east of the upper center, locally heavy
    amounts are possible from the Sierra Nevada east into southern
    Nevada and southwestern Utah.

    As the center drops south, increasing southerly flow east of the
    low will draw deeper moisture up from Mexico, fueling widespread
    shower and thunderstorm coverage, especially across southeastern
    and central Arizona into southwestern New Mexico. A Slight Risk
    was maintained across this area where PWs are forecast to increase
    to 1-2 standard deviations above normal by the afternoon.

    ...Northeast...

    Unsettled weather developing Day 1 is forecast to continue into
    Thursday as showers and storms continue to develop ahead of the
    system lifting out of the Ohio Valley into the Northeast.
    Strengthening southwesterly flow along the Mid Atlantic coast into
    the Northeast will support deepening moisture (PWs increasing to ~2
    inches) and an increasing threat for heavy rainfall rates. A
    Marginal Risk was maintained from northern New Jersey into southern
    New England, where HREF probabilities indicate that localized
    amounts over 3 inches are possible late Thursday morning into the
    afternoon.

    ...Southern Appalachians into parts of the Southeast and Eastern
    Gulf Coast...

    ...2000 UTC Update...

    Amplifying mid-upper trough digging into the northwest and north-
    central Gulf Thu-Thu night will slow the eastward progression of
    the surface cold front and thus favorable pre-frontal buoyant
    airmass (ribbon of higher TPW and deep-layer instability). More
    protracted period of favorable low-level moisture transport ahead
    of the upper trough/surface front. 12Z HREF probabilities depict
    this idea well, with several hours of spotty areas with enhanced
    probs for 1-2+ in/hr rainfall rates. Therefore, supported by the
    latest CSU UFVS-verified ERO First-Guess field, have expanded the
    Marginal Risk south to the MS-AL-western FL Panhandle Gulf Coast.


    ...Previous Discussion...

    The consensus of the latest guidance indicates that showers and
    storms developing along and ahead of the cold front trailing the
    low moving through the Northeast will be generally progressive.
    With widespread heavy amounts not expected and FFGs high, the
    previous Marginal Risk was removed from much of the Mid Atlantic.
    However, some models do show the potential for training storms to
    produce some localized heavy amounts (2+ inches) across parts of
    the southern Appalachians, where a small Marginal Risk was
    maintained.

    Hurley/Pereira


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest...

    A second day of numerous showers and storms is expected across the
    Southwest, especially for much of southeastern Arizona and parts of southwestern New Mexico. The upper low setting into southern
    California the previous period is expected to move little this day,
    remaining centered near the California/Mexico border. This will
    help to maintain anomalous moisture across the region, fueling
    widespread shower and thunderstorm coverage during the afternoon
    and evening hours. A Slight Risk, with a footprint similar to the
    Day 2 area, was maintained for Day 3 across parts of Arizona and
    New Mexico.

    ...Southeast...

    A boundary will remain in place across the Southeast as an upper
    trough evolves into a closed low that is forecast to linger beyond
    the period. Moisture and energy lifting ahead of the closing system
    will support periods of shower and storms. While the guidance at
    this point is not signaling any widespread heavy amounts, the
    pattern does lend itself to at least the threat for locally heavy
    amounts, which may raise at least isolated flooding concerns.

    Pereira

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4QDYoBFeNMOd1Ld9bCQPgYzlRQX5emLDwLwCBoyFY48R= Clcn8tnCyqBzBMMpEAOMrOQUBya-8ZfpL6lqWvLjXgO07DA$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4QDYoBFeNMOd1Ld9bCQPgYzlRQX5emLDwLwCBoyFY48R= Clcn8tnCyqBzBMMpEAOMrOQUBya-8ZfpL6lqWvLjv9146VM$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4QDYoBFeNMOd1Ld9bCQPgYzlRQX5emLDwLwCBoyFY48R= Clcn8tnCyqBzBMMpEAOMrOQUBya-8ZfpL6lqWvLjPA8nWGM$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 250744
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    344 AM EDT Thu Sep 25 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Thu Sep 25 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND FAR SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest to Sierra Nevada...
    A cold low near the central California coast is forecast to drop=20
    southeast into southern California by early Friday. With cold air=20
    aloft overlying sufficient moisture near and east of the upper=20
    center, locally heavy amounts are possible from the Sierra Nevada=20
    east into southern Nevada and southwestern Utah.

    Ahead of the system, increasing southerly flow will draw deeper=20
    moisture into the Southwest from the Gulf of CA, fueling=20
    widespread shower and thunderstorm coverage, especially across=20
    southeastern and central Arizona into southwestern New Mexico. ML=20
    CAPE should rise into the 1000-2000 J/kg range. A Slight Risk was=20
    maintained across this area where cold air aloft interacts with=20
    monsoon-like moisture, with precipitable water values as high as=20
    1.25-1.5". Hourly rain amounts to 2" are possible where cells merge
    and/or train.


    ...Northeast/Upper Ohio Valley...
    Unsettled weather at the present time is forecast to continue into
    Thursday as showers and storms stream east across the Upper Ohio
    Valley, WV, and southwest PA ahead of a shortwave aloft and surface
    frontal wave. While there may be a gap in heavy rainfall between=20
    this region and points farther east, chose to connect the areas=20
    and significantly broaden the inherited Marginal Risk.=20
    Strengthening southwesterly flow along the Mid Atlantic coast into=20
    the Northeast will support deepening moisture (PWs increasing to=20
    ~2") and ML CAPE surpasses 1000 J/kg. Hourly amounts to 2.5" are=20
    possible in this region with local totals to 4", but coverage of
    such amounts should be sparse enough for a Marginal Risk to still
    apply.


    ...Southern Appalachians into parts of the Gulf Coast...
    Amplifying mid-upper trough digging into the northwest and north-=20
    central Gulf will slow the south and east progression of the=20
    surface cold front and pre-frontal buoyant airmass. ML CAPE values
    should rise to 1000 J/kg or so across the southernmost=20
    Appalachians while areas of the Gulf Coast see 2000-3000 J/kg of ML
    CAPE. With precipitable water values at or above 2", hourly rain=20
    amounts to 2.5" with local totals to 4" are possible wherever short
    periods of training or cell mergers are able to occur. Activity=20
    currently across South TX should survive past 12z, so looped the=20
    Marginal Risk to encompass this area. At the present time, any
    flash flood issues are expected to be isolated to widely scattered.

    Roth


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest...
    Numerous showers and thunderstorms are expected across the=20
    Southwest, especially for much of southeastern Arizona and parts of southwestern New Mexico. An upper low should slow to a crawl=20
    across southeast California. Precipitable water values should=20
    remain as high as 1.25-1.5" in spots, but the guidance shows more=20
    potential on the ML CAPE front when compared to Thursday, with=20
    values of 2000-3000 J/kg possible as available moisture interacts=20
    with the cold pool aloft. Widespread shower and thunderstorm=20
    coverage is expected, particularly during the afternoon and evening
    hours. A Slight Risk, with a footprint similar to the Day 2 area,=20
    was maintained for Day 3 across parts of Arizona and New Mexico,=20
    but it could be higher end Slight Risk. Hourly rain amounts to 2"=20
    are possible where cells merge and/or train.

    ...Southeast...
    A boundary will remain in place as a cold low forms near the base
    of an upper level trough, a feature that lingers for a while near
    the Southern Appalachians. Moisture and instability lifting ahead=20
    of the closing system will support periods of showers and storms.=20 Precipitable water values of up to 2" with ML CAPE to 1000 J/kg=20
    across the Piedmont and 2000-3000 J/kg in coastal areas are=20
    expected, which could yield hourly rain amounts to 2.5" and local=20
    totals to 4".

    Roth


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF FAR
    WEST TEXAS & NEW MEXICO...

    Southwest/Southern Rockies...
    An upper low remains fixed across the Lower Colorado River while=20
    Gulf Moisture streams into the TX Big Bend and New Mexico, moving=20
    up the Rio Grande. Precipitable water values of 1.25-1.5" are=20
    forecast, which when combined with up to 1000 J/kg of ML CAPE could
    yield hourly amounts to 2.5" and local totals to 4" where cells=20
    train and/or merge. Believe the risk level from continuity (Slight)
    conveys the risk appropriately at this time for portions of far=20
    west TX and NM. Closer to the upper level center across the=20
    Southwest, slow-moving convection is possible under the cold pool=20
    aloft. Based on the decline of the 1000-500 hPa thickness across UT
    towards 5670 meters, limited the northern extent of the Marginal=20
    Risk to southern UT which is about the northern extent of the 0.75" precipitable water value, which was coordinated with the SLC/Salt=20
    Lake City forecast office.


    Carolinas/Southern Mid-Atlantic States...
    Divergence aloft around the eastern periphery of a cold low near=20
    the Southern Appalachians maintains precipitable water values of=20
    2"+ near the coast, which should also see the greatest instability,
    up to 1000 J/kg. The guidance shows a bit of dispersion here in=20 placement/northeast movement of the heavy rain area with the GFS=20
    and NAM in their usual camps (fast and slow, respectively). Hourly
    rain amounts to 2.5" and local totals to 4" are expected, similar=20
    to previous days. Forecast uncertainty, as much as anything else,
    maintained the risk level as a Marginal. Should the guidance
    converge, areas of risk overlap between Friday and Saturday across
    portions of the coastal plain of the Carolinas could see an upgrade
    to a Slight Risk at some point as we get closer to Saturday.

    Roth


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8d6S6hXccTsH19rRH0Qi33rV8GxukYYaBJ1hptk_YTN2= AWJBYiyy2bTfeMod-9cDlmloi4Pv0WJhyUPQNkA4bHetHY4$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8d6S6hXccTsH19rRH0Qi33rV8GxukYYaBJ1hptk_YTN2= AWJBYiyy2bTfeMod-9cDlmloi4Pv0WJhyUPQNkA4iTG57mM$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8d6S6hXccTsH19rRH0Qi33rV8GxukYYaBJ1hptk_YTN2= AWJBYiyy2bTfeMod-9cDlmloi4Pv0WJhyUPQNkA4OZkyHfw$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Thu Sep 25 15:59:07 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 251558
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1158 AM EDT Thu Sep 25 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Thu Sep 25 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND FAR SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO, ALONG WITH PARTS OF EASTERN
    CALIFORNIA INTO WESTERN NEVADA...

    ...Southwest to Sierra Nevada...

    ...1600 UTC Update...

    Per collaboration with affected WFOs, have hoisted a Slight Risk
    area across the central Sierra (south of Lake Tahoe) into parts of
    western NV. This was based on some of the guidance trends,
    including the 06Z HREF and RRFS ensembles, and continuing with the
    12Z CAMs. The 12Z HREF Z HREF probs of 0.50+ in/hr rates are aoa=20
    70% between 19-03Z this evening, while probs of 3-hourly QPF=20
    exceeding 3-hourly FFG top out between 40-50%, which is impressive.

    ...Previous discussion...

    A cold low near the central California coast is forecast to drop
    southeast into southern California by early Friday. With cold air
    aloft overlying sufficient moisture near and east of the upper
    center, locally heavy amounts are possible from the Sierra Nevada
    east into southern Nevada and southwestern Utah.

    Ahead of the system, increasing southerly flow will draw deeper
    moisture into the Southwest from the Gulf of CA, fueling
    widespread shower and thunderstorm coverage, especially across
    southeastern and central Arizona into southwestern New Mexico. ML
    CAPE should rise into the 1000-2000 J/kg range. A Slight Risk was
    maintained across this area where cold air aloft interacts with
    monsoon-like moisture, with precipitable water values as high as
    1.25-1.5". Hourly rain amounts to 2" are possible where cells merge
    and/or train.


    ...Northeast/Upper Ohio Valley...
    Unsettled weather at the present time is forecast to continue into
    Thursday as showers and storms stream east across the Upper Ohio
    Valley, WV, and southwest PA ahead of a shortwave aloft and surface
    frontal wave. While there may be a gap in heavy rainfall between
    this region and points farther east, chose to connect the areas
    and significantly broaden the inherited Marginal Risk.
    Strengthening southwesterly flow along the Mid Atlantic coast into
    the Northeast will support deepening moisture (PWs increasing to
    ~2") and ML CAPE surpasses 1000 J/kg. Hourly amounts to 2.5" are
    possible in this region with local totals to 4", but coverage of
    such amounts should be sparse enough for a Marginal Risk to still
    apply.


    ...Southern Appalachians into parts of the Gulf Coast...
    Amplifying mid-upper trough digging into the northwest and north-
    central Gulf will slow the south and east progression of the
    surface cold front and pre-frontal buoyant airmass. ML CAPE values
    should rise to 1000 J/kg or so across the southernmost
    Appalachians while areas of the Gulf Coast see 2000-3000 J/kg of ML
    CAPE. With precipitable water values at or above 2", hourly rain
    amounts to 2.5" with local totals to 4" are possible wherever short
    periods of training or cell mergers are able to occur. Activity
    currently across South TX should survive past 12z, so looped the
    Marginal Risk to encompass this area. At the present time, any
    flash flood issues are expected to be isolated to widely scattered.

    Roth


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest...
    Numerous showers and thunderstorms are expected across the
    Southwest, especially for much of southeastern Arizona and parts of southwestern New Mexico. An upper low should slow to a crawl
    across southeast California. Precipitable water values should
    remain as high as 1.25-1.5" in spots, but the guidance shows more
    potential on the ML CAPE front when compared to Thursday, with
    values of 2000-3000 J/kg possible as available moisture interacts
    with the cold pool aloft. Widespread shower and thunderstorm
    coverage is expected, particularly during the afternoon and evening
    hours. A Slight Risk, with a footprint similar to the Day 2 area,
    was maintained for Day 3 across parts of Arizona and New Mexico,
    but it could be higher end Slight Risk. Hourly rain amounts to 2"
    are possible where cells merge and/or train.

    ...Southeast...
    A boundary will remain in place as a cold low forms near the base
    of an upper level trough, a feature that lingers for a while near
    the Southern Appalachians. Moisture and instability lifting ahead
    of the closing system will support periods of showers and storms.
    Precipitable water values of up to 2" with ML CAPE to 1000 J/kg
    across the Piedmont and 2000-3000 J/kg in coastal areas are
    expected, which could yield hourly rain amounts to 2.5" and local
    totals to 4".

    Roth


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF FAR
    WEST TEXAS & NEW MEXICO...

    Southwest/Southern Rockies...
    An upper low remains fixed across the Lower Colorado River while
    Gulf Moisture streams into the TX Big Bend and New Mexico, moving
    up the Rio Grande. Precipitable water values of 1.25-1.5" are
    forecast, which when combined with up to 1000 J/kg of ML CAPE could
    yield hourly amounts to 2.5" and local totals to 4" where cells
    train and/or merge. Believe the risk level from continuity (Slight)
    conveys the risk appropriately at this time for portions of far
    west TX and NM. Closer to the upper level center across the
    Southwest, slow-moving convection is possible under the cold pool
    aloft. Based on the decline of the 1000-500 hPa thickness across UT
    towards 5670 meters, limited the northern extent of the Marginal
    Risk to southern UT which is about the northern extent of the 0.75" precipitable water value, which was coordinated with the SLC/Salt
    Lake City forecast office.


    Carolinas/Southern Mid-Atlantic States...
    Divergence aloft around the eastern periphery of a cold low near
    the Southern Appalachians maintains precipitable water values of
    2"+ near the coast, which should also see the greatest instability,
    up to 1000 J/kg. The guidance shows a bit of dispersion here in placement/northeast movement of the heavy rain area with the GFS
    and NAM in their usual camps (fast and slow, respectively). Hourly
    rain amounts to 2.5" and local totals to 4" are expected, similar
    to previous days. Forecast uncertainty, as much as anything else,
    maintained the risk level as a Marginal. Should the guidance
    converge, areas of risk overlap between Friday and Saturday across
    portions of the coastal plain of the Carolinas could see an upgrade
    to a Slight Risk at some point as we get closer to Saturday.

    Roth


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5Tqu12PgsKTP4SrXRi0HHmNGrgquFsh7PveHA1GRB2ab= e6avY1VTV7Mpxt0LZe9v8I-z_t5o3mbeDtjolqO7Sq3Zl00$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5Tqu12PgsKTP4SrXRi0HHmNGrgquFsh7PveHA1GRB2ab= e6avY1VTV7Mpxt0LZe9v8I-z_t5o3mbeDtjolqO7Uxmygm0$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5Tqu12PgsKTP4SrXRi0HHmNGrgquFsh7PveHA1GRB2ab= e6avY1VTV7Mpxt0LZe9v8I-z_t5o3mbeDtjolqO7CxXHzDw$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Thu Sep 25 16:00:10 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 251559
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1159 AM EDT Thu Sep 25 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Thu Sep 25 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND FAR SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO, ALONG WITH PARTS OF EASTERN
    CALIFORNIA INTO WESTERN NEVADA...

    ...Southwest to Sierra Nevada...

    ...1600 UTC Update...

    Per collaboration with affected WFOs, have hoisted a Slight Risk
    area across the central Sierra (south of Lake Tahoe) into parts of
    western NV. This was based on some of the guidance trends,
    including the 06Z HREF and RRFS ensembles, and continuing with the
    12Z CAMs. The 12Z HREF Z HREF probs of 0.50+ in/hr rates are aoa
    70% between 19-03Z this evening, while probs of 3-hourly QPF
    exceeding 3-hourly FFG top out between 40-50%, which is impressive.

    ...Previous discussion...

    A cold low near the central California coast is forecast to drop
    southeast into southern California by early Friday. With cold air
    aloft overlying sufficient moisture near and east of the upper
    center, locally heavy amounts are possible from the Sierra Nevada
    east into southern Nevada and southwestern Utah.

    Ahead of the system, increasing southerly flow will draw deeper
    moisture into the Southwest from the Gulf of CA, fueling
    widespread shower and thunderstorm coverage, especially across
    southeastern and central Arizona into southwestern New Mexico. ML
    CAPE should rise into the 1000-2000 J/kg range. A Slight Risk was
    maintained across this area where cold air aloft interacts with
    monsoon-like moisture, with precipitable water values as high as
    1.25-1.5". Hourly rain amounts to 2" are possible where cells merge
    and/or train.


    ...Northeast/Upper Ohio Valley...
    Unsettled weather at the present time is forecast to continue into
    Thursday as showers and storms stream east across the Upper Ohio
    Valley, WV, and southwest PA ahead of a shortwave aloft and surface
    frontal wave. While there may be a gap in heavy rainfall between
    this region and points farther east, chose to connect the areas
    and significantly broaden the inherited Marginal Risk.
    Strengthening southwesterly flow along the Mid Atlantic coast into
    the Northeast will support deepening moisture (PWs increasing to
    ~2") and ML CAPE surpasses 1000 J/kg. Hourly amounts to 2.5" are
    possible in this region with local totals to 4", but coverage of
    such amounts should be sparse enough for a Marginal Risk to still
    apply.


    ...Southern Appalachians into parts of the Gulf Coast...
    Amplifying mid-upper trough digging into the northwest and north-
    central Gulf will slow the south and east progression of the
    surface cold front and pre-frontal buoyant airmass. ML CAPE values
    should rise to 1000 J/kg or so across the southernmost
    Appalachians while areas of the Gulf Coast see 2000-3000 J/kg of ML
    CAPE. With precipitable water values at or above 2", hourly rain
    amounts to 2.5" with local totals to 4" are possible wherever short
    periods of training or cell mergers are able to occur. At the=20
    present time, any flash flood issues are expected to be isolated to
    widely scattered.

    Roth


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest...
    Numerous showers and thunderstorms are expected across the
    Southwest, especially for much of southeastern Arizona and parts of southwestern New Mexico. An upper low should slow to a crawl
    across southeast California. Precipitable water values should
    remain as high as 1.25-1.5" in spots, but the guidance shows more
    potential on the ML CAPE front when compared to Thursday, with
    values of 2000-3000 J/kg possible as available moisture interacts
    with the cold pool aloft. Widespread shower and thunderstorm
    coverage is expected, particularly during the afternoon and evening
    hours. A Slight Risk, with a footprint similar to the Day 2 area,
    was maintained for Day 3 across parts of Arizona and New Mexico,
    but it could be higher end Slight Risk. Hourly rain amounts to 2"
    are possible where cells merge and/or train.

    ...Southeast...
    A boundary will remain in place as a cold low forms near the base
    of an upper level trough, a feature that lingers for a while near
    the Southern Appalachians. Moisture and instability lifting ahead
    of the closing system will support periods of showers and storms.
    Precipitable water values of up to 2" with ML CAPE to 1000 J/kg
    across the Piedmont and 2000-3000 J/kg in coastal areas are
    expected, which could yield hourly rain amounts to 2.5" and local
    totals to 4".

    Roth


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF FAR
    WEST TEXAS & NEW MEXICO...

    Southwest/Southern Rockies...
    An upper low remains fixed across the Lower Colorado River while
    Gulf Moisture streams into the TX Big Bend and New Mexico, moving
    up the Rio Grande. Precipitable water values of 1.25-1.5" are
    forecast, which when combined with up to 1000 J/kg of ML CAPE could
    yield hourly amounts to 2.5" and local totals to 4" where cells
    train and/or merge. Believe the risk level from continuity (Slight)
    conveys the risk appropriately at this time for portions of far
    west TX and NM. Closer to the upper level center across the
    Southwest, slow-moving convection is possible under the cold pool
    aloft. Based on the decline of the 1000-500 hPa thickness across UT
    towards 5670 meters, limited the northern extent of the Marginal
    Risk to southern UT which is about the northern extent of the 0.75" precipitable water value, which was coordinated with the SLC/Salt
    Lake City forecast office.


    Carolinas/Southern Mid-Atlantic States...
    Divergence aloft around the eastern periphery of a cold low near
    the Southern Appalachians maintains precipitable water values of
    2"+ near the coast, which should also see the greatest instability,
    up to 1000 J/kg. The guidance shows a bit of dispersion here in placement/northeast movement of the heavy rain area with the GFS
    and NAM in their usual camps (fast and slow, respectively). Hourly
    rain amounts to 2.5" and local totals to 4" are expected, similar
    to previous days. Forecast uncertainty, as much as anything else,
    maintained the risk level as a Marginal. Should the guidance
    converge, areas of risk overlap between Friday and Saturday across
    portions of the coastal plain of the Carolinas could see an upgrade
    to a Slight Risk at some point as we get closer to Saturday.

    Roth


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5rFIq1evtVlwy1YC8dPM6VZyWSFgQI-8Dro3_N3WA49_= snStVkXqJPbLL755PAet-tPqsJqaq4oTD5PU6_EEE5LXC0o$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5rFIq1evtVlwy1YC8dPM6VZyWSFgQI-8Dro3_N3WA49_= snStVkXqJPbLL755PAet-tPqsJqaq4oTD5PU6_EEQ4VMtUQ$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5rFIq1evtVlwy1YC8dPM6VZyWSFgQI-8Dro3_N3WA49_= snStVkXqJPbLL755PAet-tPqsJqaq4oTD5PU6_EEXceNI-k$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Thu Sep 25 19:48:00 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 251947
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    347 PM EDT Thu Sep 25 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Thu Sep 25 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND FAR SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO, ALONG WITH PARTS OF EASTERN
    CALIFORNIA INTO WESTERN NEVADA...

    ...Southwest to Sierra Nevada...

    ...1600 UTC Update...
    Per collaboration with affected WFOs, have hoisted a Slight Risk=20
    area across the central Sierra (south of Lake Tahoe) into parts of=20
    western NV. This was based on some of the guidance trends,=20
    including the 06Z HREF and RRFS ensembles, and continuing with the=20
    12Z CAMs. The 12Z HREF Z HREF probs of 0.50+ in/hr rates are aoa=20
    70% between 19-03Z this evening, while probs of 3-hourly QPF=20
    exceeding 3-hourly FFG top out between 40-50%, which is impressive.

    ...Previous discussion...
    A cold low near the central California coast is forecast to drop=20
    southeast into southern California by early Friday. With cold air=20
    aloft overlying sufficient moisture near and east of the upper=20
    center, locally heavy amounts are possible from the Sierra Nevada=20
    east into southern Nevada and southwestern Utah.

    Ahead of the system, increasing southerly flow will draw deeper
    moisture into the Southwest from the Gulf of CA, fueling
    widespread shower and thunderstorm coverage, especially across
    southeastern and central Arizona into southwestern New Mexico. ML
    CAPE should rise into the 1000-2000 J/kg range. A Slight Risk was
    maintained across this area where cold air aloft interacts with
    monsoon-like moisture, with precipitable water values as high as
    1.25-1.5". Hourly rain amounts to 2" are possible where cells merge
    and/or train.

    ...Northeast/Upper Ohio Valley...
    Unsettled weather at the present time is forecast to continue into
    Thursday as showers and storms stream east across the Upper Ohio=20
    Valley, WV, and southwest PA ahead of a shortwave aloft and surface
    frontal wave. While there may be a gap in heavy rainfall between=20
    this region and points farther east, chose to connect the areas and significantly broaden the inherited Marginal Risk. Strengthening=20 southwesterly flow along the Mid Atlantic coast into the Northeast=20
    will support deepening moisture (PWs increasing to ~2") and ML CAPE
    surpasses 1000 J/kg. Hourly amounts to 2.5" are possible in this=20
    region with local totals to 4", but coverage of such amounts should
    be sparse enough for a Marginal Risk to still apply.

    ...Southern Appalachians into parts of the Gulf Coast...
    Amplifying mid-upper trough digging into the northwest and north-=20
    central Gulf will slow the south and east progression of the=20
    surface cold front and pre-frontal buoyant airmass. ML CAPE values=20
    should rise to 1000 J/kg or so across the southernmost Appalachians
    while areas of the Gulf Coast see 2000-3000 J/kg of ML CAPE. With=20 precipitable water values at or above 2", hourly rain amounts to=20
    2.5" with local totals to 4" are possible wherever short periods of
    training or cell mergers are able to occur. At the present time,=20
    any flash flood issues are expected to be isolated to widely=20
    scattered.

    Hurley/Roth


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest...

    ...2000 UTC Update...
    At most, only minor changes made to the Day 2 ERO. Most notably,=20
    we expanded the Slight Risk area slightly westward, which now=20
    includes the Phoenix metro region and is closer to to Prescott and=20 Flagstaff. This is based on the latest (more elevated_ HREF and=20
    RRFS rainfall exceedance probabilities for Friday afternoon and=20
    evening, especially the probs for 0.50-1.00+ in/hr rainfall, along=20
    with the probs of 3-hourly rainfall exceeding current 3-hour FFG=20
    40% within the Slight Risk area between 20-03Z).

    ...Previous Discussion...
    Numerous showers and thunderstorms are expected across the=20
    Southwest, especially for much of southeastern Arizona and parts of southwestern New Mexico. An upper low should slow to a crawl=20
    across southeast California. Precipitable water values should=20
    remain as high as 1.25-1.5" in spots, but the guidance shows more=20
    potential on the ML CAPE front when compared to Thursday, with=20
    values of 2000-3000 J/kg possible as available moisture interacts=20
    with the cold pool aloft. Widespread shower and thunderstorm=20
    coverage is expected, particularly during the afternoon and evening
    hours. A Slight Risk, with a footprint similar to the Day 2 area,=20
    was maintained for Day 3 across parts of Arizona and New Mexico,=20
    but it could be higher end Slight Risk. Hourly rain amounts to 2"=20
    are possible where cells merge and/or train.

    ...Southeast...
    A boundary will remain in place as a cold low forms near the base=20
    of an upper level trough, a feature that lingers for a while near=20
    the Southern Appalachians. Moisture and instability lifting ahead=20
    of the closing system will support periods of showers and storms.=20 Precipitable water values of up to 2" with ML CAPE to 1000 J/kg=20
    across the Piedmont and 2000-3000 J/kg in coastal areas are=20
    expected, which could yield hourly rain amounts to 2.5" and local=20
    totals to 4".

    Roth


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF FAR
    WEST TEXAS & NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest/Southern Rockies...

    ...2000 UTC Update...
    Expanded the Slight Risk area across NM, particularly northwest=20
    NM, based on the latest (12Z) deterministic and probabilistic=20
    guidance trends with the deepening low eventually cutting over=20
    southeast CA/southwest AZ by Saturday. Model QPFs seem to be=20
    convergence, which is boosting confidence to expand the Slight=20
    farther north toward the NM-CO border. The area also aligns with=20
    where the ECMWF and GFS show highest MUCAPEs (at least 500 J/Kg).=20

    ...Previous Discussion...
    An upper low remains fixed across the Lower Colorado River while=20
    Gulf Moisture streams into the TX Big Bend and New Mexico, moving=20
    up the Rio Grande. Precipitable water values of 1.25-1.5" are=20
    forecast, which when combined with up to 1000 J/kg of ML CAPE could
    yield hourly amounts to 2.5" and local totals to 4" where cells=20
    train and/or merge. Believe the risk level from continuity (Slight)
    conveys the risk appropriately at this time for portions of far=20
    west TX and NM. Closer to the upper level center across the=20
    Southwest, slow-moving convection is possible under the cold pool=20
    aloft. Based on the decline of the 1000-500 hPa thickness across UT
    towards 5670 meters, limited the northern extent of the Marginal=20
    Risk to southern UT which is about the northern extent of the 0.75" precipitable water value, which was coordinated with the SLC/Salt=20
    Lake City forecast office.

    ...Carolinas/Southern Mid-Atlantic States...

    ...2000 UTC Update...
    Minimal changes made to the previous Day 3 ERO in this area. Still
    cannot rule an upgrade to a Slight Risk somewhere over the Coastal
    Plain from SC-VA (see previous discussion); however, the guidance=20
    spread with respect to the QPF remains quite a bit high at this=20
    time to include a targeted Slight Risk area.

    ...Previous Discussion...
    Divergence aloft around the eastern periphery of a cold low near=20
    the Southern Appalachians maintains precipitable water values of=20
    2"+ near the coast, which should also see the greatest instability,
    up to 1000 J/kg. The guidance shows a bit of dispersion here in=20 placement/northeast movement of the heavy rain area with the GFS=20
    and NAM in their usual camps (fast and slow, respectively). Hourly=20
    rain amounts to 2.5" and local totals to 4" are expected, similar=20
    to previous days. Forecast uncertainty, as much as anything else,=20
    maintained the risk level as a Marginal. Should the guidance=20
    converge, areas of risk overlap between Friday and Saturday across=20
    portions of the coastal plain of the Carolinas could see an upgrade
    to a Slight Risk at some point as we get closer to Saturday.

    Hurley/Roth


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-h3bSQrJyfY3Z5jDR128vyuG0vaHTpcJTNKqqKe1_Lo_= UUO6AwusAYuGLUenFtvOVVvse12ErqsVBQJ1leSktUVghXA$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-h3bSQrJyfY3Z5jDR128vyuG0vaHTpcJTNKqqKe1_Lo_= UUO6AwusAYuGLUenFtvOVVvse12ErqsVBQJ1leSk1-OEGKs$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-h3bSQrJyfY3Z5jDR128vyuG0vaHTpcJTNKqqKe1_Lo_= UUO6AwusAYuGLUenFtvOVVvse12ErqsVBQJ1leSkF5k59XU$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Fri Sep 26 00:38:23 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 260038
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    838 PM EDT Thu Sep 25 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Fri Sep 26 2025 - 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND FAR SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO, ALONG WITH PARTS OF EASTERN
    CALIFORNIA INTO WESTERN NEVADA...

    ...01Z Update...

    ...Southwest...

    Moisture streaming north around a digging positively tilted trough
    has resulting in a corridor of showers and thunderstorms extending
    from the AZ/NM/Mexico tripoint north and west to west-central
    Nevada. The strongest storms and by far the most prolific flash
    flooding are across eastern Arizona into southwestern New Mexico,
    where atmospheric moisture levels are their highest. Heavy rain
    associated with scattered thunderstorms will likely continue for a
    few more hours with daytime heating, then will rapidly diminish in
    coverage and intensity after sunset. A similar scenario is also
    occurring up north, where a Slight Risk area covers a portion of
    the NV/CA border south of Lake Tahoe. In similar fashion as=20
    further south, the steady rain will likely persist for another few=20
    hours, followed by rapid weakening and dissipation of all=20
    precipitation producing showers and storms soon after sunset. The=20
    Slight Risk in this area was expanded north to cover some of the=20
    flash flooding occurring southeast of Lake Tahoe, but overall a=20
    very minor adjustment.

    ...Northeast...

    The inherited Marginal Risk across the Northeast was split with
    this update to the area around the OH/WV/PA tripoint and the
    northern West Virginia Panhandle, with a second one for much of
    southern New England. In the upper Ohio Valley, scattered showers
    and storms over southeastern Ohio are moving into an area hard hit
    with heavy rain in recent days. Thus, even small amounts of rain in
    this terrain may result in renewed flash flooding. Into New
    England, a line of moderate to heavy rain is moving into western
    New England, and may cause isolated flash flooding in areas that
    have seen more rain from the area of rain now moving across Maine,
    otherwise the flash flooding threat has largely ended, especially
    in most of PA and NY.

    ...Southeast...

    No major changes were made as ongoing clusters of showers and
    thunderstorms may still pose an isolated flash flooding threat into
    the overnight, though overall coverage should continue gradually
    decreasing with the loss of solar heating.

    Wegman


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    ARIZONA AND SOUTHWEST NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest...

    ...2000 UTC Update...
    At most, only minor changes made to the Day 2 ERO. Most notably,
    we expanded the Slight Risk area slightly westward, which now
    includes the Phoenix metro region and is closer to to Prescott and
    Flagstaff. This is based on the latest (more elevated_ HREF and
    RRFS rainfall exceedance probabilities for Friday afternoon and
    evening, especially the probs for 0.50-1.00+ in/hr rainfall, along
    with the probs of 3-hourly rainfall exceeding current 3-hour FFG
    40% within the Slight Risk area between 20-03Z).

    ...Previous Discussion...
    Numerous showers and thunderstorms are expected across the
    Southwest, especially for much of southeastern Arizona and parts of southwestern New Mexico. An upper low should slow to a crawl
    across southeast California. Precipitable water values should
    remain as high as 1.25-1.5" in spots, but the guidance shows more
    potential on the ML CAPE front when compared to Thursday, with
    values of 2000-3000 J/kg possible as available moisture interacts
    with the cold pool aloft. Widespread shower and thunderstorm
    coverage is expected, particularly during the afternoon and evening
    hours. A Slight Risk, with a footprint similar to the Day 2 area,
    was maintained for Day 3 across parts of Arizona and New Mexico,
    but it could be higher end Slight Risk. Hourly rain amounts to 2"
    are possible where cells merge and/or train.

    ...Southeast...
    A boundary will remain in place as a cold low forms near the base
    of an upper level trough, a feature that lingers for a while near
    the Southern Appalachians. Moisture and instability lifting ahead
    of the closing system will support periods of showers and storms.
    Precipitable water values of up to 2" with ML CAPE to 1000 J/kg
    across the Piedmont and 2000-3000 J/kg in coastal areas are
    expected, which could yield hourly rain amounts to 2.5" and local
    totals to 4".

    Roth


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF FAR
    WEST TEXAS & NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest/Southern Rockies...

    ...2000 UTC Update...
    Expanded the Slight Risk area across NM, particularly northwest
    NM, based on the latest (12Z) deterministic and probabilistic
    guidance trends with the deepening low eventually cutting over
    southeast CA/southwest AZ by Saturday. Model QPFs seem to be
    convergence, which is boosting confidence to expand the Slight
    farther north toward the NM-CO border. The area also aligns with
    where the ECMWF and GFS show highest MUCAPEs (at least 500 J/Kg).

    ...Previous Discussion...
    An upper low remains fixed across the Lower Colorado River while
    Gulf Moisture streams into the TX Big Bend and New Mexico, moving
    up the Rio Grande. Precipitable water values of 1.25-1.5" are
    forecast, which when combined with up to 1000 J/kg of ML CAPE could
    yield hourly amounts to 2.5" and local totals to 4" where cells
    train and/or merge. Believe the risk level from continuity (Slight)
    conveys the risk appropriately at this time for portions of far
    west TX and NM. Closer to the upper level center across the
    Southwest, slow-moving convection is possible under the cold pool
    aloft. Based on the decline of the 1000-500 hPa thickness across UT
    towards 5670 meters, limited the northern extent of the Marginal
    Risk to southern UT which is about the northern extent of the 0.75" precipitable water value, which was coordinated with the SLC/Salt
    Lake City forecast office.

    ...Carolinas/Southern Mid-Atlantic States...

    ...2000 UTC Update...
    Minimal changes made to the previous Day 3 ERO in this area. Still
    cannot rule an upgrade to a Slight Risk somewhere over the Coastal
    Plain from SC-VA (see previous discussion); however, the guidance
    spread with respect to the QPF remains quite a bit high at this
    time to include a targeted Slight Risk area.

    ...Previous Discussion...
    Divergence aloft around the eastern periphery of a cold low near
    the Southern Appalachians maintains precipitable water values of
    2"+ near the coast, which should also see the greatest instability,
    up to 1000 J/kg. The guidance shows a bit of dispersion here in placement/northeast movement of the heavy rain area with the GFS
    and NAM in their usual camps (fast and slow, respectively). Hourly
    rain amounts to 2.5" and local totals to 4" are expected, similar
    to previous days. Forecast uncertainty, as much as anything else,
    maintained the risk level as a Marginal. Should the guidance
    converge, areas of risk overlap between Friday and Saturday across
    portions of the coastal plain of the Carolinas could see an upgrade
    to a Slight Risk at some point as we get closer to Saturday.

    Hurley/Roth


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6YmSsLc3Hz2al0zQa0LUEiA65zKbo3NmcArBMC2w4u0j= 6sIEdJQsLJb9ozBTBFysqxBt2hYZ-jgkY4SDI6ZyvOoooXk$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6YmSsLc3Hz2al0zQa0LUEiA65zKbo3NmcArBMC2w4u0j= 6sIEdJQsLJb9ozBTBFysqxBt2hYZ-jgkY4SDI6ZyZmehpr0$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6YmSsLc3Hz2al0zQa0LUEiA65zKbo3NmcArBMC2w4u0j= 6sIEdJQsLJb9ozBTBFysqxBt2hYZ-jgkY4SDI6ZyOY64Im8$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Fri Sep 26 08:08:19 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 260808
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    408 AM EDT Fri Sep 26 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Fri Sep 26 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHWEST & IN THE VICINITY OF THE CAROLINAS...

    ...Southwest...
    Numerous showers and thunderstorms are expected across the=20
    Southwest, especially for much of southeastern Arizona and parts of southwestern New Mexico, which should occur primarily during the
    afternoon and evening hours. An upper low should slow to a crawl=20
    across southeast California. Precipitable water values should=20
    remain as high as 1.25-1.5" in spots. ML CAPE values of 2000-3000=20
    J/kg are possible as available moisture interacts with the cold=20
    pool aloft. A Slight Risk was maintained across parts of Arizona=20
    and New Mexico, but it could be higher end Slight Risk. Hourly rain
    amounts to 2" with local totals to 4" are possible where cells=20
    merge and/or train.


    ...Southeast...
    A boundary will remain in place as a cold low forms near the base
    of an upper level trough, a feature that lingers for a while near
    the Southern Appalachians. Farther inland across the Piedmont, some
    degree of upslope flow should bring some of the higher moisture
    back in from the southeast. Moisture and instability lifting ahead
    of the closing system will support periods of showers and storms.=20 Precipitable water values of up to 2" with MU CAPE of 1000+ J/kg=20
    across the Piedmont and 2000-3000 J/kg in coastal areas are=20
    expected, which could yield hourly rain amounts to 2.5" and local=20
    totals to 4". As the 00z HREF and 18z REFS had their strongest=20
    signal for 3"+ and 5"+ across far southwest VA and the western=20
    Carolinas, a Slight Risk was added in this update, which was=20
    coordinated with the local offices. For the time being, a Slight=20
    Risk was left out across the coastal plain of the Carolinas as=20
    recent dryness could make a higher incidence of flash flooding=20
    harder to come by, which was coordinated with the coastal Carolina=20
    offices.

    Roth


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025


    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF FAR
    WEST TEXAS & NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest/Southern Rockies...
    An upper low remains fixed across the Lower Colorado River while=20
    Gulf Moisture streams into the TX Big Bend and New Mexico, moving=20
    up the Rio Grande. Precipitable water values of 1.25-1.5" are=20
    forecast, which when combined with 1000+ J/kg of ML CAPE could=20
    yield hourly amounts to 2.5" and local totals to 4" where cells=20
    train and/or merge. Believe the risk level from continuity (Slight)
    conveys the risk appropriately at this time for portions of far=20
    west TX and NM. Closer to the upper level center across the=20
    Southwest, slow-moving convection is possible under the cold pool=20
    aloft, with ML CAPE of 1000-2000 J/kg of instability and
    precipitable water values in the Lower Desert of 1-1.25" expected.
    Based on the decline of the 1000-500 hPa thickness across UT=20
    towards 5670 meters, limited the northern extent of the Marginal=20
    Risk to southern UT which is about the northern extent of the 0.75" precipitable water value.


    ...Carolinas/Southern Mid-Atlantic States...
    Divergence aloft around the eastern periphery of a cold low near=20
    the Southern Appalachians and what is now a tropical disturbance
    moving through the Bahamas as a possible tropical cyclone on=20
    Saturday team up to maintain precipitable water values of up to
    2.25" across the coastal plain, which should also see the greatest
    instability, 1000-2000 J/kg. The Piedmont should see times when the
    MU CAPE rises above 500 J/kg. This is a PRE-like set up for the=20
    region, so the heavy rainfall potential has a higher upside than=20
    usual. There has been some convergence in the model guidance QPF-=20
    wise, and both the 00z HREF and 18z REFS had a cohesive and=20
    agreeable enough heavy rain threat of 3"+ for a new Slight Risk=20
    area from roughly Richmond VA south on both sides of the fall line=20
    into eastern SC. Hourly rain amounts to 3" and local totals to 6"=20
    are possible, which is potentially problematic anywhere within the=20
    Slight Risk area. A higher risk level can't be ruled out in future=20
    updates.

    Roth



    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF FAR
    WEST TEXAS, NEW MEXICO, & THE CAROLINAS...

    Southwest/Southern Rockies...
    The combination of an upper low moving to near the Four Corners, a
    kicker upper level trough moving into CA, and moisture feed from=20
    the Gulf into NM persist into Sunday. Precipitable water values
    remain above 1" locally in the Desert Southwest and 1-1.25" in the
    Southern High Plains. Pockets of 1000+ J/kg of ML/MU CAPE are
    forecast to develop and/or persist. A Slight Risk still appears=20
    reasonable across portions of far west TX and NM, with a broader=20
    Marginal Risk surrounding that. The guidance appears to be trending
    somewhat drier across the Great Basin, so limited the northern=20
    extent of the Marginal Risk area when compared to continuity.


    Florida northward into the Southern Mid-Atlantic States...
    A system now considered a tropical disturbance over Hispaniola
    should lie somewhere north of the Bahamas and east of Florida as a
    possible tropical or hybrid cyclone on Sunday. The upper level=20
    environment doesn't look kind for whatever emerges, and there are=20
    two scenarios -- a more convective system that remains offshore=20
    during the medium range period or a more sheared system that=20
    attempts to occlude when it approaches landfall early next week.=20
    The guidance is not ideal in differentiating which is correct=20
    during these scenarios, historically.=20

    Regardless, moisture will not be a problem regionally --
    precipitable water values locally 2"+. Coastal areas will see=20
    1000+ J/kg of ML CAPE while 250+ J/kg of MU CAPE invades portions=20
    of VA. The guidance has slowed down the approach of the tropical=20
    low since yesterday, but the other players in the flow pattern=20
    remain -- the upper low near the southern Appalachians/southern=20
    Cumberland Plateau and the front near the East Coast. A PRE- like=20
    set up appears to be in the cards, with moisture streaming into the
    front from the south. The best signal for heavy rainfall on Sunday
    into early Monday appears to be in the vicinity of Myrtle Beach,=20
    and considering previous days of rain, thought a new Slight Risk in
    that area would be prudent. In theory, hourly rain amounts to 3"=20
    should be possible, which would be most problematic should=20
    thunderstorms merge or train.

    Roth


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7kCeOPjehPYiHHnnWyFIadM5ZEv3yQ4h7x500EE-ws-1= M87BBQ-OzLnFQYIBIvFPuY78zriws5PyHyHIhQw3T5d5Y3c$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7kCeOPjehPYiHHnnWyFIadM5ZEv3yQ4h7x500EE-ws-1= M87BBQ-OzLnFQYIBIvFPuY78zriws5PyHyHIhQw3Wqd56Fo$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7kCeOPjehPYiHHnnWyFIadM5ZEv3yQ4h7x500EE-ws-1= M87BBQ-OzLnFQYIBIvFPuY78zriws5PyHyHIhQw3FvcRo40$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Fri Sep 26 16:02:59 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 261602
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1202 PM EDT Fri Sep 26 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Fri Sep 26 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHWEST & IN THE VICINITY OF THE CAROLINAS...

    16z Update: Not many changes needed to the inherited outlook from
    earlier this morning. Central to southern AZ remains the focus for
    potentially locally significant flash flooding. Pretty impressive
    southerly inflow/moisture transport combined with upwards of 2000
    J/KG of CAPE will support a backbuilding convective threat today.
    Main question will be how much of this moves off the terrain and
    towards the Phoenix to Tuscon urban corridor. The initial tendency
    will be for convection to focus in the terrain areas, likely
    growing in coverage and intensity. If a strong enough outflow can
    push south out of this activity then we could see convection move
    off the terrain and into the lower elevations/urban areas. If this
    happens the strong southerly flow will support=20
    backbuilding/training and an increased flash flood risk. HREF and=20
    REFS probabilities support 2-4" rainfall totals where this training
    is able to persist. However still unclear whether these totals are
    able to move southward out of the higher terrain...but there is=20
    certainly some potential for this scenario.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Southwest...
    Numerous showers and thunderstorms are expected across the
    Southwest, especially for much of southeastern Arizona and parts of southwestern New Mexico, which should occur primarily during the
    afternoon and evening hours. An upper low should slow to a crawl
    across southeast California. Precipitable water values should
    remain as high as 1.25-1.5" in spots. ML CAPE values of 2000-3000
    J/kg are possible as available moisture interacts with the cold
    pool aloft. A Slight Risk was maintained across parts of Arizona
    and New Mexico, but it could be higher end Slight Risk. Hourly rain
    amounts to 2" with local totals to 4" are possible where cells
    merge and/or train.


    ...Southeast...
    A boundary will remain in place as a cold low forms near the base
    of an upper level trough, a feature that lingers for a while near
    the Southern Appalachians. Farther inland across the Piedmont, some
    degree of upslope flow should bring some of the higher moisture
    back in from the southeast. Moisture and instability lifting ahead
    of the closing system will support periods of showers and storms.
    Precipitable water values of up to 2" with MU CAPE of 1000+ J/kg
    across the Piedmont and 2000-3000 J/kg in coastal areas are
    expected, which could yield hourly rain amounts to 2.5" and local
    totals to 4". As the 00z HREF and 18z REFS had their strongest
    signal for 3"+ and 5"+ across far southwest VA and the western
    Carolinas, a Slight Risk was added in this update, which was
    coordinated with the local offices. For the time being, a Slight
    Risk was left out across the coastal plain of the Carolinas as
    recent dryness could make a higher incidence of flash flooding
    harder to come by, which was coordinated with the coastal Carolina
    offices.

    Roth


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025


    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF FAR
    WEST TEXAS & NEW MEXICO...

    ...Southwest/Southern Rockies...
    An upper low remains fixed across the Lower Colorado River while
    Gulf Moisture streams into the TX Big Bend and New Mexico, moving
    up the Rio Grande. Precipitable water values of 1.25-1.5" are
    forecast, which when combined with 1000+ J/kg of ML CAPE could
    yield hourly amounts to 2.5" and local totals to 4" where cells
    train and/or merge. Believe the risk level from continuity (Slight)
    conveys the risk appropriately at this time for portions of far
    west TX and NM. Closer to the upper level center across the
    Southwest, slow-moving convection is possible under the cold pool
    aloft, with ML CAPE of 1000-2000 J/kg of instability and
    precipitable water values in the Lower Desert of 1-1.25" expected.
    Based on the decline of the 1000-500 hPa thickness across UT
    towards 5670 meters, limited the northern extent of the Marginal
    Risk to southern UT which is about the northern extent of the 0.75" precipitable water value.


    ...Carolinas/Southern Mid-Atlantic States...
    Divergence aloft around the eastern periphery of a cold low near
    the Southern Appalachians and what is now a tropical disturbance
    moving through the Bahamas as a possible tropical cyclone on
    Saturday team up to maintain precipitable water values of up to
    2.25" across the coastal plain, which should also see the greatest
    instability, 1000-2000 J/kg. The Piedmont should see times when the
    MU CAPE rises above 500 J/kg. This is a PRE-like set up for the
    region, so the heavy rainfall potential has a higher upside than
    usual. There has been some convergence in the model guidance QPF-
    wise, and both the 00z HREF and 18z REFS had a cohesive and
    agreeable enough heavy rain threat of 3"+ for a new Slight Risk
    area from roughly Richmond VA south on both sides of the fall line
    into eastern SC. Hourly rain amounts to 3" and local totals to 6"
    are possible, which is potentially problematic anywhere within the
    Slight Risk area. A higher risk level can't be ruled out in future
    updates.

    Roth



    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF FAR
    WEST TEXAS, NEW MEXICO, & THE CAROLINAS...

    Southwest/Southern Rockies...
    The combination of an upper low moving to near the Four Corners, a
    kicker upper level trough moving into CA, and moisture feed from
    the Gulf into NM persist into Sunday. Precipitable water values
    remain above 1" locally in the Desert Southwest and 1-1.25" in the
    Southern High Plains. Pockets of 1000+ J/kg of ML/MU CAPE are
    forecast to develop and/or persist. A Slight Risk still appears
    reasonable across portions of far west TX and NM, with a broader
    Marginal Risk surrounding that. The guidance appears to be trending
    somewhat drier across the Great Basin, so limited the northern
    extent of the Marginal Risk area when compared to continuity.


    Florida northward into the Southern Mid-Atlantic States...
    A system now considered a tropical disturbance over Hispaniola
    should lie somewhere north of the Bahamas and east of Florida as a
    possible tropical or hybrid cyclone on Sunday. The upper level
    environment doesn't look kind for whatever emerges, and there are
    two scenarios -- a more convective system that remains offshore
    during the medium range period or a more sheared system that
    attempts to occlude when it approaches landfall early next week.
    The guidance is not ideal in differentiating which is correct
    during these scenarios, historically.

    Regardless, moisture will not be a problem regionally --
    precipitable water values locally 2"+. Coastal areas will see
    1000+ J/kg of ML CAPE while 250+ J/kg of MU CAPE invades portions
    of VA. The guidance has slowed down the approach of the tropical
    low since yesterday, but the other players in the flow pattern
    remain -- the upper low near the southern Appalachians/southern
    Cumberland Plateau and the front near the East Coast. A PRE- like
    set up appears to be in the cards, with moisture streaming into the
    front from the south. The best signal for heavy rainfall on Sunday
    into early Monday appears to be in the vicinity of Myrtle Beach,
    and considering previous days of rain, thought a new Slight Risk in
    that area would be prudent. In theory, hourly rain amounts to 3"
    should be possible, which would be most problematic should
    thunderstorms merge or train.

    Roth


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_GwtI8hMddDxomy2mdbQ5a7Jw28mxmOvgJgnRRST7IMn= rctn3shEOsqMjKdYMD9N4YpuMXjZiHA_9zUgpyWnQ3QG7KE$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_GwtI8hMddDxomy2mdbQ5a7Jw28mxmOvgJgnRRST7IMn= rctn3shEOsqMjKdYMD9N4YpuMXjZiHA_9zUgpyWnXgZhVc8$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_GwtI8hMddDxomy2mdbQ5a7Jw28mxmOvgJgnRRST7IMn= rctn3shEOsqMjKdYMD9N4YpuMXjZiHA_9zUgpyWnlsO0fnk$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Fri Sep 26 20:26:11 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 262026
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    426 PM EDT Fri Sep 26 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Fri Sep 26 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHWEST & IN THE VICINITY OF THE CAROLINAS...

    16z Update: Not many changes needed to the inherited outlook from
    earlier this morning. Central to southern AZ remains the focus for
    potentially locally significant flash flooding. Pretty impressive
    southerly inflow/moisture transport combined with upwards of 2000
    J/KG of CAPE will support a backbuilding convective threat today.
    Main question will be how much of this moves off the terrain and
    towards the Phoenix to Tuscon urban corridor. The initial tendency
    will be for convection to focus in the terrain areas, likely
    growing in coverage and intensity. If a strong enough outflow can
    push south out of this activity then we could see convection move
    off the terrain and into the lower elevations/urban areas. If this
    happens the strong southerly flow will support
    backbuilding/training and an increased flash flood risk. HREF and
    REFS probabilities support 2-4" rainfall totals where this training
    is able to persist. However still unclear whether these totals are
    able to move southward out of the higher terrain...but there is
    certainly some potential for this scenario.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Southwest...
    Numerous showers and thunderstorms are expected across the
    Southwest, especially for much of southeastern Arizona and parts of southwestern New Mexico, which should occur primarily during the
    afternoon and evening hours. An upper low should slow to a crawl
    across southeast California. Precipitable water values should
    remain as high as 1.25-1.5" in spots. ML CAPE values of 2000-3000
    J/kg are possible as available moisture interacts with the cold
    pool aloft. A Slight Risk was maintained across parts of Arizona
    and New Mexico, but it could be higher end Slight Risk. Hourly rain
    amounts to 2" with local totals to 4" are possible where cells
    merge and/or train.


    ...Southeast...
    A boundary will remain in place as a cold low forms near the base
    of an upper level trough, a feature that lingers for a while near
    the Southern Appalachians. Farther inland across the Piedmont, some
    degree of upslope flow should bring some of the higher moisture
    back in from the southeast. Moisture and instability lifting ahead
    of the closing system will support periods of showers and storms.
    Precipitable water values of up to 2" with MU CAPE of 1000+ J/kg
    across the Piedmont and 2000-3000 J/kg in coastal areas are
    expected, which could yield hourly rain amounts to 2.5" and local
    totals to 4". As the 00z HREF and 18z REFS had their strongest
    signal for 3"+ and 5"+ across far southwest VA and the western
    Carolinas, a Slight Risk was added in this update, which was
    coordinated with the local offices. For the time being, a Slight
    Risk was left out across the coastal plain of the Carolinas as
    recent dryness could make a higher incidence of flash flooding
    harder to come by, which was coordinated with the coastal Carolina
    offices.

    Roth


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHWEST AND MID ATLANTIC TO SOUTHEAST...

    20z Update: The Slight risk was maintained over the Mid Atlantic
    with this update. The higher confidence for potential flash=20
    flooding appears to be over portions of central to southeast VA.=20
    This is in the vicinity of the stationary front where lower level=20 convergence should be maximized. Instability will drop off with=20
    northern extent, however we should have enough instability along=20
    and just north of the front to support an axis of low topped=20
    convection. This activity will likely be warm rain dominant, and=20
    thus efficient at producing heavy rainfall rates. The exact axis=20
    remains a bit uncertain, with model solutions varying from near=20
    the NC/VA border on the southern side, to DC on the northern=20
    extent. At the moment the best clustering is around Richmond, but=20
    there is some opportunity for that to shift a bit north or south.=20
    Where this axis does set up, localized rainfall over 4" appears=20
    likely. The Slight risk was expanded a bit northward over central
    and eastern VA to account for this risk.

    Confidence is lower on the Slight risk farther south over NC and=20
    SC. Certainly plenty of moisture in place, but the coverage and=20
    organization of convection is less clear. Also a possibility that=20
    the cells that do form tend to move along at a fast enough clip to=20
    limit the flash flood coverage. The best chance of some training=20
    could be along the coastal corridor where convergence and=20
    instability may be a bit stronger. Overall the flash flood risk=20
    over these areas may end up staying more isolated in nature...but=20
    the potential for greater coverage is still there, and so we will=20
    maintain the recently introduced Slight risk area.

    Over the Southwest a Slight risk area was added to portions of=20
    southeast CA into southwest AZ. The upper level low will remain=20
    over these areas on Saturday providing broad ascent for convective=20 development. Instability over these areas is forecast to be=20
    greater Saturday than Friday, and PWs will remain well above late=20
    September averages. Thus would expect to see greater convective=20
    coverage than today, with heavy rainfall rates likely. The presence
    of the upper low should support slow cell motions and the=20
    potential for periodic cell mergers.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Southwest/Southern Rockies...
    An upper low remains fixed across the Lower Colorado River while
    Gulf Moisture streams into the TX Big Bend and New Mexico, moving
    up the Rio Grande. Precipitable water values of 1.25-1.5" are
    forecast, which when combined with 1000+ J/kg of ML CAPE could
    yield hourly amounts to 2.5" and local totals to 4" where cells
    train and/or merge. Believe the risk level from continuity (Slight)
    conveys the risk appropriately at this time for portions of far
    west TX and NM. Closer to the upper level center across the
    Southwest, slow-moving convection is possible under the cold pool
    aloft, with ML CAPE of 1000-2000 J/kg of instability and
    precipitable water values in the Lower Desert of 1-1.25" expected.
    Based on the decline of the 1000-500 hPa thickness across UT
    towards 5670 meters, limited the northern extent of the Marginal
    Risk to southern UT which is about the northern extent of the 0.75" precipitable water value.


    ...Carolinas/Southern Mid-Atlantic States...
    Divergence aloft around the eastern periphery of a cold low near
    the Southern Appalachians and what is now a tropical disturbance
    moving through the Bahamas as a possible tropical cyclone on
    Saturday team up to maintain precipitable water values of up to
    2.25" across the coastal plain, which should also see the greatest
    instability, 1000-2000 J/kg. The Piedmont should see times when the
    MU CAPE rises above 500 J/kg. This is a PRE-like set up for the
    region, so the heavy rainfall potential has a higher upside than
    usual. There has been some convergence in the model guidance QPF-
    wise, and both the 00z HREF and 18z REFS had a cohesive and
    agreeable enough heavy rain threat of 3"+ for a new Slight Risk
    area from roughly Richmond VA south on both sides of the fall line
    into eastern SC. Hourly rain amounts to 3" and local totals to 6"
    are possible, which is potentially problematic anywhere within the
    Slight Risk area. A higher risk level can't be ruled out in future
    updates.

    Roth



    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF FAR
    WEST TEXAS AND NEW MEXICO...

    20z Update: We did opt to remove the small Slight risk along the
    SC/NC coast with this update. Most guidance suggests the heaviest
    rainfall this period will remain offshore, with greater impacts
    onshore beginning on day 4 (Monday into Tuesday). There is
    certainly some potential for locally heavy rain along coastal
    areas, but at the moment the risk appears localized in nature.=20
    Thus a Marginal risk should be enough to cover this threat for=20
    now and we will continue to monitor trends.

    Little to no change was needed over the Southwest with this=20
    update. Portions of NM into far west TX still look on track for an=20
    isolated to scattered flash flood risk as mid/upper level=20
    troughing moves eastward.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    Southwest/Southern Rockies...
    The combination of an upper low moving to near the Four Corners, a
    kicker upper level trough moving into CA, and moisture feed from
    the Gulf into NM persist into Sunday. Precipitable water values
    remain above 1" locally in the Desert Southwest and 1-1.25" in the
    Southern High Plains. Pockets of 1000+ J/kg of ML/MU CAPE are
    forecast to develop and/or persist. A Slight Risk still appears
    reasonable across portions of far west TX and NM, with a broader
    Marginal Risk surrounding that. The guidance appears to be trending
    somewhat drier across the Great Basin, so limited the northern
    extent of the Marginal Risk area when compared to continuity.


    Florida northward into the Southern Mid-Atlantic States...
    A system now considered a tropical disturbance over Hispaniola
    should lie somewhere north of the Bahamas and east of Florida as a
    possible tropical or hybrid cyclone on Sunday. The upper level
    environment doesn't look kind for whatever emerges, and there are
    two scenarios -- a more convective system that remains offshore
    during the medium range period or a more sheared system that
    attempts to occlude when it approaches landfall early next week.
    The guidance is not ideal in differentiating which is correct
    during these scenarios, historically.

    Regardless, moisture will not be a problem regionally --
    precipitable water values locally 2"+. Coastal areas will see
    1000+ J/kg of ML CAPE while 250+ J/kg of MU CAPE invades portions
    of VA. The guidance has slowed down the approach of the tropical
    low since yesterday, but the other players in the flow pattern
    remain -- the upper low near the southern Appalachians/southern
    Cumberland Plateau and the front near the East Coast. A PRE- like
    set up appears to be in the cards, with moisture streaming into the
    front from the south. The best signal for heavy rainfall on Sunday
    into early Monday appears to be in the vicinity of Myrtle Beach,
    and considering previous days of rain, thought a new Slight Risk in
    that area would be prudent. In theory, hourly rain amounts to 3"
    should be possible, which would be most problematic should
    thunderstorms merge or train.

    Roth


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8D-yRoqOmKEr3QqccSN0O-qwsJwkziezGu4czyd0yK3z= sMFdgvHwMhSdW5Z4oFnVwB6XT_-nxe05Uz-V0O9rWs9EfOs$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8D-yRoqOmKEr3QqccSN0O-qwsJwkziezGu4czyd0yK3z= sMFdgvHwMhSdW5Z4oFnVwB6XT_-nxe05Uz-V0O9r3eepMfc$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8D-yRoqOmKEr3QqccSN0O-qwsJwkziezGu4czyd0yK3z= sMFdgvHwMhSdW5Z4oFnVwB6XT_-nxe05Uz-V0O9rn4REM70$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 270047
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    847 PM EDT Fri Sep 26 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Sat Sep 27 2025 - 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHWEST & PORTIONS OF THE WESTERN CAROLINAS INTO SOUTHERN
    VIRGINIA...

    ...01Z Update...

    Few changes needed once again to both risk areas in portions of the
    Southwest and Southeast. In the Southwest, while convective
    coverage and intensity remains robust, overall trends are for
    weakening and diminishing of the storms across the area, as much of
    the instability feeding the storms is diurnally driven, so with
    sunset occurring soon, that should cut off the primary energy
    source of the storms. Thus, expect continued weakening and
    diminishing of the storms. Nonetheless, as they remain strong,
    opted to leave the risk areas largely the same and to cover the
    outside potential of new development, especially near the Mexican
    border.

    For the Southeast, the heavy rainfall event highlighted by the ERO
    is just getting started as the low-level jet increases in intensity
    and convective coverage continues to increase. Thus, needed changes
    were very minimal, and were mostly cutting out a small portion of
    the Marginal over northwestern Georgia which is behind much of the
    convection, and adding a little on the north side of both the
    Slight and Marginal in Virginia to acknowledge the most recent
    guidance changes suggesting some of the rain may be able to make it
    that far north into southern Virginia before weakening below an
    intensity of heavy rain needed to produce flash flooding.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Southwest...
    Numerous showers and thunderstorms are expected across the
    Southwest, especially for much of southeastern Arizona and parts of southwestern New Mexico, which should occur primarily during the
    afternoon and evening hours. An upper low should slow to a crawl
    across southeast California. Precipitable water values should
    remain as high as 1.25-1.5" in spots. ML CAPE values of 2000-3000
    J/kg are possible as available moisture interacts with the cold
    pool aloft. A Slight Risk was maintained across parts of Arizona
    and New Mexico, but it could be higher end Slight Risk. Hourly rain
    amounts to 2" with local totals to 4" are possible where cells
    merge and/or train.


    ...Southeast...
    A boundary will remain in place as a cold low forms near the base
    of an upper level trough, a feature that lingers for a while near
    the Southern Appalachians. Farther inland across the Piedmont, some
    degree of upslope flow should bring some of the higher moisture
    back in from the southeast. Moisture and instability lifting ahead
    of the closing system will support periods of showers and storms.
    Precipitable water values of up to 2" with MU CAPE of 1000+ J/kg
    across the Piedmont and 2000-3000 J/kg in coastal areas are
    expected, which could yield hourly rain amounts to 2.5" and local
    totals to 4". As the 00z HREF and 18z REFS had their strongest
    signal for 3"+ and 5"+ across far southwest VA and the western
    Carolinas, a Slight Risk was added in this update, which was
    coordinated with the local offices. For the time being, a Slight
    Risk was left out across the coastal plain of the Carolinas as
    recent dryness could make a higher incidence of flash flooding
    harder to come by, which was coordinated with the coastal Carolina
    offices.

    Roth


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHWEST AND MID ATLANTIC TO SOUTHEAST...

    20z Update: The Slight risk was maintained over the Mid Atlantic
    with this update. The higher confidence for potential flash
    flooding appears to be over portions of central to southeast VA.
    This is in the vicinity of the stationary front where lower level
    convergence should be maximized. Instability will drop off with
    northern extent, however we should have enough instability along
    and just north of the front to support an axis of low topped
    convection. This activity will likely be warm rain dominant, and
    thus efficient at producing heavy rainfall rates. The exact axis
    remains a bit uncertain, with model solutions varying from near
    the NC/VA border on the southern side, to DC on the northern
    extent. At the moment the best clustering is around Richmond, but
    there is some opportunity for that to shift a bit north or south.
    Where this axis does set up, localized rainfall over 4" appears
    likely. The Slight risk was expanded a bit northward over central
    and eastern VA to account for this risk.

    Confidence is lower on the Slight risk farther south over NC and
    SC. Certainly plenty of moisture in place, but the coverage and
    organization of convection is less clear. Also a possibility that
    the cells that do form tend to move along at a fast enough clip to
    limit the flash flood coverage. The best chance of some training
    could be along the coastal corridor where convergence and
    instability may be a bit stronger. Overall the flash flood risk
    over these areas may end up staying more isolated in nature...but
    the potential for greater coverage is still there, and so we will
    maintain the recently introduced Slight risk area.

    Over the Southwest a Slight risk area was added to portions of
    southeast CA into southwest AZ. The upper level low will remain
    over these areas on Saturday providing broad ascent for convective
    development. Instability over these areas is forecast to be
    greater Saturday than Friday, and PWs will remain well above late
    September averages. Thus would expect to see greater convective
    coverage than today, with heavy rainfall rates likely. The presence
    of the upper low should support slow cell motions and the
    potential for periodic cell mergers.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Southwest/Southern Rockies...
    An upper low remains fixed across the Lower Colorado River while
    Gulf Moisture streams into the TX Big Bend and New Mexico, moving
    up the Rio Grande. Precipitable water values of 1.25-1.5" are
    forecast, which when combined with 1000+ J/kg of ML CAPE could
    yield hourly amounts to 2.5" and local totals to 4" where cells
    train and/or merge. Believe the risk level from continuity (Slight)
    conveys the risk appropriately at this time for portions of far
    west TX and NM. Closer to the upper level center across the
    Southwest, slow-moving convection is possible under the cold pool
    aloft, with ML CAPE of 1000-2000 J/kg of instability and
    precipitable water values in the Lower Desert of 1-1.25" expected.
    Based on the decline of the 1000-500 hPa thickness across UT
    towards 5670 meters, limited the northern extent of the Marginal
    Risk to southern UT which is about the northern extent of the 0.75" precipitable water value.


    ...Carolinas/Southern Mid-Atlantic States...
    Divergence aloft around the eastern periphery of a cold low near
    the Southern Appalachians and what is now a tropical disturbance
    moving through the Bahamas as a possible tropical cyclone on
    Saturday team up to maintain precipitable water values of up to
    2.25" across the coastal plain, which should also see the greatest
    instability, 1000-2000 J/kg. The Piedmont should see times when the
    MU CAPE rises above 500 J/kg. This is a PRE-like set up for the
    region, so the heavy rainfall potential has a higher upside than
    usual. There has been some convergence in the model guidance QPF-
    wise, and both the 00z HREF and 18z REFS had a cohesive and
    agreeable enough heavy rain threat of 3"+ for a new Slight Risk
    area from roughly Richmond VA south on both sides of the fall line
    into eastern SC. Hourly rain amounts to 3" and local totals to 6"
    are possible, which is potentially problematic anywhere within the
    Slight Risk area. A higher risk level can't be ruled out in future
    updates.

    Roth



    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF FAR
    WEST TEXAS AND NEW MEXICO...

    20z Update: We did opt to remove the small Slight risk along the
    SC/NC coast with this update. Most guidance suggests the heaviest
    rainfall this period will remain offshore, with greater impacts
    onshore beginning on day 4 (Monday into Tuesday). There is
    certainly some potential for locally heavy rain along coastal
    areas, but at the moment the risk appears localized in nature.
    Thus a Marginal risk should be enough to cover this threat for
    now and we will continue to monitor trends.

    Little to no change was needed over the Southwest with this
    update. Portions of NM into far west TX still look on track for an
    isolated to scattered flash flood risk as mid/upper level
    troughing moves eastward.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    Southwest/Southern Rockies...
    The combination of an upper low moving to near the Four Corners, a
    kicker upper level trough moving into CA, and moisture feed from
    the Gulf into NM persist into Sunday. Precipitable water values
    remain above 1" locally in the Desert Southwest and 1-1.25" in the
    Southern High Plains. Pockets of 1000+ J/kg of ML/MU CAPE are
    forecast to develop and/or persist. A Slight Risk still appears
    reasonable across portions of far west TX and NM, with a broader
    Marginal Risk surrounding that. The guidance appears to be trending
    somewhat drier across the Great Basin, so limited the northern
    extent of the Marginal Risk area when compared to continuity.


    Florida northward into the Southern Mid-Atlantic States...
    A system now considered a tropical disturbance over Hispaniola
    should lie somewhere north of the Bahamas and east of Florida as a
    possible tropical or hybrid cyclone on Sunday. The upper level
    environment doesn't look kind for whatever emerges, and there are
    two scenarios -- a more convective system that remains offshore
    during the medium range period or a more sheared system that
    attempts to occlude when it approaches landfall early next week.
    The guidance is not ideal in differentiating which is correct
    during these scenarios, historically.

    Regardless, moisture will not be a problem regionally --
    precipitable water values locally 2"+. Coastal areas will see
    1000+ J/kg of ML CAPE while 250+ J/kg of MU CAPE invades portions
    of VA. The guidance has slowed down the approach of the tropical
    low since yesterday, but the other players in the flow pattern
    remain -- the upper low near the southern Appalachians/southern
    Cumberland Plateau and the front near the East Coast. A PRE- like
    set up appears to be in the cards, with moisture streaming into the
    front from the south. The best signal for heavy rainfall on Sunday
    into early Monday appears to be in the vicinity of Myrtle Beach,
    and considering previous days of rain, thought a new Slight Risk in
    that area would be prudent. In theory, hourly rain amounts to 3"
    should be possible, which would be most problematic should
    thunderstorms merge or train.

    Roth


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7AvIKvJLJIZP2LOUmURtuqfCv9A4DPmXZkyHDxnXJZ8q= jMPQgzk5FcDXWngtus1cdblu2L8Pzfrg18yGgoFrLMsuiUU$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7AvIKvJLJIZP2LOUmURtuqfCv9A4DPmXZkyHDxnXJZ8q= jMPQgzk5FcDXWngtus1cdblu2L8Pzfrg18yGgoFr9lKrDr4$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7AvIKvJLJIZP2LOUmURtuqfCv9A4DPmXZkyHDxnXJZ8q= jMPQgzk5FcDXWngtus1cdblu2L8Pzfrg18yGgoFrIWzM6iQ$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 270831
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    431 AM EDT Sat Sep 27 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Sat Sep 27 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHWEST AND MID-ATLANTIC...

    Southwest/Southern Rockies/High Plains

    A closed upper low over the Southwest will generate scattered=20
    thunderstorm activity across the region and into parts of the=20
    Southern High Plains/Rockies beginning this afternoon. Anomalous=20
    moisture (1in+ PWAT/2-3 StD) within a bouyant environment 1000+=20
    MUCAPE should yield modest rain rates of over an inch/hr,=20
    especially over favorable upslope terrain. Burn Scars and slot=20
    canyons will be among the most susceptible to flash flooding.

    Mid-Atlantic/Southeast

    An upper trough will continue supplying ample moisture (1.5-2in+=20
    PWAT) and sufficient instability (500 J/Kg+) to the Mid-
    Atlantic/Southeast Coastline today. Storms should develop within
    the warm sector of a stationary front draped across the Southern
    Appalachians and Mid-Atlantic Coast. The heaviest rainfall (1-2
    in/hr rates) should focus around the aforementioned front where=20
    favorable right entrance region dynamics will likely develop and=20
    prolong storms during peak heating hours.


    Kebede

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    FAR WEST TEXAS, NEW MEXICO AND SOUTHWESTERN COLORADO...

    Southwest/Four Corners/Southern High Plains/Rockies

    The upper low in the Southwest is expected to open as it lifts=20
    into the Rockies on Sunday. The threat for excessive rainfall thus=20
    expands a bit around the trough as the fetch of moisture from the=20
    previous day rotates around the low and into parts of the Great=20
    Basin and Four Corners. Some elevated instability 500 J/Kg+ MUCAPE=20
    could generate 0.5-1.5 in/hr rates, especially over parts of New=20
    Mexico, where a slight risk is in effect. Antecedent rainfall from=20
    Saturday should lower FFGs, making soils more vulnerable to flash=20
    flooding. Slot canyons, dry washes and upslope areas will likely be
    the most susceptible to runoff.

    Southeast

    Guidance continues to trend farther away from the Southeast Coast
    with the axis of substantial QPF associated with a tropical=20
    cyclone moving through the Bahamas at the beginning of the day 2=20
    period (Sunday morning). Given the uncertainty of the system's=20
    track, it's difficult to say with any confidence if/where the most=20
    impactful rainfall will occur, thus a broad marginal is in place=20
    from the Outer Banks down to Miami for now.


    Kebede

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST AND MID-ATLANTIC...

    Southeast/Mid-Atlantic

    Tropical moisture arrives along the Southeast/Mid-Atlantic Coast=20
    on Monday ahead of the associated cyclone, which is currently=20
    forecast to be east of Georgia by Tuesday morning. Current=20
    deterministic guidance has between 2-4 inches of rainfall occurring
    along the Carolina Coast with isolated higher amounts. Models are=20
    trending away from the coast with the cyclone's track, which is=20
    reflected in a decreasing QPF trend with this cycle as well.

    Northern California/Southwest Oregon

    A deep East Pacific trough will bring broad diffluent flow aloft=20
    over the Northwest Coast beginning Monday morning. Scattered=20
    showers and thunderstorms may develop along the leading edge of a=20
    surface front, where the presence of weak instability (350 J/Kg
    MUCAPE) and modest moisture (~1 in. PWAT) could produce localized=20
    flash flooding along the northern California/southwest Oregon
    Coasts and inland into the Southern Cascades and northern Sierra.


    Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9AScklAg2iERZHfLXW1ILyO2KW8JRkmC_4fDKOUUKDXR= 5EhVqu0on3ilRiGJ0dnOyGTY9MrIvhovEj_B2RuxeedEUFM$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9AScklAg2iERZHfLXW1ILyO2KW8JRkmC_4fDKOUUKDXR= 5EhVqu0on3ilRiGJ0dnOyGTY9MrIvhovEj_B2RuxGOP8I0w$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9AScklAg2iERZHfLXW1ILyO2KW8JRkmC_4fDKOUUKDXR= 5EhVqu0on3ilRiGJ0dnOyGTY9MrIvhovEj_B2RuxwewnExA$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 271549
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1149 AM EDT Sat Sep 27 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sat Sep 27 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHWEST AND MID-ATLANTIC...

    ...Desert Southwest, Four Corners, and Southern Rockies...
    An anomalous upper low (700-500mb heights falling beneath the 10th
    percentile from the CFSR climatology) will slowly fill today as it
    pivots slowly over the low deserts of CA/AZ. Downstream of this=20
    feature, confluent low and mid level flow will push northward out=20
    of the Baja region of Mexico, leading to a surge of PWs reaching as
    high as 1.25 inches in southern CA/AZ, and as high as 0.75 inches=20
    into UT, around the 90th percentile for the date according to the=20
    SPC sounding climatology. Farther east, and somewhat displaced from
    the upper low, a secondary surge in moisture will lift out of the=20
    Rio Grande Valley, surging PWs to around the 90th percentile as=20
    well into southern NM. This moisture will overlap with increasing=20 instability (MUCAPE 500-1000 J/kg) to result in widespread showers=20
    and thunderstorms today, first beneath the upper low through late=20
    morning, and then expanding across a much larger region during peak
    heating this aftn/eve.

    In general, convection that develops today will move steadily
    north/northwest in the vicinity of the upper low, with 0-6km mean
    winds progged to be 10-15kts. This suggests that storms should be
    generally progressive outside of terrain influences during
    development, but aligned propagation vectors in the cyclonic regime
    will allow for repeating rounds of cells in some areas. With rain=20
    rates progged by both the HREF neighborhood probabilities and the=20
    UA HRRR-forced WRF to potentially reach 0.5-1.0"/hr, this could
    result in stripes of 1 to as much as 3 inches of rainfall, leading
    to scattered instances of flash flooding.=20

    The inherited risk areas were still well supported by the latest
    guidance suite, so only minor adjustments were made to the previous
    outlook.


    ...Mid-Atlantic States and Coastal Southeast...
    A mid-level longwave trough anchored just inland from the=20
    Southeast Coast and aligned into the Ohio Valley will maintain=20
    intensity today, shedding vorticity lobes and accompanying weak=20
    impulses northeast through the region. At the surface, a wavy front
    will meander in the vicinity, with multiple low-pressures rippling
    along it in response to the mid-level shortwaves. The entire area=20
    will embedded within favorable thermodynamics for convection (PWS=20
    1.5-2.0 inches, locally above the 97th percentile according to=20
    NAEFS, overlapped with MUCAPE around 750 J/kg), with freezing=20
    levels of 13,000-14,000 ft supporting efficient warm rain processes
    this aftn.

    It is likely that thunderstorms will become widespread, especially
    during the peak diurnal cycle, and the HREF neighborhood
    probabilities for 2"/hr reach as high as 30-40%. While in general
    FFG exceedance probabilities are modest at 10-20%, there are
    pockets of much higher probabilities (up to 40%) across the
    Tidewater region of VA where a wave of low pressure and enhanced
    bulk shear will help organize thunderstorms a bit more
    significantly (and some of this is already ongoing, please see WPC
    Metwatch #1145 for more information). Here, FFG is also=20
    compromised below most adjacent areas, and the CSU First Guess=20
    Field suggests a higher- end SLGT risk today. So while in general=20
    flash flood instances should be pretty widely scattered, some=20
    locally more numerous impacts are possible in southeast VA through=20
    this evening.


    Weiss

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    FAR WEST TEXAS, NEW MEXICO AND SOUTHWESTERN COLORADO...

    Southwest/Four Corners/Southern High Plains/Rockies

    The upper low in the Southwest is expected to open as it lifts
    into the Rockies on Sunday. The threat for excessive rainfall thus
    expands a bit around the trough as the fetch of moisture from the
    previous day rotates around the low and into parts of the Great
    Basin and Four Corners. Some elevated instability 500 J/Kg+ MUCAPE
    could generate 0.5-1.5 in/hr rates, especially over parts of New
    Mexico, where a slight risk is in effect. Antecedent rainfall from
    Saturday should lower FFGs, making soils more vulnerable to flash
    flooding. Slot canyons, dry washes and upslope areas will likely be
    the most susceptible to runoff.

    Southeast

    Guidance continues to trend farther away from the Southeast Coast
    with the axis of substantial QPF associated with a tropical
    cyclone moving through the Bahamas at the beginning of the day 2
    period (Sunday morning). Given the uncertainty of the system's
    track, it's difficult to say with any confidence if/where the most
    impactful rainfall will occur, thus a broad marginal is in place
    from the Outer Banks down to Miami for now.


    Kebede

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST AND MID-ATLANTIC...

    Southeast/Mid-Atlantic

    Tropical moisture arrives along the Southeast/Mid-Atlantic Coast
    on Monday ahead of the associated cyclone, which is currently
    forecast to be east of Georgia by Tuesday morning. Current
    deterministic guidance has between 2-4 inches of rainfall occurring
    along the Carolina Coast with isolated higher amounts. Models are
    trending away from the coast with the cyclone's track, which is
    reflected in a decreasing QPF trend with this cycle as well.

    Northern California/Southwest Oregon

    A deep East Pacific trough will bring broad diffluent flow aloft
    over the Northwest Coast beginning Monday morning. Scattered
    showers and thunderstorms may develop along the leading edge of a
    surface front, where the presence of weak instability (350 J/Kg
    MUCAPE) and modest moisture (~1 in. PWAT) could produce localized
    flash flooding along the northern California/southwest Oregon
    Coasts and inland into the Southern Cascades and northern Sierra.


    Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7GPR1s8hplDuXbIQfWREJlwUHl8acGKQqzJZ0H5Gxvn1= d2mRI00UW5yDCVVoW-9NADub3B_Lb1T17sFZmXmGdWcuS-w$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7GPR1s8hplDuXbIQfWREJlwUHl8acGKQqzJZ0H5Gxvn1= d2mRI00UW5yDCVVoW-9NADub3B_Lb1T17sFZmXmGpt7A6d8$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7GPR1s8hplDuXbIQfWREJlwUHl8acGKQqzJZ0H5Gxvn1= d2mRI00UW5yDCVVoW-9NADub3B_Lb1T17sFZmXmGExbtgHo$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sat Sep 27 19:25:11 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 271924
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    324 PM EDT Sat Sep 27 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sat Sep 27 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHWEST AND MID-ATLANTIC...

    ...Desert Southwest, Four Corners, and Southern Rockies...
    An anomalous upper low (700-500mb heights falling beneath the 10th
    percentile from the CFSR climatology) will slowly fill today as it
    pivots slowly over the low deserts of CA/AZ. Downstream of this
    feature, confluent low and mid level flow will push northward out
    of the Baja region of Mexico, leading to a surge of PWs reaching as
    high as 1.25 inches in southern CA/AZ, and as high as 0.75 inches
    into UT, around the 90th percentile for the date according to the
    SPC sounding climatology. Farther east, and somewhat displaced from
    the upper low, a secondary surge in moisture will lift out of the
    Rio Grande Valley, surging PWs to around the 90th percentile as
    well into southern NM. This moisture will overlap with increasing
    instability (MUCAPE 500-1000 J/kg) to result in widespread showers
    and thunderstorms today, first beneath the upper low through late
    morning, and then expanding across a much larger region during peak
    heating this aftn/eve.

    In general, convection that develops today will move steadily
    north/northwest in the vicinity of the upper low, with 0-6km mean
    winds progged to be 10-15kts. This suggests that storms should be
    generally progressive outside of terrain influences during
    development, but aligned propagation vectors in the cyclonic regime
    will allow for repeating rounds of cells in some areas. With rain
    rates progged by both the HREF neighborhood probabilities and the
    UA HRRR-forced WRF to potentially reach 0.5-1.0"/hr, this could
    result in stripes of 1 to as much as 3 inches of rainfall, leading
    to scattered instances of flash flooding.

    The inherited risk areas were still well supported by the latest
    guidance suite, so only minor adjustments were made to the previous
    outlook.


    ...Mid-Atlantic States and Coastal Southeast...
    A mid-level longwave trough anchored just inland from the
    Southeast Coast and aligned into the Ohio Valley will maintain
    intensity today, shedding vorticity lobes and accompanying weak
    impulses northeast through the region. At the surface, a wavy front
    will meander in the vicinity, with multiple low-pressures rippling
    along it in response to the mid-level shortwaves. The entire area
    will embedded within favorable thermodynamics for convection (PWS
    1.5-2.0 inches, locally above the 97th percentile according to
    NAEFS, overlapped with MUCAPE around 750 J/kg), with freezing
    levels of 13,000-14,000 ft supporting efficient warm rain processes
    this aftn.

    It is likely that thunderstorms will become widespread, especially
    during the peak diurnal cycle, and the HREF neighborhood
    probabilities for 2"/hr reach as high as 30-40%. While in general
    FFG exceedance probabilities are modest at 10-20%, there are
    pockets of much higher probabilities (up to 40%) across the
    Tidewater region of VA where a wave of low pressure and enhanced
    bulk shear will help organize thunderstorms a bit more
    significantly (and some of this is already ongoing, please see WPC
    Metwatch #1145 for more information). Here, FFG is also
    compromised below most adjacent areas, and the CSU First Guess
    Field suggests a higher- end SLGT risk today. So while in general
    flash flood instances should be pretty widely scattered, some
    locally more numerous impacts are possible in southeast VA through
    this evening.


    Weiss

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    FAR WEST TEXAS AND NEW MEXICO...

    ...Great Basin through the Southern Rockies...
    The closed low over the Low Deserts on D1 will gradually open and
    fill during Sunday while meandering slowly northeast such that the
    primary trough axis is positioned over the Four Corners by 12Z
    Monday. Despite this weakening, pronounced height falls and
    periodic PVA from weak embedded impulses will maintain broad ascent
    from the Great Basin through the Southern Rockies. At the same
    time, downstream southerly flow ahead of the trough axis will
    continue to manifest as a surge of elevated PWs, with widespread PW
    anomalies from the NAEFS reaching the 97th to 99th percentiles.

    This broad southerly flow combined with the lowering heights aloft
    will also produce elevated MUCAPE of 500-750 J/kg across most of
    this area, with locally enhanced instability above 1000 J/kg over
    NM. This setup will support scattered to widespread convection as
    suggested by available CAMs simulated reflectivity, with rain rates
    potentially reaching 1"/hr at times. Mean 0-6km winds Sunday should
    again be steady out of the south at 10-15 kts, although aligned
    propagation vectors could result in some repeating/training,
    especially across New Mexico. The inherited risk areas were
    adjusted for new guidance, but changes were primarily cosmetic.


    ...Southeast Coast...
    Concern on Sunday turns towards Tropical Depression Nine and its
    evolution as it starts to lift slowly northward from the Bahamas
    while strengthening. While there continues to be quite a bit of
    model uncertainty, the general model trends have been for a slower
    progression of this system, with very dry air likely positioned
    just to its west as reflected by 750-500mb RH fields.=20

    This suggests that precipitation may be a bit slower to move=20
    onshore from the FL Peninsula into the Carolinas, but as Nine=20
    deepens and the subsequent 850mb winds to the north intensify, the=20 accompanying strengthening cyclonic flow will transport impressive=20
    tropical moisture westward and onshore, with PWs likely reaching=20
    above 2" from Cape Fear southward through the Space Coast. As
    tropical rain showers move onshore, they will be extremely
    efficient, with rain rates likely reaching 2-3"/hr. These showers
    will repeatedly generate offshore and then train onshore, so right
    along the immediate coast where sufficient instability and
    moistening can occur, total rainfall could exceed 3", especially
    across Florida, as reflected by HREF probabilities exceeding 40%.
    Of course, any additional trends west or slower in the track of
    Nine could enhance this rainfall, and locally higher totals are
    expected.

    The inherited MRGL risk was trimmed closer to the coast, especially
    across the Carolinas, with this update, with additional, but=20
    minimal cosmetic adjustments over the Florida Peninsula also made
    with this update.


    Weiss

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS THE COASTAL
    PLAIN FROM NORTH CAROLINA THROUGH THE CENTRAL FLORIDA PENINSULA...

    ...Southeast and Mid-Atlantic...
    All attention will be on Tropical Depression Nine, which is
    forecast by NHC to be a strong Tropical Storm or Cat 1 Hurricane on
    Monday as it lifts slowly northward from the Bahamas. While
    guidance has been slowly converging on a solution that brings the
    storm to a stall east of the GA/SC coast by the end of D3, there is
    still considerable spread in the ensembles. Staying close to the
    NHC track brings heavy rainfall D3 from the Space Coast of Florida
    northward into Southeast North Carolina. The exact track and
    intensity of Nine will determine where the greatest moisture
    convergence will occur to create the heaviest rainfall amounts, but
    anywhere along and north of the track will likely receive training
    tropical showers with 2-3"/hr rain rates. The heaviest rain still
    appears to be confined to the immediate coast due to dry air to the
    west, but as the column slowly saturates in response to persistent
    and increasing moist advection on strengthening onshore 850mb flow,
    heavy rain will eventually spread inland, especially into SC and
    NC. While the inherited SLGT risk was trimmed to the south a bit
    over NC and expanded along the eastern coast of the FL Peninsula
    with this update, in general, changes were minimal due to
    continuing track uncertainty.


    ...Northern California/Southwest Oregon...
    An impressive trough will push eastward across the Pacific Monday,
    reaching the coast and angling onshore by 12Z Tuesday. This will
    drive a frontal system onshore, and the resulting low-level
    convergence overlapped by a modestly coupled jet structure will
    provide plentiful ascent for heavy rainfall along the coast of
    northern CA/southern OR D3. Moisture transport will become
    impressive ahead of the front as reflected by high probabilities
    (70-80%) for IVT exceeding 500 kg/m/s from both the ECENS and GEFS
    ensembles, pushing PWs to above 1 inch on increasing southerly
    850mb inflow. Where this moisture overlaps with sufficient
    instability (progs suggest at least 250 J/kg MUCAPE) it will result
    in periods of moderate to heavy rainfall with rates of
    0.25-0.5"/hr which may be sufficient for at least localized impacts
    in vulnerable terrain, especially where training or enhanced
    convergence along terrain features can produce more than 1 inch of
    rainfall.


    Weiss


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5SAbkh4zNICpaHd6TpGKcYsey254oPT-WO4_kxPGpkCc= nxSOYBx9Nzlz29keLykPRIfXX_2W9snq7GcHwtsWFyCYFIc$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5SAbkh4zNICpaHd6TpGKcYsey254oPT-WO4_kxPGpkCc= nxSOYBx9Nzlz29keLykPRIfXX_2W9snq7GcHwtsWjZnSZyM$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5SAbkh4zNICpaHd6TpGKcYsey254oPT-WO4_kxPGpkCc= nxSOYBx9Nzlz29keLykPRIfXX_2W9snq7GcHwtsW1R4SeSw$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sun Sep 28 00:57:52 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 280057
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    857 PM EDT Sat Sep 27 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Sun Sep 28 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHWEST...

    ...Southwest...
    A Slight risk was maintained across portions of southeast CA into
    western AZ. Isolated to scattered instances of flash flooding
    continue this evening. Still generally expect to see the coverage
    and intensity of convection decrease overnight, although with
    lingering instability and the mid level low overhead we could see
    at least some localized areas of heavier convection continue.

    The Slight risk was removed over NM with this update. Still expect
    to see some convection overnight, and localized instances of flash
    flooding are still possible. However, activity has generally=20
    underperformed so far today, and with instability lower here=20
    compared to farther west, generally think the flash flood risk is=20
    isolated enough to warrant just the Marginal risk.

    ...East Coast...
    A Marginal risk was maintained in the vicinity of the Delmarva
    where low topped convection will support efficient warm rain
    processes. Overall not expecting much in the way of a flood=20
    threat, but heavy rates could result in a localized risk.

    Slow moving convection near the mid/upper vort energy will
    continue to support an isolated flash flood risk over portions of=20
    southwest VA and central NC. Overall the expectation is for this=20
    activity to decrease in coverage/intensity going forward...but=20
    models have not had a great handle on this convection and thus=20
    another instance or two of flash flooding can not be ruled out.

    Increasing easterly flow well north of Tropical Depression Nine=20
    may help locally enhance convergence along the east coast of FL=20
    tonight into Sunday morning. Low confidence on these details, but=20
    if heavier convection is able to develop then a localized urban=20
    flash flood risk is a possibility.

    Chenard


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    FAR WEST TEXAS AND NEW MEXICO...

    ...Great Basin through the Southern Rockies...
    The closed low over the Low Deserts on D1 will gradually open and
    fill during Sunday while meandering slowly northeast such that the
    primary trough axis is positioned over the Four Corners by 12Z
    Monday. Despite this weakening, pronounced height falls and
    periodic PVA from weak embedded impulses will maintain broad ascent
    from the Great Basin through the Southern Rockies. At the same
    time, downstream southerly flow ahead of the trough axis will
    continue to manifest as a surge of elevated PWs, with widespread PW
    anomalies from the NAEFS reaching the 97th to 99th percentiles.

    This broad southerly flow combined with the lowering heights aloft
    will also produce elevated MUCAPE of 500-750 J/kg across most of
    this area, with locally enhanced instability above 1000 J/kg over
    NM. This setup will support scattered to widespread convection as
    suggested by available CAMs simulated reflectivity, with rain rates
    potentially reaching 1"/hr at times. Mean 0-6km winds Sunday should
    again be steady out of the south at 10-15 kts, although aligned
    propagation vectors could result in some repeating/training,
    especially across New Mexico. The inherited risk areas were
    adjusted for new guidance, but changes were primarily cosmetic.


    ...Southeast Coast...
    Concern on Sunday turns towards Tropical Depression Nine and its
    evolution as it starts to lift slowly northward from the Bahamas
    while strengthening. While there continues to be quite a bit of
    model uncertainty, the general model trends have been for a slower
    progression of this system, with very dry air likely positioned
    just to its west as reflected by 750-500mb RH fields.

    This suggests that precipitation may be a bit slower to move
    onshore from the FL Peninsula into the Carolinas, but as Nine
    deepens and the subsequent 850mb winds to the north intensify, the
    accompanying strengthening cyclonic flow will transport impressive
    tropical moisture westward and onshore, with PWs likely reaching
    above 2" from Cape Fear southward through the Space Coast. As
    tropical rain showers move onshore, they will be extremely
    efficient, with rain rates likely reaching 2-3"/hr. These showers
    will repeatedly generate offshore and then train onshore, so right
    along the immediate coast where sufficient instability and
    moistening can occur, total rainfall could exceed 3", especially
    across Florida, as reflected by HREF probabilities exceeding 40%.
    Of course, any additional trends west or slower in the track of
    Nine could enhance this rainfall, and locally higher totals are
    expected.

    The inherited MRGL risk was trimmed closer to the coast, especially
    across the Carolinas, with this update, with additional, but
    minimal cosmetic adjustments over the Florida Peninsula also made
    with this update.


    Weiss

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS THE COASTAL
    PLAIN FROM NORTH CAROLINA THROUGH THE CENTRAL FLORIDA PENINSULA...

    ...Southeast and Mid-Atlantic...
    All attention will be on Tropical Depression Nine, which is
    forecast by NHC to be a strong Tropical Storm or Cat 1 Hurricane on
    Monday as it lifts slowly northward from the Bahamas. While
    guidance has been slowly converging on a solution that brings the
    storm to a stall east of the GA/SC coast by the end of D3, there is
    still considerable spread in the ensembles. Staying close to the
    NHC track brings heavy rainfall D3 from the Space Coast of Florida
    northward into Southeast North Carolina. The exact track and
    intensity of Nine will determine where the greatest moisture
    convergence will occur to create the heaviest rainfall amounts, but
    anywhere along and north of the track will likely receive training
    tropical showers with 2-3"/hr rain rates. The heaviest rain still
    appears to be confined to the immediate coast due to dry air to the
    west, but as the column slowly saturates in response to persistent
    and increasing moist advection on strengthening onshore 850mb flow,
    heavy rain will eventually spread inland, especially into SC and
    NC. While the inherited SLGT risk was trimmed to the south a bit
    over NC and expanded along the eastern coast of the FL Peninsula
    with this update, in general, changes were minimal due to
    continuing track uncertainty.


    ...Northern California/Southwest Oregon...
    An impressive trough will push eastward across the Pacific Monday,
    reaching the coast and angling onshore by 12Z Tuesday. This will
    drive a frontal system onshore, and the resulting low-level
    convergence overlapped by a modestly coupled jet structure will
    provide plentiful ascent for heavy rainfall along the coast of
    northern CA/southern OR D3. Moisture transport will become
    impressive ahead of the front as reflected by high probabilities
    (70-80%) for IVT exceeding 500 kg/m/s from both the ECENS and GEFS
    ensembles, pushing PWs to above 1 inch on increasing southerly
    850mb inflow. Where this moisture overlaps with sufficient
    instability (progs suggest at least 250 J/kg MUCAPE) it will result
    in periods of moderate to heavy rainfall with rates of
    0.25-0.5"/hr which may be sufficient for at least localized impacts
    in vulnerable terrain, especially where training or enhanced
    convergence along terrain features can produce more than 1 inch of
    rainfall.


    Weiss


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-6rocvidYNaM1uOSopYxalkmeDx6R8ZniWv4HMxaBGi0= UHiWneK-G6emfOSJa5NE-UMoQlkYTc4XHkMuVF1yUL4CsZQ$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-6rocvidYNaM1uOSopYxalkmeDx6R8ZniWv4HMxaBGi0= UHiWneK-G6emfOSJa5NE-UMoQlkYTc4XHkMuVF1yoj88jXE$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-6rocvidYNaM1uOSopYxalkmeDx6R8ZniWv4HMxaBGi0= UHiWneK-G6emfOSJa5NE-UMoQlkYTc4XHkMuVF1yu09dmxA$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sun Sep 28 08:29:48 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 280829
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    429 AM EDT Sun Sep 28 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Sun Sep 28 2025 - 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025

    ...THERE'S A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS MUCH OF NEW
    MEXICO AND PORTIONS OF FAR WESTERN TEXAS/SOUTHERN COLORADO...

    ...Four Corners/Southwest...
    An upper trough centered over the Southwest will continue=20
    directing mid-level vortices northward through the Four Corners=20
    region today. Moisture from Tropical Cyclone Narda in the East=20
    Pacific will continue surging north into the Four Corners, where=20
    scattered showers and thunderstorms are likely to proliferate throughout
    the day. PWATs between 1-1.5 inches within the right entrance=20
    region of the upper jet and modest instability around 500-1000+=20
    J/Kg (MLCAPE) could yield rain rates between 0.5-1 in./hr.,=20
    especially where the slight risk is currently drawn. Burn scars,=20
    scars slot canyons and upslope areas within the risk areas are=20
    especially vulnerable to flash flooding.=20

    HREF's neighborhood exceedance probabilities of 2 in. in 24 hours=20
    are between 25-50% while EAS probabilities of exceeding 0.5 in.=20
    hover around 20-40% within the depicted slight risk area.


    ...Southeast...
    An upper trough will pivot eastward over the Southeast while=20
    moisture from T.C. Nine continues surging northward toward the=20
    Southeast Coast. Current guidance keeps the axis of heaviest QPF=20
    offshore, but enough moisture may propagate far enough north and=20
    west to interact with a surface front draped along the coast and=20
    produce localized excessive rainfall. HREF EAS exceedance=20
    probabilities of 1 inch in 24 hours are between 5-15% along much=20
    of the Carolina Coast today, which supports the marginal risk area
    depicted.

    Kebede

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025

    ...THERE'S A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    CAROLINA COAST...

    ...Southeast...
    Guidance continue to depict T.C. Nine propagating north toward the
    Southeast Coast on Monday, while a surface front draped along the=20
    coast acts as the focus for heavy rainfall. QPF has trended=20
    downward given slowing trends in the track of T.C. Nine on Monday.
    The GFS suite in particular diverges most from the Canadian and=20
    Euro suites when depicting the system's slower forward motion.=20
    Despite this, enough moisture should work its way into the coast
    and interact with the surface front to generate scattered thunderstorms. There'll be enough moisture (1.5-2.5in PWATs) and instability=20
    (1000+ J/KG MUCAPE) present to support rainfall rates in excess of
    1 in./hr..

    ...Northern California/Great Basin/Southern Cascades...
    An upper low centered over the East Pacific will send mid-level=20
    vortices into the West Coast on Monday. Pacific moisture may=20
    collide with the remnant tropical moisture from Narda to produce=20
    heavy rainfall from northern California into the Great Basin.=20
    Synoptic forcing provided by a strong surface cold front should=20
    focus PWATs in the range of 0.75-1.25 in. to produce quarter inch=20
    rain rates along the immediate coast. More robust instability over=20
    the Great Basin should yield higher rain rates between 0.5-1=20
    in./hr. in some areas. Upslope enhancement may generate higher=20
    totals in parts of the terrain.

    Kebede

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025

    ...THERE'S A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    CAROLINA COAST...

    ...Southeast...
    The inherited marginal and slight risk areas along the Southeast=20
    Coast were downsized based on trends in the guidance suggesting=20
    T.C. Nine's hard turn out to sea on Tuesday. Despite the resulting
    smaller QPF footprint than previous cycles, the flash flood risk=20
    remains. Instability will be negligible (less than 500 J/Kg=20
    MUCAPE), which supports the possibility that the flood threat will be
    due to runoff over saturated soils from Sunday and Monday's=20
    rainfall. Exceedance probabilities of over 2 inches is over 10% in
    the 00z ECENS/CMCE, while below 10% in the GEFS along the=20
    immediate Carolina Coast.

    Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9CYiVEneZMixDw3UL5rD9-gc3wknJ8S7ajYNrYVy8laI= -OdCwgYjk8PgU-OpCcCOUI1bgfGEhDQ4uNQSes0gJ8-bKFE$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9CYiVEneZMixDw3UL5rD9-gc3wknJ8S7ajYNrYVy8laI= -OdCwgYjk8PgU-OpCcCOUI1bgfGEhDQ4uNQSes0gDqUrKE0$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9CYiVEneZMixDw3UL5rD9-gc3wknJ8S7ajYNrYVy8laI= -OdCwgYjk8PgU-OpCcCOUI1bgfGEhDQ4uNQSes0g4as4coA$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sun Sep 28 15:57:05 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 281556
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1156 AM EDT Sun Sep 28 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Sun Sep 28 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025

    ...THERE'S A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS MUCH OF NEW
    MEXICO AND PORTIONS OF FAR WESTERN TEXAS/SOUTHERN COLORADO, AS WELL
    AS, PORTIONS OF NORTHWEST ARIZONA...

    16z update:
    New Mexico/West TX Panhandle: Mid-level sub-tropical moisture=20
    continues to stream northward through the leading height-=20
    falls/outer edge of deep-layer cyclone across Western TX Panhandle=20
    through the Sacramento Mountains and points northward. Reinforcing=20
    surface to boundary layer moisture return through up- slope process
    will maintain 1-1.25" total PWats. Embedded mid-level impulses=20
    through the large base of the cyclone will allow for multiple=20
    rounds across S NM/W TX Panhandle to maintain the Slight Risk.=20

    Southwest (N AZ): Near the northwest edge of the inner core of the
    upper- low in NW AZ, there remains a slightly enhanced signal for=20
    increased rainfall rates/totals per HREF probs and 12z Hi-Res CAMs.
    Enough so to be highlighted with 20-40% of 2"+ through 12z . Given
    slow cell motions and position relative to the deeper cyclone and=20
    fairly saturated soils over the last few days is sufficient to=20
    highlight a small separate Slight Risk area.=20

    Further North (ID/WY): A subtle vorticity center is lifting north=20
    through the northern Great Basin toward the Snake River Plain; Hi-
    Res CAMs indicate slightly better instability from 250-500 J/kg may
    allow for scattered mountain anchored convection through the
    afternoon/evening trending northward toward Tetons and Ranges=20
    across SE ID/far W WY. Enough so, to expand the Marginal Risk=20
    northward to encompass the increase in potential.=20

    Southeast: Forecast remains on track, solid onshore flow and
    enhanced deep layer moisture values over 2-2.25 and some weak
    500-1000 J/kg of CAPE should allow for scattered thunderstorm
    activity capable of locally intense rates. Only minor adjustments
    were made to the Marginal Risk line.=20

    Gallina

    ~~~~Prior Discussion~~~~~

    ...Four Corners/Southwest...
    An upper trough centered over the Southwest will continue
    directing mid-level vortices northward through the Four Corners
    region today. Moisture from Tropical Cyclone Narda in the East
    Pacific will continue surging north into the Four Corners, where
    scattered showers and thunderstorms are likely to proliferate throughout
    the day. PWATs between 1-1.5 inches within the right entrance
    region of the upper jet and modest instability around 500-1000+
    J/Kg (MLCAPE) could yield rain rates between 0.5-1 in./hr.,
    especially where the slight risk is currently drawn. Burn scars,
    scars slot canyons and upslope areas within the risk areas are
    especially vulnerable to flash flooding.

    HREF's neighborhood exceedance probabilities of 2 in. in 24 hours
    are between 25-50% while EAS probabilities of exceeding 0.5 in.
    hover around 20-40% within the depicted slight risk area.


    ...Southeast...
    An upper trough will pivot eastward over the Southeast while
    moisture from T.C. Nine continues surging northward toward the
    Southeast Coast. Current guidance keeps the axis of heaviest QPF
    offshore, but enough moisture may propagate far enough north and
    west to interact with a surface front draped along the coast and
    produce localized excessive rainfall. HREF EAS exceedance
    probabilities of 1 inch in 24 hours are between 5-15% along much
    of the Carolina Coast today, which supports the marginal risk area
    depicted.

    Kebede

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025

    ...THERE'S A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    CAROLINA COAST...

    ...Southeast...
    Guidance continue to depict T.C. Nine propagating north toward the
    Southeast Coast on Monday, while a surface front draped along the
    coast acts as the focus for heavy rainfall. QPF has trended
    downward given slowing trends in the track of T.C. Nine on Monday.
    The GFS suite in particular diverges most from the Canadian and
    Euro suites when depicting the system's slower forward motion.
    Despite this, enough moisture should work its way into the coast
    and interact with the surface front to generate scattered thunderstorms. There'll be enough moisture (1.5-2.5in PWATs) and instability
    (1000+ J/KG MUCAPE) present to support rainfall rates in excess of
    1 in./hr..

    ...Northern California/Great Basin/Southern Cascades...
    An upper low centered over the East Pacific will send mid-level
    vortices into the West Coast on Monday. Pacific moisture may
    collide with the remnant tropical moisture from Narda to produce
    heavy rainfall from northern California into the Great Basin.
    Synoptic forcing provided by a strong surface cold front should
    focus PWATs in the range of 0.75-1.25 in. to produce quarter inch
    rain rates along the immediate coast. More robust instability over
    the Great Basin should yield higher rain rates between 0.5-1
    in./hr. in some areas. Upslope enhancement may generate higher
    totals in parts of the terrain.

    Kebede

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025 - 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025

    ...THERE'S A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    CAROLINA COAST...

    ...Southeast...
    The inherited marginal and slight risk areas along the Southeast
    Coast were downsized based on trends in the guidance suggesting
    T.C. Nine's hard turn out to sea on Tuesday. Despite the resulting
    smaller QPF footprint than previous cycles, the flash flood risk
    remains. Instability will be negligible (less than 500 J/Kg
    MUCAPE), which supports the possibility that the flood threat will be
    due to runoff over saturated soils from Sunday and Monday's
    rainfall. Exceedance probabilities of over 2 inches is over 10% in
    the 00z ECENS/CMCE, while below 10% in the GEFS along the
    immediate Carolina Coast.

    Kebede


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    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6uFAzqYdJ_L88XfT5_yzene3C0vAwFQe-dS9asUoHY2O= tb-02gXBFHsvM_b7AEC68SWxmlR637fniM7cMsFfs82RwyM$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6uFAzqYdJ_L88XfT5_yzene3C0vAwFQe-dS9asUoHY2O= tb-02gXBFHsvM_b7AEC68SWxmlR637fniM7cMsFfIs1Rpx0$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 281927
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    327 PM EDT Sun Sep 28 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sun Sep 28 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS MUCH OF NEW
    MEXICO AND PORTIONS OF FAR WESTERN TEXAS/SOUTHERN COLORADO, AS=20
    WELL AS, PORTIONS OF NORTHWEST ARIZONA...

    16z update:
    New Mexico/West TX Panhandle: Mid-level sub-tropical moisture
    continues to stream northward through the leading height-
    falls/outer edge of deep-layer cyclone across Western TX Panhandle
    through the Sacramento Mountains and points northward. Reinforcing
    surface to boundary layer moisture return through up- slope process
    will maintain 1-1.25" total PWats. Embedded mid-level impulses
    through the large base of the cyclone will allow for multiple
    rounds across S NM/W TX Panhandle to maintain the Slight Risk.

    Southwest (N AZ): Near the northwest edge of the inner core of the
    upper- low in NW AZ, there remains a slightly enhanced signal for
    increased rainfall rates/totals per HREF probs and 12z Hi-Res CAMs.
    Enough so to be highlighted with 20-40% of 2"+ through 12z . Given
    slow cell motions and position relative to the deeper cyclone and
    fairly saturated soils over the last few days is sufficient to
    highlight a small separate Slight Risk area.

    Further North (ID/WY): A subtle vorticity center is lifting north
    through the northern Great Basin toward the Snake River Plain; Hi-
    Res CAMs indicate slightly better instability from 250-500 J/kg may
    allow for scattered mountain anchored convection through the
    afternoon/evening trending northward toward Tetons and Ranges
    across SE ID/far W WY. Enough so, to expand the Marginal Risk
    northward to encompass the increase in potential.

    Southeast: Forecast remains on track, solid onshore flow and
    enhanced deep layer moisture values over 2-2.25 and some weak
    500-1000 J/kg of CAPE should allow for scattered thunderstorm
    activity capable of locally intense rates. Only minor adjustments
    were made to the Marginal Risk line.

    Gallina

    ~~~~Prior Discussion~~~~~

    ...Four Corners/Southwest...
    An upper trough centered over the Southwest will continue
    directing mid-level vortices northward through the Four Corners
    region today. Moisture from Tropical Cyclone Narda in the East
    Pacific will continue surging north into the Four Corners, where
    scattered showers and thunderstorms are likely to proliferate throughout
    the day. PWATs between 1-1.5 inches within the right entrance
    region of the upper jet and modest instability around 500-1000+
    J/Kg (MLCAPE) could yield rain rates between 0.5-1 in./hr.,
    especially where the slight risk is currently drawn. Burn scars,
    scars slot canyons and upslope areas within the risk areas are
    especially vulnerable to flash flooding.

    HREF's neighborhood exceedance probabilities of 2 in. in 24 hours
    are between 25-50% while EAS probabilities of exceeding 0.5 in.
    hover around 20-40% within the depicted slight risk area.


    ...Southeast...
    An upper trough will pivot eastward over the Southeast while
    moisture from T.C. Nine continues surging northward toward the
    Southeast Coast. Current guidance keeps the axis of heaviest QPF
    offshore, but enough moisture may propagate far enough north and
    west to interact with a surface front draped along the coast and
    produce localized excessive rainfall. HREF EAS exceedance
    probabilities of 1 inch in 24 hours are between 5-15% along much
    of the Carolina Coast today, which supports the marginal risk area
    depicted.

    Kebede

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR THE IMMEDIATE=20
    CAROLINA COASTLINE...

    21z update:

    ...Central New Mexico...
    Upper-level trough across the Southwest continues to march east-=20
    northeast, filling fairly rapidly as it reaches the Four Corners in
    the early forecast period. This has diminished overall wind field=20
    and pushed the deeper warm conveyor/moisture plume into the Plains.
    However, lingering sufficient moisture (.75"-1"), modest=20
    divergence aloft at least initially,clearing for solid insolation=20
    and solid lapse rates (500 J/kg) aloft will allow for potential for
    stronger thunderstorms along the Sacramento Range. While the=20
    overall intensity and potential for higher rates is reducing=20
    relative to prior days, there is sufficient rainfall rate/total=20
    signals with 12z HREF probability of 50% of 2"+ and even a small=20
    15% or 3" totals across the Sacramento Range and ridge lines east=20
    of the Rio Grande Valley. As such, will include a small Marginal=20
    Risk area across the ridge of south-central to central New Mexico.

    ...Southeast...
    Strong easterly onshore flow will continue and in proximity to the
    coastal front, weak elevated showers and embedded convective=20
    elements are expected along/downstream across the western Piedmont=20
    into the foothills of the southern Appalachian Range, combined with
    upslope enhancement localized 1-2" totals are possible and have=20
    expanded the Marginal Risk slightly westward into the eastern=20
    slopes of the Appalachians.

    However, the trends for T.S. Imelda remain slow with a sharp=20
    eastward turn, further shifting the QPF gradient southeastward and
    offshore relative to prior cycles. However, strong confluent flow=20
    in proximity to the coastal front and Gulf Stream may allow for=20
    scattered thunderstorms to remain possible very close to the=20
    beaches of southeast North Carolina and the South Carolina coast.=20
    Higher probabilities suggest strongest rates/totals will remain=20
    offshore. While there was some solid consideration for removing the
    Slight Risk from this update; collaboration with the local=20
    forecast offices and a few remaining solutions that bring the=20
    surface rooted frontal convection further north to the coast have=20
    maintained a narrow Slight Risk mainly for the coastal cities of=20
    Northeast SC/Southeast NC.=20

    ...Northern California/Great Basin/Idaho,W Montana Rockies...
    The sharp, elongated meridional trough axis has trended a bit
    faster in the northern portion to allow for a slightly more evolved
    wave along the frontal zone reaching far NW California Coast,
    increasing duration of moderate onshore rainfall allowing for a
    slight northward expansion of the Marginal Risk across SW OR.
    Additionally, the upstream strong shortwave originating from
    Kamchatka, rapidly advances and deepens the upstream wave and
    further narrows the spacing between it and the leading wave. This
    provides increased downstream divergence across the Great Basin
    into the Idaho/Montana Rockies, while also strengthening the cross
    Sierra Nevada flow to allow for a favorable back-building regime
    across western Nevada (just east of the natural rain shadow of the
    Sierra Nevada Range). Potential repeating convective elements=20
    across N NV, SE OR and SW ID show an uptick in rainfall totals=20
    with even some HREF probabilities of 1"/hr toward late evening,=20
    early overnight period. Instability is a bit better along the
    upwind edge reaching near 1000 J/kg across the Great Basin enough=20
    that 2"/12hr probabilities are nearing 50% in central NV. At this=20
    time, confidence is increasing, but not enough to delineate any=20
    Slight Risk area at this time.=20

    Gallina


    ~~~~Prior Discussion~~~~

    ...Southeast...
    Guidance continue to depict T.C. Nine propagating north toward the
    Southeast Coast on Monday, while a surface front draped along the
    coast acts as the focus for heavy rainfall. QPF has trended
    downward given slowing trends in the track of T.C. Nine on Monday.
    The GFS suite in particular diverges most from the Canadian and
    Euro suites when depicting the system's slower forward motion.
    Despite this, enough moisture should work its way into the coast
    and interact with the surface front to generate scattered thunderstorms. There'll be enough moisture (1.5-2.5in PWATs) and instability
    (1000+ J/KG MUCAPE) present to support rainfall rates in excess of
    1 in./hr..

    ...Northern California/Great Basin/Southern Cascades...
    An upper low centered over the East Pacific will send mid-level
    vortices into the West Coast on Monday. Pacific moisture may
    collide with the remnant tropical moisture from Narda to produce
    heavy rainfall from northern California into the Great Basin.
    Synoptic forcing provided by a strong surface cold front should
    focus PWATs in the range of 0.75-1.25 in. to produce quarter inch
    rain rates along the immediate coast. More robust instability over
    the Great Basin should yield higher rain rates between 0.5-1
    in./hr. in some areas. Upslope enhancement may generate higher
    totals in parts of the terrain.

    Kebede

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025 - 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR THE GRAND
    STRAND AND SOUTHEAST NORTH CAROLINA...

    21z update:
    ...Southeast...
    As noted above in Day 2, the trends for Day 3 QPF are even further
    offshore as the sharp eastward turn of T.S. Imelda is expected. The
    coastal front and general confluent flow along the Gulf Stream
    north and northwest of the developing system will keep some risk of thunderstorm activity in the vicinity of the coastal cites. Much
    like Day 2, there was a strong consideration for full removal of
    the Slight Risk, however, in coordination with the local forecast
    offices felt removal may be premature, with some scattered
    thunderstorms in the area with potential for training/back-
    building off the Gulf Stream instability gradient and now lies=20
    along the urban centers of the Grand Strand through Wilmington, NC.

    ...Intermountain West...
    At the start of the Day 3 period (30.12z), the end of the Hi-Res
    CAM window, most show some organized showers and embedded
    convective activity along and east of unseasonably strong Pacific
    cold front. Initial meridional mid-level trough will be weakening,
    but upstream stronger trough will be sharpening the flow and
    maintaining favorable divergent flow aloft to provide larger scale
    ascent. Highly anomalous moisture with 2.5-4 standard anomaly
    values in the .75"+ range remain confluent on 15-25kts of=20
    850-700mb southwesterly flow. The remaining Hi-Res CAMs (Nam-Nest=20
    and GEM Regional), along with global guidance (GFS/ECMWF) suggest=20
    some weak remaining instability/weak lapse rates to support some=20
    continued convective activity through the early morning. Some=20
    insolation could help recharge the upper reaches of the Snake River
    Basin and combined with solid upslope flow may reinvigorate=20
    convective activity across the terrain of SE ID into W WY.=20
    Scattered spots of 1-2" are possible. This atypical moisture regime
    and solid dynamic forcing suggest introduction (supported by=20
    continuation from Day 2 period) of a Marginal Risk across the=20
    northern Great Basin into the Snake River Basin for Day 3.

    Gallina

    ~~~~Prior Discussion~~~~
    ...Southeast...
    The inherited marginal and slight risk areas along the Southeast
    Coast were downsized based on trends in the guidance suggesting
    T.C. Nine's hard turn out to sea on Tuesday. Despite the resulting
    smaller QPF footprint than previous cycles, the flash flood risk
    remains. Instability will be negligible (less than 500 J/Kg
    MUCAPE), which supports the possibility that the flood threat will be
    due to runoff over saturated soils from Sunday and Monday's
    rainfall. Exceedance probabilities of over 2 inches is over 10% in
    the 00z ECENS/CMCE, while below 10% in the GEFS along the
    immediate Carolina Coast.

    Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7Gi7bJL_28qHTZbLJ7t8gEZfIhBvOnWS1dGIwrpEhaWf= bh98BRF8eUlsoYd3fODOPIj2o0eXdDbahEmRZQlfksTb7vY$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7Gi7bJL_28qHTZbLJ7t8gEZfIhBvOnWS1dGIwrpEhaWf= bh98BRF8eUlsoYd3fODOPIj2o0eXdDbahEmRZQlfzQtim78$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7Gi7bJL_28qHTZbLJ7t8gEZfIhBvOnWS1dGIwrpEhaWf= bh98BRF8eUlsoYd3fODOPIj2o0eXdDbahEmRZQlfpRL4bNk$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Mon Sep 29 00:35:55 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 290035
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    835 PM EDT Sun Sep 28 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Mon Sep 29 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS=20
    OF THE SOUTHWEST AND COASTAL SOUTHEAST...

    ...Southwest...
    We will maintain a Marginal risk area over NM into far west TX=20
    with this update. A few more hours of locally intense convection=20
    can be expected, with increasing low level easterly flow helping=20
    support some continued development through the evening hours. The=20 expectation is that instability will erode overnight resulting in a
    decrease in convective coverage and intensity. Generally think the
    coverage of any additional flash flood risk has decreased enough=20
    to remove the Slight and let the Marginal cover the threat.

    ...Southeast...
    A Marginal risk was maintained from the east coast of FL into
    eastern North Carolina. Across FL, onshore flow north of Imelda is
    helping enhance coastal convergence and resulting in localized
    areas of slow moving convection. This should continue through the
    overnight hours, and isolated rainfall totals over 3" are possible.

    Farther up the coast we have a stationary front just offshore, with
    moisture well north of Imelda interacting with this front. We also
    have the mid level trough and upper jet over the Southeast. As the
    night progresses we will probably see some of this rain offshore=20
    move inland across the Carolinas, with the aforementioned trough=20
    and jet helping support this inland advancement. Most of this=20
    activity will likely be lower rate rainfall given the low level=20 northeasterly flow and lack of instability. However we may be able=20
    to get some higher rates into immediate coastal areas closer to=20
    the stationary front. 18z/12z HREF and REFS runs had the higher 3"=20 probabilities along the SC coast, however more recent HRRR and RRFS
    runs are shifting towards the NC coast. Recent radar trends also=20
    seem to point towards far southeast NC as seeing the best chance of
    some slow moving low topped convection getting onshore, which=20
    could locally drop upwards of 3" of rainfall. Overall the flash=20
    flood threat appears pretty localized along these coastal areas=20
    from FL into NC, but the risk is non-zero and a Marginal risk will=20
    be maintained.

    Chenard

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR THE IMMEDIATE
    CAROLINA COASTLINE...

    21z update:

    ...Central New Mexico...
    Upper-level trough across the Southwest continues to march east-
    northeast, filling fairly rapidly as it reaches the Four Corners in
    the early forecast period. This has diminished overall wind field
    and pushed the deeper warm conveyor/moisture plume into the Plains.
    However, lingering sufficient moisture (.75"-1"), modest
    divergence aloft at least initially,clearing for solid insolation
    and solid lapse rates (500 J/kg) aloft will allow for potential for
    stronger thunderstorms along the Sacramento Range. While the
    overall intensity and potential for higher rates is reducing
    relative to prior days, there is sufficient rainfall rate/total
    signals with 12z HREF probability of 50% of 2"+ and even a small
    15% or 3" totals across the Sacramento Range and ridge lines east
    of the Rio Grande Valley. As such, will include a small Marginal
    Risk area across the ridge of south-central to central New Mexico.

    ...Southeast...
    Strong easterly onshore flow will continue and in proximity to the
    coastal front, weak elevated showers and embedded convective
    elements are expected along/downstream across the western Piedmont
    into the foothills of the southern Appalachian Range, combined with
    upslope enhancement localized 1-2" totals are possible and have
    expanded the Marginal Risk slightly westward into the eastern
    slopes of the Appalachians.

    However, the trends for T.S. Imelda remain slow with a sharp
    eastward turn, further shifting the QPF gradient southeastward and
    offshore relative to prior cycles. However, strong confluent flow
    in proximity to the coastal front and Gulf Stream may allow for
    scattered thunderstorms to remain possible very close to the
    beaches of southeast North Carolina and the South Carolina coast.
    Higher probabilities suggest strongest rates/totals will remain
    offshore. While there was some solid consideration for removing the
    Slight Risk from this update; collaboration with the local
    forecast offices and a few remaining solutions that bring the
    surface rooted frontal convection further north to the coast have
    maintained a narrow Slight Risk mainly for the coastal cities of
    Northeast SC/Southeast NC.

    ...Northern California/Great Basin/Idaho,W Montana Rockies...
    The sharp, elongated meridional trough axis has trended a bit
    faster in the northern portion to allow for a slightly more evolved
    wave along the frontal zone reaching far NW California Coast,
    increasing duration of moderate onshore rainfall allowing for a
    slight northward expansion of the Marginal Risk across SW OR.
    Additionally, the upstream strong shortwave originating from
    Kamchatka, rapidly advances and deepens the upstream wave and
    further narrows the spacing between it and the leading wave. This
    provides increased downstream divergence across the Great Basin
    into the Idaho/Montana Rockies, while also strengthening the cross
    Sierra Nevada flow to allow for a favorable back-building regime
    across western Nevada (just east of the natural rain shadow of the
    Sierra Nevada Range). Potential repeating convective elements
    across N NV, SE OR and SW ID show an uptick in rainfall totals
    with even some HREF probabilities of 1"/hr toward late evening,
    early overnight period. Instability is a bit better along the
    upwind edge reaching near 1000 J/kg across the Great Basin enough
    that 2"/12hr probabilities are nearing 50% in central NV. At this
    time, confidence is increasing, but not enough to delineate any
    Slight Risk area at this time.

    Gallina


    ~~~~Prior Discussion~~~~

    ...Southeast...
    Guidance continue to depict T.C. Nine propagating north toward the
    Southeast Coast on Monday, while a surface front draped along the
    coast acts as the focus for heavy rainfall. QPF has trended
    downward given slowing trends in the track of T.C. Nine on Monday.
    The GFS suite in particular diverges most from the Canadian and
    Euro suites when depicting the system's slower forward motion.
    Despite this, enough moisture should work its way into the coast
    and interact with the surface front to generate scattered thunderstorms. There'll be enough moisture (1.5-2.5in PWATs) and instability
    (1000+ J/KG MUCAPE) present to support rainfall rates in excess of
    1 in./hr..

    ...Northern California/Great Basin/Southern Cascades...
    An upper low centered over the East Pacific will send mid-level
    vortices into the West Coast on Monday. Pacific moisture may
    collide with the remnant tropical moisture from Narda to produce
    heavy rainfall from northern California into the Great Basin.
    Synoptic forcing provided by a strong surface cold front should
    focus PWATs in the range of 0.75-1.25 in. to produce quarter inch
    rain rates along the immediate coast. More robust instability over
    the Great Basin should yield higher rain rates between 0.5-1
    in./hr. in some areas. Upslope enhancement may generate higher
    totals in parts of the terrain.

    Kebede

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025 - 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR THE GRAND
    STRAND AND SOUTHEAST NORTH CAROLINA...

    21z update:
    ...Southeast...
    As noted above in Day 2, the trends for Day 3 QPF are even further
    offshore as the sharp eastward turn of T.S. Imelda is expected. The
    coastal front and general confluent flow along the Gulf Stream
    north and northwest of the developing system will keep some risk of thunderstorm activity in the vicinity of the coastal cites. Much
    like Day 2, there was a strong consideration for full removal of
    the Slight Risk, however, in coordination with the local forecast
    offices felt removal may be premature, with some scattered
    thunderstorms in the area with potential for training/back-
    building off the Gulf Stream instability gradient and now lies
    along the urban centers of the Grand Strand through Wilmington, NC.

    ...Intermountain West...
    At the start of the Day 3 period (30.12z), the end of the Hi-Res
    CAM window, most show some organized showers and embedded
    convective activity along and east of unseasonably strong Pacific
    cold front. Initial meridional mid-level trough will be weakening,
    but upstream stronger trough will be sharpening the flow and
    maintaining favorable divergent flow aloft to provide larger scale
    ascent. Highly anomalous moisture with 2.5-4 standard anomaly
    values in the .75"+ range remain confluent on 15-25kts of
    850-700mb southwesterly flow. The remaining Hi-Res CAMs (Nam-Nest
    and GEM Regional), along with global guidance (GFS/ECMWF) suggest
    some weak remaining instability/weak lapse rates to support some
    continued convective activity through the early morning. Some
    insolation could help recharge the upper reaches of the Snake River
    Basin and combined with solid upslope flow may reinvigorate
    convective activity across the terrain of SE ID into W WY.
    Scattered spots of 1-2" are possible. This atypical moisture regime
    and solid dynamic forcing suggest introduction (supported by
    continuation from Day 2 period) of a Marginal Risk across the
    northern Great Basin into the Snake River Basin for Day 3.

    Gallina

    ~~~~Prior Discussion~~~~
    ...Southeast...
    The inherited marginal and slight risk areas along the Southeast
    Coast were downsized based on trends in the guidance suggesting
    T.C. Nine's hard turn out to sea on Tuesday. Despite the resulting
    smaller QPF footprint than previous cycles, the flash flood risk
    remains. Instability will be negligible (less than 500 J/Kg
    MUCAPE), which supports the possibility that the flood threat will be
    due to runoff over saturated soils from Sunday and Monday's
    rainfall. Exceedance probabilities of over 2 inches is over 10% in
    the 00z ECENS/CMCE, while below 10% in the GEFS along the
    immediate Carolina Coast.

    Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9yPOzGL9oyHiBEtiIushDRM9R_t6bGNc0FUruPl0c_5X= vkxXC8CV9jQJNW7EiYKk3oUh7c0Zrl_OVAejQjbu7juiK_0$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9yPOzGL9oyHiBEtiIushDRM9R_t6bGNc0FUruPl0c_5X= vkxXC8CV9jQJNW7EiYKk3oUh7c0Zrl_OVAejQjbu5RVs0Eo$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9yPOzGL9oyHiBEtiIushDRM9R_t6bGNc0FUruPl0c_5X= vkxXC8CV9jQJNW7EiYKk3oUh7c0Zrl_OVAejQjbu8X3o1Wg$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 290830
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    430 AM EDT Mon Sep 29 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Mon Sep 29 2025 - 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025

    ...THERE ARE MARGINAL RISKS OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF=20
    NORTHERN CALIFORNIA, SOUTHWESTERN OREGON, THE GREAT BASIN, SOUTH-
    CENTRAL NEW MEXICO AND THE SOUTHEAST...

    ...Carolinas...
    Moisture from tropical storm Imelda is expected to continue=20
    streaming into the Southeast Coast today. A surface front draped=20
    off the coast should provide forcing for thunderstorm development=20
    beginning this morning. Convective bands may work their way into a=20
    moisture rich environment in the Carolinas, where PWATs will be=20
    between 1.5-2.25in.. MUCAPE between 250-500 J/Kg will spread=20
    inland throughout the day, but the greatest convective potential=20
    will be within the bands that propagate inland through North=20
    Carolina this morning and afternoon. Neighborhood probabilities of=20
    exceeding 2 inches of rainfall in 24 hours are between 15-30% over=20
    parts of western and central North Carolina today.

    Despite the presence of deep tropical moisture, much of the
    convection and heaviest rainfall associated with Imelda should stay
    offshore closer to Imelda and the draped front.

    ...Northern California/Great Basin...
    A deep upper low centered over the Gulf of Alaska will send waves
    of low pressure into the West Coast over the next couple of days.=20
    A strong cold front may bring heavy rainfall to portions of=20
    Northern California up into southern Oregon and the Great Basin=20
    today. A weak instability gradient will develop ahead of the front=20
    this afternoon and during peak heating. The 00z HREF suggest up to=20 0.25in./hr. rates across the coastal ranges, southern Cascades and=20
    northern Sierra, with potential for upslope enhancement across=20
    windward facing slopes.=20

    EAS 24 hour 1 inch exceedance probabilities are over 45% along the
    coast and southern Cascades, while a more modest 5-15% chance=20
    remains over the Great Basin. There's a steep drop off in=20
    probabilities once you get into the 2 inch exceedance range.

    ...South-central New Mexico...
    There continues to be a signal for heavy rainfall over much of the
    Sacramento Mountains, where instability (500-1000 J/Kg MLCAPE)
    could support thunderstorm development and propagation into the
    mountains early this evening. Much of the state has already
    received over a half inch of rainfall in the past 24 hours with
    pockets of 2 inch amounts present including within the Sacramento
    Mountains. This may contribute to susceptibility of soils to runoff
    from additional rain. Burn Scars such as the Ft. Stanton Piles
    prescribed burn area are especially susceptible to flash flooding.


    Kebede

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE GREAT BASIN AND NORTHERN ROCKIES...

    The marginal risk area inherited from the previous cycle was mostly
    maintained with an expansion south into central Utah due to trends
    in the guidance. The cold front responsible for heavy rainfall
    potential in northern California on Monday will propagate through
    the Great Basin and Northern Rockies on Tuesday, focusing
    additional instability and moisture along its convergence zone.
    Ensemble exceedance probabilities of 0.5 inches in 24 hours are=20
    between 5-25% over parts of northeastern Nevada, northern Utah,
    southeastern Idaho and western Wyoming. The progressive nature of
    the front should mitigate flash flooding concerns.

    Kebede

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025 - 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE OLYMPIC PENINSULA...

    A shortwave propagating through the southern periphery of the Gulf
    of Alaska low will phase with it and move just off of the British
    Columbia Coast by Wednesday. This new system will send a cold=20
    front into the Pacific Northwest. The proximity of the upper low
    and associated vorticity lobes should destabilize the environment=20
    (100-300 J/Kg MUCAPE) enough to support isolated thunderstorm=20
    activity. Favorable RER dynamics and mid-level moisture=20
    advection should support efficient rain rates especially over the=20
    Olympic Mountains. ECENS 24 hour exceedance probabilities of 2=20
    inches is between 20-40% for much of the area.


    Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!982xJkrpFgC71mUHP6iNhc8sD5AKYCZ6MNJsaAZUo7UN= 3yD6iSxI4FKSW_naOhtnUdVwHmS5qZf5nOsyJuDPIQqfngc$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!982xJkrpFgC71mUHP6iNhc8sD5AKYCZ6MNJsaAZUo7UN= 3yD6iSxI4FKSW_naOhtnUdVwHmS5qZf5nOsyJuDPxFFDGMY$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!982xJkrpFgC71mUHP6iNhc8sD5AKYCZ6MNJsaAZUo7UN= 3yD6iSxI4FKSW_naOhtnUdVwHmS5qZf5nOsyJuDPTRCoIrA$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 291543
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1143 AM EDT Mon Sep 29 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 29 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025

    ...THERE ARE MARGINAL RISKS OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    NORTHERN CALIFORNIA, SOUTHWESTERN OREGON, THE GREAT BASIN, SOUTH-
    CENTRAL NEW MEXICO AND THE SOUTHEAST...

    16z update:
    12z Hi-Res CAMs and HREF probabilities remain on track with only
    small adjustments made for the West and Southeast.

    CIRA LPW suite shows deeper layer (850-500 layers) show lingering=20
    moisture remains across central NM than initially forecast over the
    last few days, with some weak intrusion noted from the south. As
    such, 12z Hi-Res solutions continue to show scattered thunderstorms
    across along the ranges west of the Rio Grande in New Mexico. Given
    recent rains, saturation and scattered flooding instances over the
    past few days; the potential remains for similar if relatively
    slightly reduced to have inclusion into the Marginal Risk already
    in place over the Sacramento Range, further east.=20=20

    Gallina


    ~~~~Prior Discussion~~~~
    ...Carolinas...
    Moisture from tropical storm Imelda is expected to continue
    streaming into the Southeast Coast today. A surface front draped
    off the coast should provide forcing for thunderstorm development
    beginning this morning. Convective bands may work their way into a
    moisture rich environment in the Carolinas, where PWATs will be
    between 1.5-2.25in.. MUCAPE between 250-500 J/Kg will spread
    inland throughout the day, but the greatest convective potential
    will be within the bands that propagate inland through North
    Carolina this morning and afternoon. Neighborhood probabilities of
    exceeding 2 inches of rainfall in 24 hours are between 15-30% over
    parts of western and central North Carolina today.

    Despite the presence of deep tropical moisture, much of the
    convection and heaviest rainfall associated with Imelda should stay
    offshore closer to Imelda and the draped front.

    ...Northern California/Great Basin...
    A deep upper low centered over the Gulf of Alaska will send waves
    of low pressure into the West Coast over the next couple of days.
    A strong cold front may bring heavy rainfall to portions of
    Northern California up into southern Oregon and the Great Basin
    today. A weak instability gradient will develop ahead of the front
    this afternoon and during peak heating. The 00z HREF suggest up to
    0.25in./hr. rates across the coastal ranges, southern Cascades and
    northern Sierra, with potential for upslope enhancement across
    windward facing slopes.

    EAS 24 hour 1 inch exceedance probabilities are over 45% along the
    coast and southern Cascades, while a more modest 5-15% chance
    remains over the Great Basin. There's a steep drop off in
    probabilities once you get into the 2 inch exceedance range.

    ...South-central New Mexico...
    There continues to be a signal for heavy rainfall over much of the
    Sacramento Mountains, where instability (500-1000 J/Kg MLCAPE)
    could support thunderstorm development and propagation into the
    mountains early this evening. Much of the state has already
    received over a half inch of rainfall in the past 24 hours with
    pockets of 2 inch amounts present including within the Sacramento
    Mountains. This may contribute to susceptibility of soils to runoff
    from additional rain. Burn Scars such as the Ft. Stanton Piles
    prescribed burn area are especially susceptible to flash flooding.


    Kebede

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025 - 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE GREAT BASIN AND NORTHERN ROCKIES...

    The marginal risk area inherited from the previous cycle was mostly
    maintained with an expansion south into central Utah due to trends
    in the guidance. The cold front responsible for heavy rainfall
    potential in northern California on Monday will propagate through
    the Great Basin and Northern Rockies on Tuesday, focusing
    additional instability and moisture along its convergence zone.
    Ensemble exceedance probabilities of 0.5 inches in 24 hours are
    between 5-25% over parts of northeastern Nevada, northern Utah,
    southeastern Idaho and western Wyoming. The progressive nature of
    the front should mitigate flash flooding concerns.

    Kebede

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025 - 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE OLYMPIC PENINSULA...

    A shortwave propagating through the southern periphery of the Gulf
    of Alaska low will phase with it and move just off of the British
    Columbia Coast by Wednesday. This new system will send a cold
    front into the Pacific Northwest. The proximity of the upper low
    and associated vorticity lobes should destabilize the environment
    (100-300 J/Kg MUCAPE) enough to support isolated thunderstorm
    activity. Favorable RER dynamics and mid-level moisture
    advection should support efficient rain rates especially over the
    Olympic Mountains. ECENS 24 hour exceedance probabilities of 2
    inches is between 20-40% for much of the area.


    Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7R3QU7EDUpQtdR0ldkFCz08OwHtNfe08opkv3pj545bJ= y25nrhkJzxbavbWWvUtmkntXjSeKlNuKw3oXu1mzmzcbNhA$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7R3QU7EDUpQtdR0ldkFCz08OwHtNfe08opkv3pj545bJ= y25nrhkJzxbavbWWvUtmkntXjSeKlNuKw3oXu1mzZTHKTXc$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7R3QU7EDUpQtdR0ldkFCz08OwHtNfe08opkv3pj545bJ= y25nrhkJzxbavbWWvUtmkntXjSeKlNuKw3oXu1mzj0AV47M$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Mon Sep 29 19:24:21 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 291924
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    324 PM EDT Mon Sep 29 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Mon Sep 29 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025

    ...THERE ARE MARGINAL RISKS OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    NORTHERN CALIFORNIA, SOUTHWESTERN OREGON, THE GREAT BASIN, SOUTH-
    CENTRAL NEW MEXICO AND THE SOUTHEAST...

    16z update:
    12z Hi-Res CAMs and HREF probabilities remain on track with only
    small adjustments made for the West and Southeast.

    CIRA LPW suite shows deeper layer (850-500 layers) show lingering
    moisture remains across central NM than initially forecast over the
    last few days, with some weak intrusion noted from the south. As
    such, 12z Hi-Res solutions continue to show scattered thunderstorms
    across along the ranges west of the Rio Grande in New Mexico. Given
    recent rains, saturation and scattered flooding instances over the
    past few days; the potential remains for similar if relatively
    slightly reduced to have inclusion into the Marginal Risk already
    in place over the Sacramento Range, further east.

    Gallina


    ~~~~Prior Discussion~~~~
    ...Carolinas...
    Moisture from tropical storm Imelda is expected to continue
    streaming into the Southeast Coast today. A surface front draped
    off the coast should provide forcing for thunderstorm development
    beginning this morning. Convective bands may work their way into a
    moisture rich environment in the Carolinas, where PWATs will be
    between 1.5-2.25in.. MUCAPE between 250-500 J/Kg will spread
    inland throughout the day, but the greatest convective potential
    will be within the bands that propagate inland through North
    Carolina this morning and afternoon. Neighborhood probabilities of
    exceeding 2 inches of rainfall in 24 hours are between 15-30% over
    parts of western and central North Carolina today.

    Despite the presence of deep tropical moisture, much of the
    convection and heaviest rainfall associated with Imelda should stay
    offshore closer to Imelda and the draped front.

    ...Northern California/Great Basin...
    A deep upper low centered over the Gulf of Alaska will send waves
    of low pressure into the West Coast over the next couple of days.
    A strong cold front may bring heavy rainfall to portions of
    Northern California up into southern Oregon and the Great Basin
    today. A weak instability gradient will develop ahead of the front
    this afternoon and during peak heating. The 00z HREF suggest up to
    0.25in./hr. rates across the coastal ranges, southern Cascades and
    northern Sierra, with potential for upslope enhancement across
    windward facing slopes.

    EAS 24 hour 1 inch exceedance probabilities are over 45% along the
    coast and southern Cascades, while a more modest 5-15% chance
    remains over the Great Basin. There's a steep drop off in
    probabilities once you get into the 2 inch exceedance range.

    ...South-central New Mexico...
    There continues to be a signal for heavy rainfall over much of the
    Sacramento Mountains, where instability (500-1000 J/Kg MLCAPE)
    could support thunderstorm development and propagation into the
    mountains early this evening. Much of the state has already
    received over a half inch of rainfall in the past 24 hours with
    pockets of 2 inch amounts present including within the Sacramento
    Mountains. This may contribute to susceptibility of soils to runoff
    from additional rain. Burn Scars such as the Ft. Stanton Piles
    prescribed burn area are especially susceptible to flash flooding.

    Kebede

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025 - 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE GREAT BASIN AND NORTHERN ROCKIES & OLYMPIC PENINSULA...

    21z update...

    ...Great Basin...
    12z Hi-Res CAMs/HREF and global guidance continue a slightly more
    progressive solutions with respect to the timing of the cold front
    and therefore the moisture flux convergence through the Great Basin
    resulting in a slight southeastward expansion of the Day 2 Marginal
    Risk across east-central NV and portions of west-central UT. Narrow
    streets of training convection within this anomalous moisture=20
    stream with modest remaining instability may result in spots of=20
    .5-1.25" in 1-3 hours, mainly early in the period. Naturally lower=20
    FFG values would suggest scattered incident or two of localized=20
    flash flooding may result, especially along the upwind edge of the=20
    longer overall Marginal area, where backbuilding may be more=20
    likely.=20

    ...Olympic Peninsula...
    Second and slightly stronger warm conveyor belt increases moisture
    flux out of the northeast Pacific. Deep moisture plume of greater
    than 1" total PWat, but may tick up to 1.25" will be advected on
    mainly southerly flow. Given the oblique nature to the Coastal
    Range, mainly the upslope and highest IVT values (peaking around
    600-700 kg/m/s) will intersect the SW facing topography of the
    Olympic Range. A narrow drying period will likely exist after 00z
    toward 06-09z, before the eastern edge of the strengthening core to
    the closed low approaches toward the end of the forecast period,
    01.12z. HREF probability over 50% of 3"/24hrs exists while a few=20
    Hi- Res guidance members tickle the potential of 5"/24hrs (15-20%=20
    for HREF) across the range. Combined with rain on Day 1, and
    continuing into Day 3, felt it appropriate given totals to have a
    low potential of exceedance worthy of a Marginal Risk, matching up
    with the inherited Day 3 Marginal.=20

    Gallina

    ~~~~Prior Discussion~~~~
    The marginal risk area inherited from the previous cycle was=20
    mostly maintained with an expansion south into central Utah due to=20
    trends in the guidance. The cold front responsible for heavy=20
    rainfall potential in northern California on Monday will propagate=20
    through the Great Basin and Northern Rockies on Tuesday, focusing=20
    additional instability and moisture along its convergence zone.=20
    Ensemble exceedance probabilities of 0.5 inches in 24 hours are=20
    between 5-25% over parts of northeastern Nevada, northern Utah,=20
    southeastern Idaho and western Wyoming. The progressive nature of=20
    the front should mitigate flash flooding concerns.

    Kebede

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025 - 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE OLYMPIC PENINSULA...

    21z update...
    No change to the placement of the Day 3 Marginal Risk area, though
    12z global guidance is showing a slight uptick in strength of CAA
    aloft allowing for 250-500 J/kg of elevated CAPE. The overall deep
    layer moisture reduces toward .75" but with prolonged southerly
    flow of 30-40kts, IVT values are persistent around 300-450 kg/m/s
    nearly the entire 24hr period. So consistent light to moderate
    upslope rains will have occasional, short duration bursts of=20
    localized convective cores that will add to saturating soils over=20
    the prolonged 3 day event. An additional 2-4" seems likely, but=20
    given scattered convective nature, will be interesting to see any=20
    localized enhanced totals as we move toward the full Hi-Res CAM=20
    window, but end of 12z NAM-Nest and GEM Regional already hint at=20
    slightly higher values...pretty good for an Atmospheric River=20
    season "opener".

    Gallina

    ~~~~Prior Discussion~~~~
    A shortwave propagating through the southern periphery of the Gulf
    of Alaska low will phase with it and move just off of the British=20
    Columbia Coast by Wednesday. This new system will send a cold front
    into the Pacific Northwest. The proximity of the upper low and=20
    associated vorticity lobes should destabilize the environment=20
    (100-300 J/Kg MUCAPE) enough to support isolated thunderstorm=20
    activity. Favorable RER dynamics and mid- level moisture advection=20
    should support efficient rain rates especially over the Olympic=20
    Mountains. ECENS 24 hour exceedance probabilities of 2 inches is=20
    between 20-40% for much of the area.

    Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-sQU-92vlWcGu0LZO5wPQPp-uxEY55CuVqAppuYI7cRW= D5zaHHmTkJNZ5Xp4BL5p7vuQ526ZeMjbLH-7F64V6FXWu-A$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-sQU-92vlWcGu0LZO5wPQPp-uxEY55CuVqAppuYI7cRW= D5zaHHmTkJNZ5Xp4BL5p7vuQ526ZeMjbLH-7F64VS1Kq71o$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-sQU-92vlWcGu0LZO5wPQPp-uxEY55CuVqAppuYI7cRW= D5zaHHmTkJNZ5Xp4BL5p7vuQ526ZeMjbLH-7F64VTiK09is$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Tue Sep 30 00:58:05 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 300057
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    857 PM EDT Mon Sep 29 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Tue Sep 30 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025

    ...THERE ARE MARGINAL RISKS OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    NORTHERN CALIFORNIA, SOUTHWESTERN OREGON, THE GREAT BASIN AND
    COASTAL NORTH CAROLINA...

    ...West...
    Showers and thunderstorms will continue to move across portions of
    NV and ID tonight. Not a lot of instability to work with, and cells
    are quick moving...thus it seems unlikely we will get high enough=20
    rainfall rates to cause too much of a flash flood concern. However=20
    looks like decent coverage of 0.5" to 1" rainfall, with amounts=20
    locally exceeding 1". Thus we will maintain the Marginal risk as a=20
    very localized flash flood risk can not be ruled out. Also will=20
    need to keep an eye on the northern Sacramento Valley north of=20
    Redding. Recent HRRR runs indicate the potential for slow moving=20
    convection where low level flow locally enhances convergence in the
    terrain.

    ...Southeast...
    A Marginal risk was maintained for coastal areas of NC. Moisture=20
    well to the north of Imelda will continue to interact with the=20
    frontal boundary near the coast producing areas of showers and=20
    locally embedded heavier convection. Still looks like most of the=20
    higher rates will remain offshore overnight, but a few heavier=20
    cells may continue to move into the immediate coast. Overall the=20
    flash flood risk is low, but can not rule out a very localized=20
    issue along areas of coastal NC, where upwards of 2-4" of rain has
    fallen over the past 24 hours. Elsewhere over the Southeast the
    higher rates are expected to stay offshore, with just some showery
    conditions continuing which is unlikely to produce flash flooding.

    Chenard


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025 - 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE GREAT BASIN AND NORTHERN ROCKIES & OLYMPIC PENINSULA...

    21z update...

    ...Great Basin...
    12z Hi-Res CAMs/HREF and global guidance continue a slightly more
    progressive solutions with respect to the timing of the cold front
    and therefore the moisture flux convergence through the Great Basin
    resulting in a slight southeastward expansion of the Day 2 Marginal
    Risk across east-central NV and portions of west-central UT. Narrow
    streets of training convection within this anomalous moisture
    stream with modest remaining instability may result in spots of
    .5-1.25" in 1-3 hours, mainly early in the period. Naturally lower
    FFG values would suggest scattered incident or two of localized
    flash flooding may result, especially along the upwind edge of the
    longer overall Marginal area, where backbuilding may be more
    likely.

    ...Olympic Peninsula...
    Second and slightly stronger warm conveyor belt increases moisture
    flux out of the northeast Pacific. Deep moisture plume of greater
    than 1" total PWat, but may tick up to 1.25" will be advected on
    mainly southerly flow. Given the oblique nature to the Coastal
    Range, mainly the upslope and highest IVT values (peaking around
    600-700 kg/m/s) will intersect the SW facing topography of the
    Olympic Range. A narrow drying period will likely exist after 00z
    toward 06-09z, before the eastern edge of the strengthening core to
    the closed low approaches toward the end of the forecast period,
    01.12z. HREF probability over 50% of 3"/24hrs exists while a few
    Hi- Res guidance members tickle the potential of 5"/24hrs (15-20%
    for HREF) across the range. Combined with rain on Day 1, and
    continuing into Day 3, felt it appropriate given totals to have a
    low potential of exceedance worthy of a Marginal Risk, matching up
    with the inherited Day 3 Marginal.

    Gallina

    ~~~~Prior Discussion~~~~
    The marginal risk area inherited from the previous cycle was
    mostly maintained with an expansion south into central Utah due to
    trends in the guidance. The cold front responsible for heavy
    rainfall potential in northern California on Monday will propagate
    through the Great Basin and Northern Rockies on Tuesday, focusing
    additional instability and moisture along its convergence zone.
    Ensemble exceedance probabilities of 0.5 inches in 24 hours are
    between 5-25% over parts of northeastern Nevada, northern Utah,
    southeastern Idaho and western Wyoming. The progressive nature of
    the front should mitigate flash flooding concerns.

    Kebede

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025 - 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE OLYMPIC PENINSULA...

    21z update...
    No change to the placement of the Day 3 Marginal Risk area, though
    12z global guidance is showing a slight uptick in strength of CAA
    aloft allowing for 250-500 J/kg of elevated CAPE. The overall deep
    layer moisture reduces toward .75" but with prolonged southerly
    flow of 30-40kts, IVT values are persistent around 300-450 kg/m/s
    nearly the entire 24hr period. So consistent light to moderate
    upslope rains will have occasional, short duration bursts of
    localized convective cores that will add to saturating soils over
    the prolonged 3 day event. An additional 2-4" seems likely, but
    given scattered convective nature, will be interesting to see any
    localized enhanced totals as we move toward the full Hi-Res CAM
    window, but end of 12z NAM-Nest and GEM Regional already hint at
    slightly higher values...pretty good for an Atmospheric River
    season "opener".

    Gallina

    ~~~~Prior Discussion~~~~
    A shortwave propagating through the southern periphery of the Gulf
    of Alaska low will phase with it and move just off of the British
    Columbia Coast by Wednesday. This new system will send a cold front
    into the Pacific Northwest. The proximity of the upper low and
    associated vorticity lobes should destabilize the environment
    (100-300 J/Kg MUCAPE) enough to support isolated thunderstorm
    activity. Favorable RER dynamics and mid- level moisture advection
    should support efficient rain rates especially over the Olympic
    Mountains. ECENS 24 hour exceedance probabilities of 2 inches is
    between 20-40% for much of the area.

    Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_eS4alwTQPGfJTYKCe9UlUvtB1Er220Iz0r5jfZhpnJ_= DNStGZglIJc3qHTsDLyjiachyN5L_CJcaWC7rAamV1fwndA$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_eS4alwTQPGfJTYKCe9UlUvtB1Er220Iz0r5jfZhpnJ_= DNStGZglIJc3qHTsDLyjiachyN5L_CJcaWC7rAamT4LxE7c$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_eS4alwTQPGfJTYKCe9UlUvtB1Er220Iz0r5jfZhpnJ_= DNStGZglIJc3qHTsDLyjiachyN5L_CJcaWC7rAam8J--Tes$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 300816
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    416 AM EDT Tue Sep 30 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Tue Sep 30 2025 - 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE OLYMPIC MOUNTAINS, GREAT BASIN AND NORTHERN ROCKIES...

    ...Great Basin/Northern Rockies...
    A deep upper low off the British Columbia Coast will send=20
    shortwave energy through the Northwest today. A progressive cold=20
    front will focus showers and thunderstorms over portions of the=20
    Great Basin from northeast Nevada to western Montana/northern=20
    Idaho. MUCAPE values between 100-500J/Kg and PWATs of 0.5-1in.=20
    could produce excessive rainfall through this afternoon. This will=20
    be especially true over portions of eastern Nevada into northern=20
    Utah where 24 hour 1 inch exceedance probabilities are between=20
    20-45%.

    ...Olympics...
    The occluded parent low will direct anomalous Pacific moisture at=20
    the Olympic coast beginning this afternoon. Some weak instability=20
    (<200J/Kg MUCAPE) and PWAT's around 1 inch could produce some cells
    capable of generating efficient rain rates, especially within the=20
    windward side of the Olympics. IVT values between 500-700Kg/ms
    support the excessive rainfall threat with isolated instances of
    flash flooding.

    Kebede

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 30 2025 - 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE OLYMPIC MOUNTAINS...

    The excessive rainfall threat over the Olympics bleeds into
    Wednesday as the upper low arrives off the coast of the Pacific
    Northwest. A jetstreak aloft with MUCAPE around 150J/Kg Wednesday
    morning could support some weak convection into the Olympics.
    Unlike on day 1, maximum IVT values will remain offshore with 1=20
    inch PWATs arriving early Thursday morning. Canadian and Euro
    ensemble 2 inch exceedance probabilities are between 40-60% while=20
    the GEFS 1 inch probabilities are around an inch.=20

    Kebede

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025 - 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE GREAT BASIN AND EASTERN FLORIDA...

    ...Great Basin...
    The upper low is expected to dig into the West Coast on Thursday
    directing diffluent flow and left exit region jet dynamics into the
    Great Basin. Weak instability (100-200J/Kg MUCAPE) along a
    developing cold front could generate thunderstorms capable of=20
    producing some isolated flash flooding, especially over parts of=20
    the Great Basin that received rainfall on Tuesday.

    ...Eastern Florida...
    An upper trough in the Southeast will direct embedded vorticity=20
    into the Florida peninsula on Thursday. An upper ridge centered=20
    over the West Atlantic will advect tropical moisture (PWATs=20
    between 1.5-2in.) into eastern Florida, where it'll interact with=20
    an inverted trough along the coast. Multiple rounds of short fused
    convection will proliferate from the central Gulf across the=20
    Florida Peninsula throughout the day with onshore flow into eastern
    Florida producing isolated instances of flash flooding.=20
    Probabilities of 24 hour qpf exceeding 1 inch is between 15-30%=20
    across eastern Florida. Urban areas are especially susceptible to=20
    flash flooding.

    Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-7W00vFpJiSOKioLBq0E7XQg4GyhtrVCynVHNHK-jESU= GZHX7ffdnWMmniIt1HcA6kg8Ll8VnxlpAn-NAy5YOj_uWVw$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-7W00vFpJiSOKioLBq0E7XQg4GyhtrVCynVHNHK-jESU= GZHX7ffdnWMmniIt1HcA6kg8Ll8VnxlpAn-NAy5YLkFqa1Q$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-7W00vFpJiSOKioLBq0E7XQg4GyhtrVCynVHNHK-jESU= GZHX7ffdnWMmniIt1HcA6kg8Ll8VnxlpAn-NAy5YE8W9YH8$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 301552
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1152 AM EDT Tue Sep 30 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Tue Sep 30 2025 - 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    TREAT BASIN AND NORTHERN ROCKIES...

    ...Great Basin/Northern Rockies...
    ...1600 UTC Update...
    Cut back on the Marginal Risk area a bit, mainly on the western
    side, based on the latest observational trends (radar and
    satellite). Back edge of more concentrated area of heavier rain,=20 colder/higher cloud tops associated with ragged WCB, MUCAPEs of
    250-500 J/Kg, and axis of higher TPWs (>0.75") along and east of=20
    the mid-upper level vort lobe have now shifted east into northeast
    NV. Expect the eastward trend to continue this afternoon, with only
    a low-end marginal (localized) risk of flash flooding. 12Z HREF
    probabilities of >=3D 0.50 in/hr rainfall rates peak between 30-4
    over isolated areas, while maximum probabilities of 1hr QPF
    exceeding current 1hr FFGs are between 15-20 percent.
    3-3.5

    ...Olympics...
    ...1600 UTC Update...
    We have removed the Marginal Risk area across the Olympics. Per=20
    the latest (12Z) guidance, only the NAM CONUS Nest depicts 24hr=20
    totals aoa 3.00". As a result, the 12Z HREF probabilities of 3+
    inches in 24hrs is now only 30-35% over a small area, which is the
    same probability of 0.50 in/hr rates for a brief time this evening
    when the IVTs peak around 600 Kg/m/s.=20

    Hurley

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025 - 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE OLYMPIC MOUNTAINS...

    The excessive rainfall threat over the Olympics bleeds into
    Wednesday as the upper low arrives off the coast of the Pacific
    Northwest. A jetstreak aloft with MUCAPE around 150J/Kg Wednesday
    morning could support some weak convection into the Olympics.
    Unlike on day 1, maximum IVT values will remain offshore with 1
    inch PWATs arriving early Thursday morning. Canadian and Euro
    ensemble 2 inch exceedance probabilities are between 40-60% while
    the GEFS 1 inch probabilities are around an inch.

    Kebede

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025 - 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE GREAT BASIN AND EASTERN FLORIDA...

    ...Great Basin...
    The upper low is expected to dig into the West Coast on Thursday
    directing diffluent flow and left exit region jet dynamics into the
    Great Basin. Weak instability (100-200J/Kg MUCAPE) along a
    developing cold front could generate thunderstorms capable of
    producing some isolated flash flooding, especially over parts of
    the Great Basin that received rainfall on Tuesday.

    ...Eastern Florida...
    An upper trough in the Southeast will direct embedded vorticity
    into the Florida peninsula on Thursday. An upper ridge centered
    over the West Atlantic will advect tropical moisture (PWATs
    between 1.5-2in.) into eastern Florida, where it'll interact with
    an inverted trough along the coast. Multiple rounds of short fused
    convection will proliferate from the central Gulf across the
    Florida Peninsula throughout the day with onshore flow into eastern
    Florida producing isolated instances of flash flooding.
    Probabilities of 24 hour qpf exceeding 1 inch is between 15-30%
    across eastern Florida. Urban areas are especially susceptible to
    flash flooding.

    Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5Fxlxr5W-_Qc-e8pJI8Fn0h_fYySDRGjp110wFDS3cCK= yqJZPiyRvbdP_vgRicht5Ss-sfFX72R3KQxu1KZ2tRqbIKM$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5Fxlxr5W-_Qc-e8pJI8Fn0h_fYySDRGjp110wFDS3cCK= yqJZPiyRvbdP_vgRicht5Ss-sfFX72R3KQxu1KZ2_F9NmIc$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5Fxlxr5W-_Qc-e8pJI8Fn0h_fYySDRGjp110wFDS3cCK= yqJZPiyRvbdP_vgRicht5Ss-sfFX72R3KQxu1KZ24g3kIUM$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 302028
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    428 PM EDT Tue Sep 30 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Tue Sep 30 2025 - 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    TREAT BASIN AND NORTHERN ROCKIES...

    ...Great Basin/Northern Rockies...
    ...1600 UTC Update...
    Cut back on the Marginal Risk area a bit, mainly on the western
    side, based on the latest observational trends (radar and
    satellite). Back edge of more concentrated area of heavier rain,
    colder/higher cloud tops associated with ragged WCB, MUCAPEs of
    250-500 J/Kg, and axis of higher TPWs (>0.75") along and east of
    the mid-upper level vort lobe have now shifted east into northeast
    NV. Expect the eastward trend to continue this afternoon, with only
    a low-end marginal (localized) risk of flash flooding. 12Z HREF
    probabilities of >=3D 0.50 in/hr rainfall rates peak between 30-4
    over isolated areas, while maximum probabilities of 1hr QPF
    exceeding current 1hr FFGs are between 15-20 percent.
    3-3.5

    ...Olympics...
    ...1600 UTC Update...
    We have removed the Marginal Risk area across the Olympics. Per
    the latest (12Z) guidance, only the NAM CONUS Nest depicts 24hr
    totals aoa 3.00". As a result, the 12Z HREF probabilities of 3+
    inches in 24hrs is now only 30-35% over a small area, which is the
    same probability of 0.50 in/hr rates for a brief time this evening
    when the IVTs peak around 600 Kg/m/s.

    Hurley


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025 - 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE OLYMPIC MOUNTAINS AND THE EAST COAST OF FLORIDA...

    ...Olympics...

    An anomalous mid-level closed low will be slow to=20
    move off of the coast of the Pacific Northwest on Wednesday into=20
    Thursday. Moisture anomalies along the coast are forecast to=20
    remain neutral to weakly positive but onshore flow will keep the=20
    region unsettled and left-exit region upper level jet induced=20
    divergence may aid in rainfall intensities early on Wednesday. Low=20
    level flow will be oriented from the SSW into the Olympics with a=20
    high likelihood for showers (isolated thunder given weak=20
    instability near the coast) throughout the 24 hour period with=20
    occasional bursts of rain rates in excess of 0.5 in/hr. 12Z HREF=20 probabilities of QPF over the 24 hour period ending Thursday at 12Z
    were 80-90 percent for 3+ inches, and 50-60 percent for 5+ inches.
    Given forecast rainfall of 1 to 3 inches ending Wednesday morning,
    and the additional rainfall on Wednesday into Thursday of 3 to 5=20
    inches locally (with embedded high rates), localized runoff in and=20
    around the Olympics may result.=20

    ...East Coast of Florida...

    With the eastward departure of Imelda and Humberto from the western
    Atlantic, a large surface ridge will build across the eastern U.S.,
    with low level easterly flow setting up perpendicular ot the east
    coast of the Florida Peninsula. 925-850 mb winds are forecast by
    the 12Z GFS to peak in the 20-30 kt range and offshore instability
    of at least 500-1000 J/kg is forecast by the latest model=20
    consensus to set up just offshore and along the coast. Upper level
    support for ascent will be aided by the right-entrance region of a
    70-80 kt ahead of an upper level shortwave tracking east from the=20
    central Gulf Coast.

    While moisture parameters are forecast to be only near average for
    early October, PW values are still forecast to range from 1.5 to=20
    2.0 inches at times with low level convergence helping to focus=20
    small but intense cores of heavy rain with hourly rainfall of 2 to=20
    3 inches expected at times. The flash flood threat is expected to=20
    remain rather localized, but given the presence of the highly=20
    populated eastern Peninsula and potential for localized 4 to 5+=20
    inch totals, a Marginal Risk was introduced for this update.

    Otto


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025 - 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE GREAT BASIN AND EASTERN FLORIDA...

    ...Great Basin...
    The upper low from Wednesday is expected to dig into the West=20
    Coast on Thursday directing diffluent flow and left exit region jet
    divergence into the Great Basin. Weak instability (less than 250
    J/kg MUCAPE from most models) along a developing cold front could=20
    generate repeating rounds of thunderstorms and short term training=20
    capable of producing some isolated flash flooding. While PWATs are
    forecast to be anomalous for early October (+2 to +3 standardized=20 anomalies), moisture and instability values will be relatively=20
    modest in an absolute sense which may limit rain rates. However,
    local sensitivities, including burn scars, could be at risk of
    impactful rainfall rates.

    ...Eastern Florida...
    As an upper level trough over the Southeast slowly edges eastward
    on Thursday, a similar setup as seen on Wednesday will be in place
    across the east coast of Florida. This includes instability of at
    least 500-1000 J/kg, PWAT values of 1.5 to 2.0+ inches and low
    level onshore flow of 20-30 kt at times. Slow cell motions could
    allow for hourly rainfall of 2 to 3 inches in a couple of
    locations with a focus along coastal/high population density=20
    sections of eastern Florida. While hires model data is limited to
    the 12Z RRFS for the day 3 time frame, the RRFS shows a spot of 6-7
    inches in northern portions of the outlook area, indicative of the
    potential for locally high rainfall totals.

    Otto


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_xXrjf5FD_5yya27yWuF2sKaog7cu_i6pdFFHI89hcs_= BsLMMH4lco5i58j18PS4uShFO7J11I1_PptErJ8sb3UFPaI$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_xXrjf5FD_5yya27yWuF2sKaog7cu_i6pdFFHI89hcs_= BsLMMH4lco5i58j18PS4uShFO7J11I1_PptErJ8sdzmrFlo$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_xXrjf5FD_5yya27yWuF2sKaog7cu_i6pdFFHI89hcs_= BsLMMH4lco5i58j18PS4uShFO7J11I1_PptErJ8sZQGaB4g$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 010029
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    829 PM EDT Tue Sep 30 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Wed Oct 01 2025 - 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Bann


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025 - 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE OLYMPIC MOUNTAINS AND THE EAST COAST OF FLORIDA...

    ...Olympics...

    An anomalous mid-level closed low will be slow to
    move off of the coast of the Pacific Northwest on Wednesday into
    Thursday. Moisture anomalies along the coast are forecast to
    remain neutral to weakly positive but onshore flow will keep the
    region unsettled and left-exit region upper level jet induced
    divergence may aid in rainfall intensities early on Wednesday. Low
    level flow will be oriented from the SSW into the Olympics with a
    high likelihood for showers (isolated thunder given weak
    instability near the coast) throughout the 24 hour period with
    occasional bursts of rain rates in excess of 0.5 in/hr. 12Z HREF
    probabilities of QPF over the 24 hour period ending Thursday at 12Z
    were 80-90 percent for 3+ inches, and 50-60 percent for 5+ inches.
    Given forecast rainfall of 1 to 3 inches ending Wednesday morning,
    and the additional rainfall on Wednesday into Thursday of 3 to 5
    inches locally (with embedded high rates), localized runoff in and
    around the Olympics may result.

    ...East Coast of Florida...

    With the eastward departure of Imelda and Humberto from the western
    Atlantic, a large surface ridge will build across the eastern U.S.,
    with low level easterly flow setting up perpendicular ot the east
    coast of the Florida Peninsula. 925-850 mb winds are forecast by
    the 12Z GFS to peak in the 20-30 kt range and offshore instability
    of at least 500-1000 J/kg is forecast by the latest model
    consensus to set up just offshore and along the coast. Upper level
    support for ascent will be aided by the right-entrance region of a
    70-80 kt ahead of an upper level shortwave tracking east from the
    central Gulf Coast.

    While moisture parameters are forecast to be only near average for
    early October, PW values are still forecast to range from 1.5 to
    2.0 inches at times with low level convergence helping to focus
    small but intense cores of heavy rain with hourly rainfall of 2 to
    3 inches expected at times. The flash flood threat is expected to
    remain rather localized, but given the presence of the highly
    populated eastern Peninsula and potential for localized 4 to 5+
    inch totals, a Marginal Risk was introduced for this update.

    Otto


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025 - 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE GREAT BASIN AND EASTERN FLORIDA...

    ...Great Basin...
    The upper low from Wednesday is expected to dig into the West
    Coast on Thursday directing diffluent flow and left exit region jet
    divergence into the Great Basin. Weak instability (less than 250
    J/kg MUCAPE from most models) along a developing cold front could
    generate repeating rounds of thunderstorms and short term training
    capable of producing some isolated flash flooding. While PWATs are
    forecast to be anomalous for early October (+2 to +3 standardized
    anomalies), moisture and instability values will be relatively
    modest in an absolute sense which may limit rain rates. However,
    local sensitivities, including burn scars, could be at risk of
    impactful rainfall rates.

    ...Eastern Florida...
    As an upper level trough over the Southeast slowly edges eastward
    on Thursday, a similar setup as seen on Wednesday will be in place
    across the east coast of Florida. This includes instability of at
    least 500-1000 J/kg, PWAT values of 1.5 to 2.0+ inches and low
    level onshore flow of 20-30 kt at times. Slow cell motions could
    allow for hourly rainfall of 2 to 3 inches in a couple of
    locations with a focus along coastal/high population density
    sections of eastern Florida. While hires model data is limited to
    the 12Z RRFS for the day 3 time frame, the RRFS shows a spot of 6-7
    inches in northern portions of the outlook area, indicative of the
    potential for locally high rainfall totals.

    Otto


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!--vzlDqCKAME7aiKq4Jdwed_ujN-XNs14mrnuXUUpEc5= ZUmK_p9kuVQ-1lZS3_VG3iQ8bkt5sWiwLmAc8k1lXf45ZBo$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!--vzlDqCKAME7aiKq4Jdwed_ujN-XNs14mrnuXUUpEc5= ZUmK_p9kuVQ-1lZS3_VG3iQ8bkt5sWiwLmAc8k1lK0gAEaY$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!--vzlDqCKAME7aiKq4Jdwed_ujN-XNs14mrnuXUUpEc5= ZUmK_p9kuVQ-1lZS3_VG3iQ8bkt5sWiwLmAc8k1l9TZNecA$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 010830
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    430 AM EDT Wed Oct 1 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Wed Oct 01 2025 - 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE OLYMPIC PENINSULA AND EASTERN FLORIDA...

    ...Olympic Peninsula...
    A deep upper low centered off of the British Columbia Coast will=20
    direct embedded ripples of vorticity into the Pacific Northwest=20
    today. A strong 60-100 kts RER jet with associated 100-200 J/Kg=20
    MUCAPE and 200-400 Kg/ms IVT out of the southwest should be enough
    to generate scattered thunderstorm activity across the region=20
    today. These favorable dynamics paired with PWATs between 0.65-0.90
    should produce efficient rain rates throughout the day, especially
    along the windward side of the Olympics, where upslope enhancement
    may occur.

    ...Eastern Florida...
    A positively tilted trough will swing through the Southeast today.
    CAA over warm Gulf/Atlantic waters should generate convection along
    a surface convergence zone over the Florida Coast today. MUCAPE=20
    between 500-1000 J/Kg within a moist environment (1.75-2.25 in.=20
    PWATs) should produce scattered thunderstorms with efficient rain=20
    rates. Moist easterly flow over the inverted coastal surface trough
    may generate some backbuilding storms this afternoon/evening. HREF
    5" neighborhood exceedance probabilities are between 20-30% across
    the entire risk area, so there's potential for overperformance of
    rainfall. Urban areas are of particular concern to flash flooding.


    Kebede

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025 - 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE OLYMPIC PENINSULA, THE SIERRA, THE GREAT BASIN AND EASTERN=20
    FLORIDA...

    ...Olympic Mountains...
    The excessive rainfall threat spills over into Thursday across the
    Olympics as the upper low begins to dig down into the West Coast.=20
    100-200 J/Kg MUCAPE and 0.75-1" PWATs should sustain the potential=20
    for excessive rainfall, particularly earlier on in the period=20
    (12-18z) before the trough pushes farther east into the interior
    and high pressure builds over the Olympic Peninsula. CMCE 1"=20
    exceedance probabilities are around 15-35% within the marginal risk
    area.

    ...Great Basin/Sierra...
    Strong diffluence associated with the digging upper trough will=20
    spread throughout the interior West on Thursday. An 80-100 kts RER=20
    jet with a 100 J/Kg MUCAPE should support convection with PWATs=20
    between 0.75-1", which will be 3-4 stndv above average. This will
    provide enough moisture to produce high enough rain rates to=20
    overtake flash flood guidance, which is below 1".=20

    ...Eastern Florida...
    Shortwave vortices within a mean upper trough will propagate south
    through the Florida Peninsula on Thursday. Sufficient instability
    (500-1000 J/Kg MUCAPE) and moisture (2"+ PWATs) associated with=20
    Imelda may produce excessive rainfall along the immediate coast
    early on in the day. The latest qpf trend is decreasing, partly
    because the heavy rainfall threat is split between two days (00z
    Wednesday--15z Thursday), but urban areas continue to be
    susceptible to runoff.


    Kebede

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025 - 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN FLORIDA...

    ...Eastern Florida... Continued troughing in the Southeast will=20
    promote more unsettled weather across Florida on Friday. Easterly=20
    flow will continue advecting rich tropical moisture (2-2.25" PWATs)
    from Imelda into the Peninsula with plenty of instability=20
    (500-1000 J/Kg MUCAPE) to generate scattered thunderstorms. 2"=20
    ensemble exceedance probabilities are between 5-15%, which supports
    the inherited marginal risk area. Again, the greatest threat for=20
    flash flooding is in urbanized areas.


    Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-9Vg9wXg0GFxnT-3E6UqhDAGmivk1Vp-OjBY4_RQCJBk= 3VSq6fkjXgJd0BmHjrXUW2ewaRqpaOWiyPow1W0l_VUE0ao$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-9Vg9wXg0GFxnT-3E6UqhDAGmivk1Vp-OjBY4_RQCJBk= 3VSq6fkjXgJd0BmHjrXUW2ewaRqpaOWiyPow1W0lxiXrC_c$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-9Vg9wXg0GFxnT-3E6UqhDAGmivk1Vp-OjBY4_RQCJBk= 3VSq6fkjXgJd0BmHjrXUW2ewaRqpaOWiyPow1W0lruMQrU0$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Wed Oct 1 08:33:53 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 010833
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    433 AM EDT Wed Oct 1 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Wed Oct 01 2025 - 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE OLYMPIC PENINSULA AND EASTERN FLORIDA...

    ...Olympic Peninsula...
    A deep upper low centered off of the British Columbia Coast will
    direct embedded ripples of vorticity into the Pacific Northwest
    today. A strong 60-100 kts RER jet with associated 100-200 J/Kg
    MUCAPE and 200-400 Kg/ms IVT out of the southwest should be enough
    to generate scattered thunderstorm activity across the region
    today. These favorable dynamics paired with PWATs between 0.65-0.90
    should produce efficient rain rates throughout the day, especially
    along the windward side of the Olympics, where upslope enhancement
    may occur.

    ...Eastern Florida...
    A positively tilted trough will swing through the Southeast today.
    CAA over warm Gulf/Atlantic waters should generate convection along
    a surface convergence zone over the Florida Coast today. MUCAPE
    between 500-1000 J/Kg within a moist environment (1.75-2.25 in.
    PWATs) should produce scattered thunderstorms with efficient rain
    rates. Moist easterly flow over the inverted coastal surface trough
    may generate some backbuilding storms this afternoon/evening. HREF
    5" neighborhood exceedance probabilities are between 20-30% across
    the entire risk area, so there's potential for overperformance of
    rainfall. Urban areas are of particular concern to flash flooding.


    Kebede

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025 - 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE OLYMPIC PENINSULA, THE SIERRA, THE GREAT BASIN AND EASTERN
    FLORIDA...

    ...Olympic Mountains...
    The excessive rainfall threat spills over into Thursday across the
    Olympics as the upper low begins to dig down into the West Coast.
    100-200 J/Kg MUCAPE and 0.75-1" PWATs should sustain the potential
    for excessive rainfall, particularly earlier on in the period
    (12-18z) before the trough pushes farther east into the interior
    and high pressure builds over the Olympic Peninsula. CMCE 1"
    exceedance probabilities are around 15-35% within the marginal risk
    area.

    ...Great Basin/Sierra...
    Strong diffluence associated with the digging upper trough will
    spread throughout the interior West on Thursday. An 80-100 kts RER
    jet with a 100 J/Kg MUCAPE should support convection with PWATs
    between 0.75-1", which will be 3-4 stndv above average. This will
    provide enough moisture to produce high enough rain rates to
    overtake flash flood guidance, which is below 1".

    ...Eastern Florida...
    Shortwave vortices within a mean upper trough will propagate south
    through the Florida Peninsula on Thursday. Sufficient instability
    (500-1000 J/Kg MUCAPE) and moisture (2"+ PWATs) associated with
    Imelda may produce excessive rainfall along the immediate coast
    early on in the day. The latest qpf trend is decreasing, partly
    because the heavy rainfall threat is split between two days (00z
    Wednesday--15z Thursday), but urban areas continue to be
    susceptible to runoff.


    Kebede

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025 - 12Z Sat Oct 04 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN FLORIDA...

    ...Eastern Florida...=20
    Continued troughing in the Southeast will promote more unsettled=20
    weather across Florida on Friday. Easterly flow will continue=20
    advecting rich tropical moisture (2-2.25" PWATs) from Imelda into=20
    the Peninsula with plenty of instability (500-1000 J/Kg MUCAPE) to=20
    generate scattered thunderstorms. 2" ensemble exceedance=20
    probabilities are between 5-15%, which supports the inherited=20
    marginal risk area. Again, the greatest threat for flash flooding=20
    is in urbanized areas.


    Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4UnSa_wq00OZYj86Y4W7Lf7iHP_LJPflziHRmW0TYTq4= ajC-j_04GbTTCQJOR5oc8Qo_4FU0J3sT8pO1avACpQyCou8$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4UnSa_wq00OZYj86Y4W7Lf7iHP_LJPflziHRmW0TYTq4= ajC-j_04GbTTCQJOR5oc8Qo_4FU0J3sT8pO1avACOGRgcI8$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4UnSa_wq00OZYj86Y4W7Lf7iHP_LJPflziHRmW0TYTq4= ajC-j_04GbTTCQJOR5oc8Qo_4FU0J3sT8pO1avACk2skvVQ$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Wed Oct 1 15:29:55 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 011529
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1129 AM EDT Wed Oct 1 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Wed Oct 01 2025 - 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR MUCH OF THE=20=20
    EASTERN FLORIDA PENINSULA...

    16Z Update: After coordination with local Seattle WFO and
    observational/short term trends in guidance, have opted to remove
    the MRGL risk in place across the Olympic's for the period. Locally
    heavy rainfall will be expected with the current pattern, however
    low probs for >2"/6-hrs and generally sub <1"/hr rainfall rates
    expected outside a few elevated convective signals later in the
    period over the highest terrain warrant a non-zero, but sub-MRGL
    risk forecast for flash flood prospects.=20

    Across eastern FL, the threat for locally heavy rainfall continues
    for the afternoon and evening with a favoring setup closer to the
    end of the forecast when surface trough alignment along the eastern
    peninsula generates a stronger low-lvl convergence signature in
    proximity to the trough. HREF blended mean QPF still distributes
    between 1-1.5" in the mean for spots along the eastern coast,
    however HREF neighborhood probs for >5" are between 15-35% along
    the same area of the QPF mean. This is grounds for maintaining a
    forecast of locally enhanced rainfall rates that could overperform
    the mean quite easily if they setup in a given area. For this
    alone, the risk area was relatively maintained with the biggest
    change being the addition of all of the Miami metro included in the
    latest update.=20

    Kleebauer

    ..Previous Discussion..

    ...Eastern Florida...

    A positively tilted trough will swing through the Southeast today.
    CAA over warm Gulf/Atlantic waters should generate convection along
    a surface convergence zone over the Florida Coast today. MUCAPE
    between 500-1000 J/Kg within a moist environment (1.75-2.25 in.
    PWATs) should produce scattered thunderstorms with efficient rain
    rates. Moist easterly flow over the inverted coastal surface trough
    may generate some backbuilding storms this afternoon/evening. HREF
    5" neighborhood exceedance probabilities are between 20-30% across
    the entire risk area, so there's potential for overperformance of
    rainfall. Urban areas are of particular concern to flash flooding.

    Kebede


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025 - 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE OLYMPIC PENINSULA, THE SIERRA, THE GREAT BASIN AND EASTERN
    FLORIDA...

    ...Olympic Mountains...
    The excessive rainfall threat spills over into Thursday across the
    Olympics as the upper low begins to dig down into the West Coast.
    100-200 J/Kg MUCAPE and 0.75-1" PWATs should sustain the potential
    for excessive rainfall, particularly earlier on in the period
    (12-18z) before the trough pushes farther east into the interior
    and high pressure builds over the Olympic Peninsula. CMCE 1"
    exceedance probabilities are around 15-35% within the marginal risk
    area.

    ...Great Basin/Sierra...
    Strong diffluence associated with the digging upper trough will
    spread throughout the interior West on Thursday. An 80-100 kts RER
    jet with a 100 J/Kg MUCAPE should support convection with PWATs
    between 0.75-1", which will be 3-4 standard deviations above=20
    average. This will provide enough moisture to produce high enough=20
    rain rates to overtake flash flood guidance, which is below 1".

    ...Eastern Florida...
    Shortwave vortices within a mean upper trough will propagate south
    through the Florida Peninsula on Thursday. Sufficient instability
    (500-1000 J/Kg MUCAPE) and moisture (2"+ PWATs) associated with
    Imelda may produce excessive rainfall along the immediate coast
    early on in the day. The latest qpf trend is decreasing, partly
    because the heavy rainfall threat is split between two days (00z
    Wednesday--15z Thursday), but urban areas continue to be
    susceptible to runoff.


    Kebede

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025 - 12Z Sat Oct 04 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN FLORIDA...

    ...Eastern Florida...
    Continued troughing in the Southeast will promote more unsettled
    weather across Florida on Friday. Easterly flow will continue
    advecting rich tropical moisture (2-2.25" PWATs) from Imelda into
    the Peninsula with plenty of instability (500-1000 J/Kg MUCAPE) to
    generate scattered thunderstorms. 2" ensemble exceedance
    probabilities are between 5-15%, which supports the inherited
    marginal risk area. Again, the greatest threat for flash flooding
    is in urbanized areas.


    Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6avUEPTz7w5KE2suAXqsVP1dVLAbmfdPmxgnZEtLOWFq= zArm3NgCYckK9c96cz_B9_Kd_Zo1KG9KS1hlKIMbFB9gD5g$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6avUEPTz7w5KE2suAXqsVP1dVLAbmfdPmxgnZEtLOWFq= zArm3NgCYckK9c96cz_B9_Kd_Zo1KG9KS1hlKIMby97pyUw$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6avUEPTz7w5KE2suAXqsVP1dVLAbmfdPmxgnZEtLOWFq= zArm3NgCYckK9c96cz_B9_Kd_Zo1KG9KS1hlKIMbgHk9OV4$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Wed Oct 1 19:39:27 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 011939
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    339 PM EDT Wed Oct 1 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Wed Oct 01 2025 - 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR MUCH OF THE
    EASTERN FLORIDA PENINSULA...

    16Z Update: After coordination with local Seattle WFO and
    observational/short term trends in guidance, have opted to remove
    the MRGL risk in place across the Olympic's for the period. Locally
    heavy rainfall will be expected with the current pattern, however
    low probs for >2"/6-hrs and generally sub <1"/hr rainfall rates
    expected outside a few elevated convective signals later in the
    period over the highest terrain warrant a non-zero, but sub-MRGL
    risk forecast for flash flood prospects.

    Across eastern FL, the threat for locally heavy rainfall continues
    for the afternoon and evening with a favoring setup closer to the
    end of the forecast when surface trough alignment along the eastern
    peninsula generates a stronger low-lvl convergence signature in
    proximity to the trough. HREF blended mean QPF still distributes
    between 1-1.5" in the mean for spots along the eastern coast,
    however HREF neighborhood probs for >5" are between 15-35% along
    the same area of the QPF mean. This is grounds for maintaining a
    forecast of locally enhanced rainfall rates that could overperform
    the mean quite easily if they setup in a given area. For this
    alone, the risk area was relatively maintained with the biggest
    change being the addition of all of the Miami metro included in the
    latest update.

    Kleebauer

    ..Previous Discussion..

    ...Eastern Florida...

    A positively tilted trough will swing through the Southeast today.
    CAA over warm Gulf/Atlantic waters should generate convection along
    a surface convergence zone over the Florida Coast today. MUCAPE
    between 500-1000 J/Kg within a moist environment (1.75-2.25 in.
    PWATs) should produce scattered thunderstorms with efficient rain
    rates. Moist easterly flow over the inverted coastal surface trough
    may generate some backbuilding storms this afternoon/evening. HREF
    5" neighborhood exceedance probabilities are between 20-30% across
    the entire risk area, so there's potential for overperformance of
    rainfall. Urban areas are of particular concern to flash flooding.

    Kebede


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025 - 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR EASTERN
    FLORIDA, THE OLYMPIC PENINSULA, AND FROM THE SIERRA THROUGH THE
    GREAT BASIN...

    ...Eastern Florida...
    An inverted surface trough lingering near the Atlantic coast of
    Florida will continue to provide a focus for ascent, aided by a
    subtly deepening impulse aloft drifting westward through D2.
    Together, these will result in widespread showers and thunderstorms
    moving steadily westward through the day around the periphery of an
    anomalous high pressure wedge centered near the Mid-Atlantic. With
    PWs likely exceeding 2" overlapped with MUCAPE above 1000 J/kg,
    convection that trains across the area may contain rain rates of
    2-3"/hr (30-40% chance from the HREF). While the greatest potential
    for impactful rain appears to be along the immediate coast due to
    frictional convergence and a longer period of elevated instability,
    with 850mb winds exceeding the mean flow, and Corfidi vectors
    aligned anti-parallel to the mean wind, training cells with heavy
    rain may push well inland during Thursday evening as well. For this
    reason the MRGL risk was expanded slightly westward from previous. Additionally, a small SLGT risk was considered for the Treasure=20
    Coast and Gold Coast of SE Florida where both HREF and REFS=20
    probabilities feature an elevated risk (40-60%) for rainfall=20
    exceeding 5"/24 hrs, but after coordination with WFOs MLB and MFL,
    the MRGL risk was maintained at this time due to recent dryness.


    ...Olympic Mountains...
    A closed mid-level low pivoting just west of Washington State will
    merge with secondary vorticity energy to manifest as an elongated
    closed feature digging into Northern California by Friday morning.
    Downstream of this evolution, S/SW low-to-mid level flow will
    channel moisture onshore into the Olympic Peninsula, with high
    probabilities (>80%) of IVT exceeding 250 kg/m/s continuing the
    first part of D2. Where this moisture effectively intersects the
    higher terrain of the Olympics to force upslope and enhanced
    ascent, primarily within a narrow ribbon of MUCAPE > 250 J/kg, this
    will drive some embedded heavier rain rates locally exceeding
    0.5"/hr. While the resultant flash flood risk appears generally
    isolated, some isolated impacts are possible where heavier showers
    and isolated thunderstorms can repeat across the Olympics, so the
    MRGL risk was maintained.


    ...Great Basin/Sierra...
    Digging mid-level low will amplify and drop into Northern
    California by Friday morning, placing impressive but channeled
    downstream ascent from the Sierra through the Great Basin. This
    will be enhanced by an impressive poleward arcing jet streak
    developing downstream of the primary trough axis, leaving the
    favorable RRQ atop the axis of greatest mid-level lift to produce
    deep layer ascent. At the surface, this evolution will result in a
    wavering stationary front draped from central CA through the Great
    Basin and into the Northern High Plains, leading to additional
    convergence, and this should manifest as a narrow corridor of
    showers and isolated thunderstorms where thermodynamics (PWs above
    0.75 inches and MUCAPE 250-500 J/kg) are supportive. Mean 0-6km
    winds of 30 kts indicate showers will be progressive, but also
    aligned to the front to support at least short duration training.
    This could result in isolated instances of flash flooding, with the
    greatest potential appearing to be in the Sierra where upslope flow
    and regenerating cells supports a higher probability (60-90%) of
    more than 1 inch of rainfall.


    Weiss

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025 - 12Z Sat Oct 04 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF=20
    EASTERN FLORIDA AND THE GREAT BASIN/INTERMOUNTAIN WEST...

    ...Eastern Florida...
    Another day of onshore flow around the periphery of a wedge of high
    pressure to the north will maintain moist convergence across the
    Florida Peninsula. A mid-level trough persisting overhead will help
    enhance instability as well, so Friday will again feature westward
    moving showers and thunderstorms with efficient rainfall rates of
    2-3"/hr supported by impressive thermodynamics (PWs 2-2.25" and
    MUCAPE above 1000 J/kg). With showers and thunderstorms repeatedly
    moving onshore, this training could produce rainfall accumulating
    to 1-3" on Friday, and this is on top of what could be heavy rain
    D1 and D2 as well. The MRGL risk was maintained and cosmetically
    adjusted, with the greatest risk for impacts likely within urban
    areas.


    ...Great Basin into the Northern Rockies...
    An amplifying mid-level trough will swing east across the Great
    Basin Friday, with heights falling below -1 sigma at 500mb by 00Z
    Saturday. A potent shortwave and accompanying vorticity impulse
    swinging through the base of this trough will reach the western
    Four Corners states late D3, and as it sheds northeast within
    downstream confluent flow, provide enhanced ascent through PVA atop
    the accompanying height falls. At the same time, a jet streak
    pivoting around the base of this trough will also amplify, leading
    to pronounced deep layer lift from Nevada into Montana, generally
    just upstream from an elongated frontal structure across the
    Rockies (suggesting at least modest frontogenesis within this
    region as well).

    Within this corridor of enhanced ascent, PWs will be as high as
    0.75" coincident with MUCAPE above 500 J/kg. This will support
    scattered to widespread showers with embedded thunderstorms, and in
    the deeper convection, rain rates could exceed 0.5"/hr. Mean 0-6km
    winds aligned with propagation vectors will support training to
    offset generally fast storm motions, and locally this could result
    in 1-2" of rain with isolated flash flooding. A MRGL risk was added
    after coordination with WFOs BOI/MSO/LKN/TFX.


    Weiss


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!780aRhsm2qrXtyOe_M_L6tkx4ayLzuDjU1WJWOaqE42X= Byl7N1PLv8dIe6Ett4AvagG6rQomd6tbFs_dLhmGxtRjw-c$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!780aRhsm2qrXtyOe_M_L6tkx4ayLzuDjU1WJWOaqE42X= Byl7N1PLv8dIe6Ett4AvagG6rQomd6tbFs_dLhmGdZkgDJE$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!780aRhsm2qrXtyOe_M_L6tkx4ayLzuDjU1WJWOaqE42X= Byl7N1PLv8dIe6Ett4AvagG6rQomd6tbFs_dLhmG07iSnjw$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 020048
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    848 PM EDT Wed Oct 1 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Thu Oct 02 2025 - 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR MUCH OF THE
    EASTERN FLORIDA PENINSULA...

    Maintained the Marginal Risk area across eastern FL given
    persistent deep-layer easterly flow and the expectation that a
    trough along the eastern peninsula aligns in a way which favors
    better low level convergence along/near the coast later tonight.=20
    Latest HREF blended mean QPF still depicts spotty rainfall amounts=20
    between 1-1.5" in the mean along the eastern coast. HREF neighborhood probabilities for >5" remained in the 15-35 percent range along=20
    the same area of the QPF mean. This is grounds for maintaining a=20
    forecast of locally enhanced rainfall rates which could result in
    localized flooding from the Miami metro northward...similar in
    placement with the previous Marginal Risk area. 00Z radiosondes=20
    and ACARS data showed an overall moistening of the atmosphere given
    the moisture transport tied to flow off the Atlantic which further
    supports the model idea of increasing coverage of showers and=20
    thunderstorms and of an atmosphere that could support local=20
    downpours.

    Bann

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025 - 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR EASTERN
    FLORIDA, THE OLYMPIC PENINSULA, AND FROM THE SIERRA THROUGH THE
    GREAT BASIN...

    ...Eastern Florida...
    An inverted surface trough lingering near the Atlantic coast of
    Florida will continue to provide a focus for ascent, aided by a
    subtly deepening impulse aloft drifting westward through D2.
    Together, these will result in widespread showers and thunderstorms
    moving steadily westward through the day around the periphery of an
    anomalous high pressure wedge centered near the Mid-Atlantic. With
    PWs likely exceeding 2" overlapped with MUCAPE above 1000 J/kg,
    convection that trains across the area may contain rain rates of
    2-3"/hr (30-40% chance from the HREF). While the greatest potential
    for impactful rain appears to be along the immediate coast due to
    frictional convergence and a longer period of elevated instability,
    with 850mb winds exceeding the mean flow, and Corfidi vectors
    aligned anti-parallel to the mean wind, training cells with heavy
    rain may push well inland during Thursday evening as well. For this
    reason the MRGL risk was expanded slightly westward from previous. Additionally, a small SLGT risk was considered for the Treasure
    Coast and Gold Coast of SE Florida where both HREF and REFS
    probabilities feature an elevated risk (40-60%) for rainfall
    exceeding 5"/24 hrs, but after coordination with WFOs MLB and MFL,
    the MRGL risk was maintained at this time due to recent dryness.


    ...Olympic Mountains...
    A closed mid-level low pivoting just west of Washington State will
    merge with secondary vorticity energy to manifest as an elongated
    closed feature digging into Northern California by Friday morning.
    Downstream of this evolution, S/SW low-to-mid level flow will
    channel moisture onshore into the Olympic Peninsula, with high
    probabilities (>80%) of IVT exceeding 250 kg/m/s continuing the
    first part of D2. Where this moisture effectively intersects the
    higher terrain of the Olympics to force upslope and enhanced
    ascent, primarily within a narrow ribbon of MUCAPE > 250 J/kg, this
    will drive some embedded heavier rain rates locally exceeding
    0.5"/hr. While the resultant flash flood risk appears generally
    isolated, some isolated impacts are possible where heavier showers
    and isolated thunderstorms can repeat across the Olympics, so the
    MRGL risk was maintained.


    ...Great Basin/Sierra...
    Digging mid-level low will amplify and drop into Northern
    California by Friday morning, placing impressive but channeled
    downstream ascent from the Sierra through the Great Basin. This
    will be enhanced by an impressive poleward arcing jet streak
    developing downstream of the primary trough axis, leaving the
    favorable RRQ atop the axis of greatest mid-level lift to produce
    deep layer ascent. At the surface, this evolution will result in a
    wavering stationary front draped from central CA through the Great
    Basin and into the Northern High Plains, leading to additional
    convergence, and this should manifest as a narrow corridor of
    showers and isolated thunderstorms where thermodynamics (PWs above
    0.75 inches and MUCAPE 250-500 J/kg) are supportive. Mean 0-6km
    winds of 30 kts indicate showers will be progressive, but also
    aligned to the front to support at least short duration training.
    This could result in isolated instances of flash flooding, with the
    greatest potential appearing to be in the Sierra where upslope flow
    and regenerating cells supports a higher probability (60-90%) of
    more than 1 inch of rainfall.


    Weiss

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025 - 12Z Sat Oct 04 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN FLORIDA AND THE GREAT BASIN/INTERMOUNTAIN WEST...

    ...Eastern Florida...
    Another day of onshore flow around the periphery of a wedge of high
    pressure to the north will maintain moist convergence across the
    Florida Peninsula. A mid-level trough persisting overhead will help
    enhance instability as well, so Friday will again feature westward
    moving showers and thunderstorms with efficient rainfall rates of
    2-3"/hr supported by impressive thermodynamics (PWs 2-2.25" and
    MUCAPE above 1000 J/kg). With showers and thunderstorms repeatedly
    moving onshore, this training could produce rainfall accumulating
    to 1-3" on Friday, and this is on top of what could be heavy rain
    D1 and D2 as well. The MRGL risk was maintained and cosmetically
    adjusted, with the greatest risk for impacts likely within urban
    areas.


    ...Great Basin into the Northern Rockies...
    An amplifying mid-level trough will swing east across the Great
    Basin Friday, with heights falling below -1 sigma at 500mb by 00Z
    Saturday. A potent shortwave and accompanying vorticity impulse
    swinging through the base of this trough will reach the western
    Four Corners states late D3, and as it sheds northeast within
    downstream confluent flow, provide enhanced ascent through PVA atop
    the accompanying height falls. At the same time, a jet streak
    pivoting around the base of this trough will also amplify, leading
    to pronounced deep layer lift from Nevada into Montana, generally
    just upstream from an elongated frontal structure across the
    Rockies (suggesting at least modest frontogenesis within this
    region as well).

    Within this corridor of enhanced ascent, PWs will be as high as
    0.75" coincident with MUCAPE above 500 J/kg. This will support
    scattered to widespread showers with embedded thunderstorms, and in
    the deeper convection, rain rates could exceed 0.5"/hr. Mean 0-6km
    winds aligned with propagation vectors will support training to
    offset generally fast storm motions, and locally this could result
    in 1-2" of rain with isolated flash flooding. A MRGL risk was added
    after coordination with WFOs BOI/MSO/LKN/TFX.


    Weiss


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5-1DtE1QDhW5To79d3pWkPa6yeBHXukS-h93drZ4EU-B= wxxjYvAhPsTA3c_xpm-CWEU9FRQLDyUKKnjJNRcO5jOu_ko$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5-1DtE1QDhW5To79d3pWkPa6yeBHXukS-h93drZ4EU-B= wxxjYvAhPsTA3c_xpm-CWEU9FRQLDyUKKnjJNRcO2ykwwoM$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5-1DtE1QDhW5To79d3pWkPa6yeBHXukS-h93drZ4EU-B= wxxjYvAhPsTA3c_xpm-CWEU9FRQLDyUKKnjJNRcOeAUe72c$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Thu Oct 2 08:28:43 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 020828
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    428 AM EDT Thu Oct 2 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Thu Oct 02 2025 - 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SIERRA, GREAT BASIN AND EASTERN FLORIDA...

    ...Sierra/Great Basin...
    An upper low will dig into the West Coast while sending streams of
    vorticity into the Sierra Nevada, Great Basin and Northern=20
    Rockies. Diffluence will spread across the aforementioned areas=20
    throughout the day on Friday. At the surface, a low pressure system
    will propagate across the interior West, while anomalous moisture=20
    (3-4 stndv PWATs) streams in behind the preceding cold front.=20
    Scattered to isolated thunderstorms may develop and produce=20
    isolated instances of excessive rainfall and flash flooding.=20

    Upslope enhancement across the Sierra could produce heavier=20
    rainfall totals than what are currently forecast. EAS probabilities
    of 24 hour qpf exceeding 1 inch are over 40% in the Sierra and=20
    between 15-40% in the Great Basin. Therefore, burn scars over=20
    central and southern Idaho are at risk of flash flooding today.

    ...Eastern Florida...
    Moist easterly flow into a surface front oriented north-south will
    produce scattered convection across Florida today. The surface=20
    boundary draped along the eastern coast will focus PWATs of around=20
    2" in that area where MUCAPE between 500-1000 J/Kg will also likely
    produce high rain rates. Neighborhood probabilities of exceeding=20
    5" in 24 hours are between 40-90% from near Miami metro up through=20
    Melbourne and Orlando.


    Kebede

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025 - 12Z Sat Oct 04 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK FOR PORTIONS OF THE GREAT BASIN AND
    EASTERN FLORIDA...

    ...Great Basin...
    The upper trough propagates through the Great Basin and begins=20
    lifting north on Friday. The excessive rainfall threat bleeds into
    Friday from Thursday as thunderstorms weaken and spread from the=20
    Great Basin into the Northern Rockies by Friday afternoon. Instability
    and moisture will be relatively modest (100-200 J/Kg MUCAPE)=20
    (0.5-0.9"). Ensemble exceedance probabilities of 1" are between=20
    10-20% over northern Nevada with 2 day totals potentially eclipsing
    2" in some places.

    ...Eastern Florida...
    Moisture advection into Florida increases on Friday as a mid-level
    circulation embedded within a broader upper ridge continues to
    direct moisture and instability into the state's east coast.=20
    Another inverted surface trough may develop along the state's east
    coast and focus convection along the convergence zone. Ensemble=20
    exceedance probabilities of 2" are between 5-15% along the=20
    immediate coast, while first guess fields support the marginal with
    5% flash flood probabilities.


    Kebede

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Oct 04 2025 - 12Z Sun Oct 05 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK FOR PORTIONS OF SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA AND
    EASTERN FLORIDA INTO FAR SOUTHEASTERN GEORGIA...

    ...Central Gulf Coast...
    Mid-level vorticity swirling over the Central Gulf Coast will
    generate instability and pull an increasing amount of Gulf=20
    moisture into the region on Saturday. Convection should fire along=20
    a coastal convergence zone that develops and diurnal heating should
    enhance afternoon/evening storms along that boundary. PWATs will
    likely be over 2" with MUCAPE between 500-750 J/Kg. Ensemble exceedance probabilities of 2" are between 15-30% for much of southeast=20
    Louisiana.

    ...Eastern Florida/Southeastern Georgia...
    Tropical moisture associated with Imelda will continue flowing into
    Florida due to and upper ridge over the East Coast and embedded
    troughing over Florida and the Gulf. A modest instability plume=20
    should flow up the Florida Peninsula into far southeastern Georgia=20
    where PWAT's of over 2" and an inverted surface trough could
    combine to produce thunderstorms capable of generating 0.75-1"/hr=20
    rain rates. Ensemble exceedance probabilities of 2" are between=20
    5-15% along Florida's east coast into southeastern Georgia.


    Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5QMibcjbv8UIoTFzL7jA06j0OeJ8rgJX3NQrBodnUdto= 0N3yKv--zID7olPZgjbAEjsDg2dbjEODBS5D83_TzDyC4E0$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5QMibcjbv8UIoTFzL7jA06j0OeJ8rgJX3NQrBodnUdto= 0N3yKv--zID7olPZgjbAEjsDg2dbjEODBS5D83_T_tNI8og$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5QMibcjbv8UIoTFzL7jA06j0OeJ8rgJX3NQrBodnUdto= 0N3yKv--zID7olPZgjbAEjsDg2dbjEODBS5D83_TBlxoeD8$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 021544
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1144 AM EDT Thu Oct 2 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Thu Oct 02 2025 - 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SIERRA, GREAT BASIN AND EASTERN FLORIDA...

    16Z Update: The previous forecast has not changed much in the
    overall synoptic and mesoscale expectations over the two risk areas outlined.=20

    Across FL, locally heavy rainfall within the confines of
    a surface trough axis aligned parallel, just inland from the
    coastal plain will be the threat through the period with urban
    flash flooding the most likely case of any potential. Highest 5"
    probs via 12z HREF neighborhood output are still in that 40-90%
    range, however the highest probs are centered between Melbourne to
    West Palm Beach with a centroid near Port St Lucie. This is hi-res
    indications of where they anticipate the strongest low-level
    convergence regime with relevant moisture flux situated just off
    the Atlantic coast at similar latitude to the elevated probs.
    Considering some error in convective placement, it's still
    reasonable to consider areas from Miami up to Daytona within the
    proxy for locally enhanced rainfall rates with hourly rates ~3"/hr
    at peak intensity when you factor PWATs hovering between 1.75-2"=20
    as of the 10/12z RAOB soundings from Cape Canaveral. This signal=20
    in the means and individual deterministic is more than sufficient=20
    for a maintenance of the MRGL risk in place with only a minor=20
    northward expansion in the area to cover for the current radar
    trends.=20

    Across the west, the setup remains consistent among all the CAMs
    and global deterministic with a relative max situated over the
    northern Sierra along and near I-80 where modest instability and
    sufficient large scale ascent should initiate a period of moderate
    to heavy rain for multiple hours that could enhance a localized
    flood prospect. As we move further inland into the Great Basin, the
    setup shifts to more scattered/widespread convective schemes that
    are better suited for those highly localized flash flood concerns
    within topography that historically favors flashier output due to
    the soil composition and prevalence of dry washes and arroyos
    littered over the high desert. This threat expands into the Snake
    River basin of ID and adjacent zones later this evening. Totals
    between 1-2" (Locally higher in the northern Sierra) will be most=20
    common in the MRGL risk in place from the Central Valley of=20
    California up into Sawtooth and Salmon River Ranges of Idaho.=20

    Kleebauer

    ..Previous Discussions..

    ...Sierra/Great Basin...

    An upper low will dig into the West Coast while sending streams of
    vorticity into the Sierra Nevada, Great Basin and Northern=20
    Rockies. Diffluence will spread across the aforementioned areas=20
    throughout the day on Friday. At the surface, a low pressure system
    will propagate across the interior West, while anomalous moisture=20
    (3-4 stndv PWATs) streams in behind the preceding cold front.=20
    Scattered to isolated thunderstorms may develop and produce=20
    isolated instances of excessive rainfall and flash flooding.

    Upslope enhancement across the Sierra could produce heavier
    rainfall totals than what are currently forecast. EAS probabilities
    of 24 hour qpf exceeding 1 inch are over 40% in the Sierra and
    between 15-40% in the Great Basin. Therefore, burn scars over
    central and southern Idaho are at risk of flash flooding today.

    ...Eastern Florida...

    Moist easterly flow into a surface front oriented north-south will
    produce scattered convection across Florida today. The surface
    boundary draped along the eastern coast will focus PWATs of around
    2" in that area where MUCAPE between 500-1000 J/Kg will also likely
    produce high rain rates. Neighborhood probabilities of exceeding
    5" in 24 hours are between 40-90% from near Miami metro up through
    Melbourne and Orlando.

    Kebede


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025 - 12Z Sat Oct 04 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK FOR PORTIONS OF THE GREAT BASIN AND
    EASTERN FLORIDA...

    ...Great Basin...
    The upper trough propagates through the Great Basin and begins
    lifting north on Friday. The excessive rainfall threat bleeds into
    Friday from Thursday as thunderstorms weaken and spread from the
    Great Basin into the Northern Rockies by Friday afternoon. Instability
    and moisture will be relatively modest (100-200 J/Kg MUCAPE)
    (0.5-0.9"). Ensemble exceedance probabilities of 1" are between
    10-20% over northern Nevada with 2 day totals potentially eclipsing
    2" in some places.

    ...Eastern Florida...
    Moisture advection into Florida increases on Friday as a mid-level
    circulation embedded within a broader upper ridge continues to
    direct moisture and instability into the state's east coast.
    Another inverted surface trough may develop along the state's east
    coast and focus convection along the convergence zone. Ensemble
    exceedance probabilities of 2" are between 5-15% along the
    immediate coast, while first guess fields support the marginal with
    5% flash flood probabilities.


    Kebede

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Oct 04 2025 - 12Z Sun Oct 05 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK FOR PORTIONS OF SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA AND
    EASTERN FLORIDA INTO FAR SOUTHEASTERN GEORGIA...

    ...Central Gulf Coast...
    Mid-level vorticity swirling over the Central Gulf Coast will
    generate instability and pull an increasing amount of Gulf
    moisture into the region on Saturday. Convection should fire along
    a coastal convergence zone that develops and diurnal heating should
    enhance afternoon/evening storms along that boundary. PWATs will
    likely be over 2" with MUCAPE between 500-750 J/Kg. Ensemble exceedance probabilities of 2" are between 15-30% for much of southeast
    Louisiana.

    ...Eastern Florida/Southeastern Georgia...
    Tropical moisture associated with Imelda will continue flowing into
    Florida due to and upper ridge over the East Coast and embedded
    troughing over Florida and the Gulf. A modest instability plume
    should flow up the Florida Peninsula into far southeastern Georgia
    where PWAT's of over 2" and an inverted surface trough could
    combine to produce thunderstorms capable of generating 0.75-1"/hr
    rain rates. Ensemble exceedance probabilities of 2" are between
    5-15% along Florida's east coast into southeastern Georgia.


    Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-TXaeIF6zJASOo8o2ZPRpSFXhdz9pbtfYb8Itozk9Wpn= YeHxPDMCzMp2yhoxlB8WXE2lf0pHGWzQUj--paKEvEq-Ky4$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-TXaeIF6zJASOo8o2ZPRpSFXhdz9pbtfYb8Itozk9Wpn= YeHxPDMCzMp2yhoxlB8WXE2lf0pHGWzQUj--paKEeqNXeZE$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-TXaeIF6zJASOo8o2ZPRpSFXhdz9pbtfYb8Itozk9Wpn= YeHxPDMCzMp2yhoxlB8WXE2lf0pHGWzQUj--paKEnyhorn4$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Thu Oct 2 19:39:54 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 021939
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    339 PM EDT Thu Oct 2 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Thu Oct 02 2025 - 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF=20
    THE SIERRA, GREAT BASIN AND EASTERN FLORIDA...

    16Z Update: The previous forecast has not changed much in the
    overall synoptic and mesoscale expectations over the two risk areas
    outlined.

    Across FL, locally heavy rainfall within the confines of
    a surface trough axis aligned parallel, just inland from the
    coastal plain will be the threat through the period with urban
    flash flooding the most likely case of any potential. Highest 5"
    probs via 12z HREF neighborhood output are still in that 40-90%
    range, however the highest probs are centered between Melbourne to
    West Palm Beach with a centroid near Port St Lucie. This is hi-res
    indications of where they anticipate the strongest low-level
    convergence regime with relevant moisture flux situated just off
    the Atlantic coast at similar latitude to the elevated probs.
    Considering some error in convective placement, it's still
    reasonable to consider areas from Miami up to Daytona within the
    proxy for locally enhanced rainfall rates with hourly rates ~3"/hr
    at peak intensity when you factor PWATs hovering between 1.75-2"
    as of the 10/12z RAOB soundings from Cape Canaveral. This signal
    in the means and individual deterministic is more than sufficient
    for a maintenance of the MRGL risk in place with only a minor
    northward expansion in the area to cover for the current radar
    trends.

    Across the west, the setup remains consistent among all the CAMs
    and global deterministic with a relative max situated over the
    northern Sierra along and near I-80 where modest instability and
    sufficient large scale ascent should initiate a period of moderate
    to heavy rain for multiple hours that could enhance a localized
    flood prospect. As we move further inland into the Great Basin, the
    setup shifts to more scattered/widespread convective schemes that
    are better suited for those highly localized flash flood concerns
    within topography that historically favors flashier output due to
    the soil composition and prevalence of dry washes and arroyos
    littered over the high desert. This threat expands into the Snake
    River basin of ID and adjacent zones later this evening. Totals
    between 1-2" (Locally higher in the northern Sierra) will be most
    common in the MRGL risk in place from the Central Valley of
    California up into Sawtooth and Salmon River Ranges of Idaho.

    Kleebauer

    ..Previous Discussions..

    ...Sierra/Great Basin...

    An upper low will dig into the West Coast while sending streams of
    vorticity into the Sierra Nevada, Great Basin and Northern
    Rockies. Diffluence will spread across the aforementioned areas
    throughout the day on Friday. At the surface, a low pressure system
    will propagate across the interior West, while anomalous moisture
    (3-4 stndv PWATs) streams in behind the preceding cold front.
    Scattered to isolated thunderstorms may develop and produce
    isolated instances of excessive rainfall and flash flooding.

    Upslope enhancement across the Sierra could produce heavier
    rainfall totals than what are currently forecast. EAS probabilities
    of 24 hour qpf exceeding 1 inch are over 40% in the Sierra and
    between 15-40% in the Great Basin. Therefore, burn scars over
    central and southern Idaho are at risk of flash flooding today.

    ...Eastern Florida...

    Moist easterly flow into a surface front oriented north-south will
    produce scattered convection across Florida today. The surface
    boundary draped along the eastern coast will focus PWATs of around
    2" in that area where MUCAPE between 500-1000 J/Kg will also likely
    produce high rain rates. Neighborhood probabilities of exceeding
    5" in 24 hours are between 40-90% from near Miami metro up through
    Melbourne and Orlando.

    Kebede


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025 - 12Z Sat Oct 04 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR THE EAST-=20
    CENTRAL FLORIDA COAST...

    ...Eastern Florida...

    20z Update: In coordination with the Melbourne WFO, a SLGT risk was
    added to the east-central Florida coast south of Melbourne. A
    remnant moisture flux tied to the trailing low-level shear axis
    from Imelda will slowly propagate westward out of the Bahamas with
    embedded mid-level vorticity trying to develop into a more
    concentric circulation as we step into Saturday AM. The pattern is
    a ongoing evolution that begins in D1 and just moves forward in
    time with frictional convergence regime aligned along the eastern=20
    FL coast, mainly in line with a surface trough forecast parallel to
    the coastal plain for the foreseeable future. Sufficient low-level
    buoyancy aided by a thin axis of 1500-2000 J/kg of MUCAPE along the
    coast with PWATs between 1.8-2.2" situated within the same zone
    should allow for a heightened threat of locally heavy rainfall
    within the east-central FL coastal plain, noted by several CAMs and
    ensemble members of both the GEFS/ECENS. Considering the high
    neighborhood probs for >5" (45-80%) focused near and just south of
    the Space Coast, a SLGT risk was added for the elevated threat of
    flash flooding within the urban zones that align the immediate
    coast to just inland around the I-95 corridor. Some adjustments in
    future updates are plausible pending near term convective
    evolutions, so this is a period to monitor closely as we move into
    tomorrow morning and beyond.=20

    ...Great Basin...

    20Z Update: Previous forecast remains steadfast with only minor
    changes made to the MRGL risk forecast across the Great Basin into
    portions of the interior Northwest. Heaviest precip axis will be
    focused over central NV into southern ID as the upper trough begins
    to close off as it migrates inland from the Pacific leading to
    enhanced large scale forcing and steeper lapse rates Friday
    afternoon and evening in these locations. Anticipating rates to
    remain <1"/hr for the threat, however some of these locations are
    susceptible to even 0.5"/hr rates due to high run and complex
    topography that promotes funneling. As a result, there wasn't much
    of a reason to deviate from the last forecast issuance, so only
    minor adjustments based on updated probs and mean QPF distribution
    were generated in this forecast cycle.=20

    Kleebauer

    ..Previous Discussion..

    The upper trough propagates through the Great Basin and begins
    lifting north on Friday. The excessive rainfall threat bleeds into
    Friday from Thursday as thunderstorms weaken and spread from the
    Great Basin into the Northern Rockies by Friday afternoon. Instability
    and moisture will be relatively modest (100-200 J/Kg MUCAPE)
    (0.5-0.9"). Ensemble exceedance probabilities of 1" are between
    10-20% over northern Nevada with 2 day totals potentially eclipsing
    2" in some places.

    Kebede


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Oct 04 2025 - 12Z Sun Oct 05 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR THE FLORIDA
    SPACE COAST...

    ...Eastern Florida...

    20Z Update: Surface evolution of a weak surface low off the=20
    eastern FL coast will be key in determining the extent of the heavy
    rainfall persistence in-of the FL coast by Saturday. As of now,=20
    the ensemble means suggest a weak surface reflection will form and=20
    migrate slowly inland of the peninsula by Saturday afternoon=20
    leading to a larger area of the FL coast being subject to enhanced=20 convergence and northern push of elevated PWATs/instability capable
    of flash flood prospects. Ensemble means are more generous than=20
    most deterministic, however the the scheme is certainly favorable=20
    for the threat of a repeated heavy rain scenario in-of the FL Space
    Coast. In coordination with the Melbourne WFO, another SLGT risk=20
    was added for much of the CWA as ensemble mean QPF of >2" aligns=20
    best within the zone that extends from Daytona Beach down to Port=20
    St Lucie. If the D2 materializes, this will end up being a case=20
    where wet antecedent conditions would exacerbate the potential=20
    leading to a greater case for scattered flash flood signals as the=20
    pattern evolves. With a better low-level convergence regime=20
    generating from the surface reflection nearby, the chance for=20
    heavier precip expanding north of the previous period would be be=20
    higher, thus the SLGT risk having a larger areal footprint compared
    to the previous D2. This remains a period to watch as small shifts
    in the synoptic scheme could shift heavy rain proxy and subsequent magnitudes.=20

    ...Central Gulf Coast...

    20Z Update: This setup remains on the lower end of the MRGL risk
    threshold due to the differences in placement of the heaviest
    precip aligned with the coastal convergence regime formulating over
    the northern Gulf waters. The latitudinal push of the convergent
    axis will likely dictate where the risk is even necessary as the
    southern Parishes are more than capable to absorb the heavy rain
    prospects promoted by some guidance. However, the urban corridor of
    New Orleans and nearby suburbs are more susceptible to flash flood
    prospects and were close enough to the highest mean QPF forecast
    that the main shift was to include the metro and shrink the overall
    risk footprint to align with areas that would see the heaviest
    precip potential and have the ability to entice flash flood
    prospects.=20

    Kleebauer

    ..Previous Discussion..

    Mid- level vorticity swirling over the Central Gulf=20
    Coast will generate instability and pull an increasing amount of=20
    Gulf moisture into the region on Saturday. Convection should fire=20
    along a coastal convergence zone that develops and diurnal heating=20
    should enhance afternoon/evening storms along that boundary. PWATs=20
    will likely be over 2" with MUCAPE between 500-750 J/Kg. Ensemble=20
    exceedance probabilities of 2" are between 15-30% for much of=20
    southeast Louisiana.

    Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-i4D47WCxDbxalBPmxU8kkMJUuLqC3vXbdJhglfFydnf= afXFExUEu1o9NNbpFBJWEtm1HpwPnLqKuVF-k_QOskagyg4$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-i4D47WCxDbxalBPmxU8kkMJUuLqC3vXbdJhglfFydnf= afXFExUEu1o9NNbpFBJWEtm1HpwPnLqKuVF-k_QOKCsvUaI$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-i4D47WCxDbxalBPmxU8kkMJUuLqC3vXbdJhglfFydnf= afXFExUEu1o9NNbpFBJWEtm1HpwPnLqKuVF-k_QOY2bKtH8$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 030042
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    842 PM EDT Thu Oct 2 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Fri Oct 03 2025 - 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SIERRA, GREAT BASIN AND EASTERN FLORIDA...

    01Z Update: The overall picture has changed little and the mesoscale expectations over the two risk areas outlined largely remained on
    track from the earlier outlook.

    Across FL, localized but high rainfall rates are expected across
    portions of the eastern Florida peninsula an southeast Florida
    this evening and into the overnight hours. Hourly rainfall rates of
    2 to 3 inches are expected which could result in localized flash
    flooding with urbanized areas and regions of poor drainage being
    the most vulnerable. With precipitable water values close to 2
    inches across this portion of Florida...and easterly flow of 20 to
    25 knots largely aligned perpendicular to the coastline which
    maximizes convergence combined with subtle cyclonic rotations
    evident on satellite imagery...the environment should be able to
    support and sustain upwards of 3 inch per hour rates within any
    slow moving axis of rainfall. Refer to Mesoscale Convective
    Discussion 1155 for additional details.

    Across portions of the Sierra and adjacent areas...training and
    repeating of showers and thunderstorms this evening may result in
    localized flash flooding due to hourly rainfall rates of 0.5 to
    1.0 inches that could result in rainfall totals of 1 to 2 inches.
    Even though instability is modest...the environment is
    characterized by precipitable water values of 1.0 to 1.4 inches (on
    the order of +2 to +4 standardized anomalies above climatology for
    early October) which at least suggests locally intense but brief
    downpours could be supported. Higher rainfall intensities falling
    on sensitive burn scars or urban areas would be most at risk for
    localized flash flooding into the late evening.

    Bann


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025 - 12Z Sat Oct 04 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR THE EAST-
    CENTRAL FLORIDA COAST...

    ...Eastern Florida...

    20z Update: In coordination with the Melbourne WFO, a SLGT risk was
    added to the east-central Florida coast south of Melbourne. A
    remnant moisture flux tied to the trailing low-level shear axis
    from Imelda will slowly propagate westward out of the Bahamas with
    embedded mid-level vorticity trying to develop into a more
    concentric circulation as we step into Saturday AM. The pattern is
    a ongoing evolution that begins in D1 and just moves forward in
    time with frictional convergence regime aligned along the eastern
    FL coast, mainly in line with a surface trough forecast parallel to
    the coastal plain for the foreseeable future. Sufficient low-level
    buoyancy aided by a thin axis of 1500-2000 J/kg of MUCAPE along the
    coast with PWATs between 1.8-2.2" situated within the same zone
    should allow for a heightened threat of locally heavy rainfall
    within the east-central FL coastal plain, noted by several CAMs and
    ensemble members of both the GEFS/ECENS. Considering the high
    neighborhood probs for >5" (45-80%) focused near and just south of
    the Space Coast, a SLGT risk was added for the elevated threat of
    flash flooding within the urban zones that align the immediate
    coast to just inland around the I-95 corridor. Some adjustments in
    future updates are plausible pending near term convective
    evolutions, so this is a period to monitor closely as we move into
    tomorrow morning and beyond.

    ...Great Basin...

    20Z Update: Previous forecast remains steadfast with only minor
    changes made to the MRGL risk forecast across the Great Basin into
    portions of the interior Northwest. Heaviest precip axis will be
    focused over central NV into southern ID as the upper trough begins
    to close off as it migrates inland from the Pacific leading to
    enhanced large scale forcing and steeper lapse rates Friday
    afternoon and evening in these locations. Anticipating rates to
    remain <1"/hr for the threat, however some of these locations are
    susceptible to even 0.5"/hr rates due to high run and complex
    topography that promotes funneling. As a result, there wasn't much
    of a reason to deviate from the last forecast issuance, so only
    minor adjustments based on updated probs and mean QPF distribution
    were generated in this forecast cycle.

    Kleebauer

    ..Previous Discussion..

    The upper trough propagates through the Great Basin and begins
    lifting north on Friday. The excessive rainfall threat bleeds into
    Friday from Thursday as thunderstorms weaken and spread from the
    Great Basin into the Northern Rockies by Friday afternoon. Instability
    and moisture will be relatively modest (100-200 J/Kg MUCAPE)
    (0.5-0.9"). Ensemble exceedance probabilities of 1" are between
    10-20% over northern Nevada with 2 day totals potentially eclipsing
    2" in some places.

    Kebede


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Oct 04 2025 - 12Z Sun Oct 05 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR THE FLORIDA
    SPACE COAST...

    ...Eastern Florida...

    20Z Update: Surface evolution of a weak surface low off the
    eastern FL coast will be key in determining the extent of the heavy
    rainfall persistence in-of the FL coast by Saturday. As of now,
    the ensemble means suggest a weak surface reflection will form and
    migrate slowly inland of the peninsula by Saturday afternoon
    leading to a larger area of the FL coast being subject to enhanced
    convergence and northern push of elevated PWATs/instability capable
    of flash flood prospects. Ensemble means are more generous than
    most deterministic, however the the scheme is certainly favorable
    for the threat of a repeated heavy rain scenario in-of the FL Space
    Coast. In coordination with the Melbourne WFO, another SLGT risk
    was added for much of the CWA as ensemble mean QPF of >2" aligns
    best within the zone that extends from Daytona Beach down to Port
    St Lucie. If the D2 materializes, this will end up being a case
    where wet antecedent conditions would exacerbate the potential
    leading to a greater case for scattered flash flood signals as the
    pattern evolves. With a better low-level convergence regime
    generating from the surface reflection nearby, the chance for
    heavier precip expanding north of the previous period would be be
    higher, thus the SLGT risk having a larger areal footprint compared
    to the previous D2. This remains a period to watch as small shifts
    in the synoptic scheme could shift heavy rain proxy and subsequent
    magnitudes.

    ...Central Gulf Coast...

    20Z Update: This setup remains on the lower end of the MRGL risk
    threshold due to the differences in placement of the heaviest
    precip aligned with the coastal convergence regime formulating over
    the northern Gulf waters. The latitudinal push of the convergent
    axis will likely dictate where the risk is even necessary as the
    southern Parishes are more than capable to absorb the heavy rain
    prospects promoted by some guidance. However, the urban corridor of
    New Orleans and nearby suburbs are more susceptible to flash flood
    prospects and were close enough to the highest mean QPF forecast
    that the main shift was to include the metro and shrink the overall
    risk footprint to align with areas that would see the heaviest
    precip potential and have the ability to entice flash flood
    prospects.

    Kleebauer

    ..Previous Discussion..

    Mid- level vorticity swirling over the Central Gulf
    Coast will generate instability and pull an increasing amount of
    Gulf moisture into the region on Saturday. Convection should fire
    along a coastal convergence zone that develops and diurnal heating
    should enhance afternoon/evening storms along that boundary. PWATs
    will likely be over 2" with MUCAPE between 500-750 J/Kg. Ensemble
    exceedance probabilities of 2" are between 15-30% for much of
    southeast Louisiana.

    Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7Sbq-SYohzwmL9S-WvAt0M62oMC6f3hAE52FREc2ydzh= pcqHMxBUUVNO5YAerMjNapHAPspy73jPMACLRhpeKMBuGys$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7Sbq-SYohzwmL9S-WvAt0M62oMC6f3hAE52FREc2ydzh= pcqHMxBUUVNO5YAerMjNapHAPspy73jPMACLRhpeOxUkboA$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7Sbq-SYohzwmL9S-WvAt0M62oMC6f3hAE52FREc2ydzh= pcqHMxBUUVNO5YAerMjNapHAPspy73jPMACLRhpeLXPSaA4$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Fri Oct 3 07:43:34 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 030743
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    343 AM EDT Fri Oct 3 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Fri Oct 03 2025 - 12Z Sat Oct 04 2025

    ...THERE'S A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    FLORIDA'S EAST COAST...

    ...Florida's East Coast...

    A closed mid-level disturbance will drift westward across the=20
    Florida Peninsula and into the Gulf of Mexico today. This system
    will bring tropical moisture from Imelda and Humberto with it. An=20
    inverted trough oriented along the Florida coast will interact with
    the moisture advecting into the region and force scattered=20
    thunderstorm activity throughout the day. Modest instability=20
    between 500-1000 J/Kg MUCAPE could produce quarter to half inch=20
    rates over the slight risk area. Parts of central and southern=20
    Florida that have received between 2-4 (isolated 5) inches of rain
    in the past 24 hours will be especially susceptible to runoff from
    today's storms. Neighborhood exceedance probabilities of 5 inches=20
    are between 20-40% across Florida's east coast today.

    ...Great Basin...

    Additional rainfall is forecast to occur beneath the upper low,
    which will continue propagating through the interior West today.=20
    Recent heavy rainfall over portions of the Great Basin will likely
    prime surfaces for runoff from additional precipitation. Burn=20
    scars in central and southern Idaho continue to be of concern from=20
    today's storms, the bulk of which should occur this morning into=20
    afternoon before the upper low moves directly over the Great Basin=20
    and instability weakens. HREF EAS exceedance probabilities of over=20
    1 inch are between 15-35% over northern/central Nevada where PWATs=20
    will be between 2-3 standard deviations above normal.


    Kebede

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Oct 04 2025 - 12Z Sun Oct 05 2025

    ...THERE'S A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    FLORIDA'S EAST COAST...

    ...Florida's East Coast...

    Thunderstorms are expected to continue to develop along the=20
    inverted trough axis oriented north-south along Florida's east=20
    coast on Saturday. Moisture will lift north along with the mid-
    level disturbance. The inherited slight and marginal risk areas=20
    were maintained due to a mostly consistent signal for excessive=20
    rainfall over the east central coast. Ensemble exceedance
    probabilities of 2 inches are between 5-10% across the marginal
    risk area. 48 hour totals between 3-5 inches (local 6") will likely
    make overcoming flash flood guidance a bit easier.

    ...Central Gulf Coast...

    The same moisture regime impacting the Florida peninsula will focus
    over the central Gulf Coast this weekend. Mid-level vorticity will
    lift into the area on Saturday, providing forcing for convection=20
    along the immediate Louisiana/Mississippi coast. Anywhere between=20
    4-6 inches of rain may occur over far southeastern Louisiana=20
    through Saturday night. Despite 2" ensemble exceedance=20
    probabilities being relatively low (5-10%), the multi day nature=20
    of the rainfall could still produce isolated instances of flash=20
    flooding.


    Kebede

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun Oct 05 2025 - 12Z Mon Oct 06 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE CENTRAL GULF COAST AND THE SOUTHEAST COAST...

    ...Central Gulf Coast...

    The mid-level disturbance continues propagating westward toward the
    positively tilted upper trough centered over the West on Sunday.
    Thus, the heavy rainfall threat will likely bleed over from=20
    Saturday evening into Sunday morning for portions of the Central=20
    Gulf Coast, before dissipating beneath diminished support aloft.
    PWATs of 2-2.5" and instability between 500-1000 J/Kg MUCAPE could
    churn out rain rates between 1-1.5"/hr Saturday morning into
    afternoon. Ensemble exceedance probabilities of 2 inches are=20
    between 5-15% along the far southeastern Louisiana to Florida=20
    panhandle corridor, which supports the marginal risk area in=20
    place.=20

    ...Southeast Coast...

    Inverted troughing continues along the Florida/Southeast Coast
    through the latter part of this weekend. Anomalous moisture (2-3=20
    stndv) will continue interacting with the surface boundary to=20
    generate scattered to isolated thunderstorms across the=20
    Florida/Georgia coast. Rainfall totals of 1-3" are likely along=20
    the Florida/Georgia/South Carolina coast on Saturday. The latest=20
    guidance has trended away from tropical moisture making its way=20
    inland, therefore a marginal risk was maintained for much of the=20
    Southeast Coast.


    Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8lou75ZfJWo2XtaYp7O5H36FbT1XQ0rdJuOpCqww5bLk= W6qQh2J7MWsvbtYwrLDOhkHS6lLKjThVbWuFloWTkAaU93w$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8lou75ZfJWo2XtaYp7O5H36FbT1XQ0rdJuOpCqww5bLk= W6qQh2J7MWsvbtYwrLDOhkHS6lLKjThVbWuFloWTugsQsDQ$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8lou75ZfJWo2XtaYp7O5H36FbT1XQ0rdJuOpCqww5bLk= W6qQh2J7MWsvbtYwrLDOhkHS6lLKjThVbWuFloWT2N5mr7I$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 031602
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1202 PM EDT Fri Oct 3 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Fri Oct 03 2025 - 12Z Sat Oct 04 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN FLORIDA AND THE INTERMOUNTAIN WEST...

    ...Florida's East Coast...

    For the 16Z Update, the Slight Risk centered along Florida's
    Treasure Coast was removed. While easterly flow is still expected
    to support showers and storms, with isolated heavy amounts possible=20
    along Florida's East Coast, the consensus of the HREF/RRFS has=20
    trended down along the Treasure Coast -- showing the focus for=20
    deeper moisture and heavier amounts further south. Probabilities=20
    from the HREF/RRFS now indicate the greatest chance for heavy=20
    amounts through the remainder of Day 1 is across Southeast Florida,
    which may result in runoff concerns, especially if they set up=20
    over the urbanized areas. However, confidence in the details is=20
    limited, with some indication that the heaviest amounts may set up
    west of the urbanized areas over the Everglades. Therefore,=20
    maintained just a Marginal Risk for now.

    ...Great Basin...

    Additional rainfall is forecast to occur beneath the upper low,
    which will continue propagating through the interior West today.
    Recent heavy rainfall over portions of the Great Basin will likely
    prime surfaces for runoff from additional precipitation. Burn
    scars in central and southern Idaho continue to be of concern from
    today's storms, the bulk of which should occur this morning into
    afternoon before the upper low moves directly over the Great Basin
    and instability weakens. HREF EAS exceedance probabilities of over
    1 inch are between 15-35% over northern/central Nevada where PWATs
    will be between 2-3 standard deviations above normal.


    Pereira/Kebede

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Oct 04 2025 - 12Z Sun Oct 05 2025

    ...THERE'S A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    FLORIDA'S EAST COAST...

    ...Florida's East Coast...

    Thunderstorms are expected to continue to develop along the
    inverted trough axis oriented north-south along Florida's east
    coast on Saturday. Moisture will lift north along with the mid-
    level disturbance. The inherited slight and marginal risk areas
    were maintained due to a mostly consistent signal for excessive
    rainfall over the east central coast. Ensemble exceedance
    probabilities of 2 inches are between 5-10% across the marginal
    risk area. 48 hour totals between 3-5 inches (local 6") will likely
    make overcoming flash flood guidance a bit easier.

    ...Central Gulf Coast...

    The same moisture regime impacting the Florida peninsula will focus
    over the central Gulf Coast this weekend. Mid-level vorticity will
    lift into the area on Saturday, providing forcing for convection
    along the immediate Louisiana/Mississippi coast. Anywhere between
    4-6 inches of rain may occur over far southeastern Louisiana
    through Saturday night. Despite 2" ensemble exceedance
    probabilities being relatively low (5-10%), the multi day nature
    of the rainfall could still produce isolated instances of flash
    flooding.


    Kebede

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun Oct 05 2025 - 12Z Mon Oct 06 2025

    ...THERE'S A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE CENTRAL GULF COAST AND THE SOUTHEAST COAST...

    ...Central Gulf Coast...

    The mid-level disturbance continues propagating westward toward the
    positively tilted upper trough centered over the West on Sunday.
    Thus, the heavy rainfall threat will likely bleed over from
    Saturday evening into Sunday morning for portions of the Central
    Gulf Coast, before dissipating beneath diminished support aloft.
    PWATs of 2-2.5" and instability between 500-1000 J/Kg MUCAPE could
    churn out rain rates between 1-1.5"/hr Saturday morning into
    afternoon. Ensemble exceedance probabilities of 2 inches are
    between 5-15% along the far southeastern Louisiana to Florida
    panhandle corridor, which supports the marginal risk area in
    place.

    ...Southeast Coast...

    Inverted troughing continues along the Florida/Southeast Coast
    through the latter part of this weekend. Anomalous moisture (2-3
    stndv) will continue interacting with the surface boundary to
    generate scattered to isolated thunderstorms across the
    Florida/Georgia coast. Rainfall totals of 1-3" are likely along
    the Florida/Georgia/South Carolina coast on Saturday. The latest
    guidance has trended away from tropical moisture making its way
    inland, therefore a marginal risk was maintained for much of the
    Southeast Coast.


    Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4W0WTOsZBXy7bIn50nQYOd9hE61R1hNw9pyfn6wACvrt= kINYEAYL_efBcfQO7vY3575CIscAmdX-SnGA4ejP47iUn1A$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4W0WTOsZBXy7bIn50nQYOd9hE61R1hNw9pyfn6wACvrt= kINYEAYL_efBcfQO7vY3575CIscAmdX-SnGA4ejPL2Jz_AY$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4W0WTOsZBXy7bIn50nQYOd9hE61R1hNw9pyfn6wACvrt= kINYEAYL_efBcfQO7vY3575CIscAmdX-SnGA4ejPfgJlpzM$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 031952
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    352 PM EDT Fri Oct 3 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Fri Oct 03 2025 - 12Z Sat Oct 04 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN FLORIDA AND THE INTERMOUNTAIN WEST...

    ...Florida's East Coast...

    For the 16Z Update, the Slight Risk centered along Florida's
    Treasure Coast was removed. While easterly flow is still expected
    to support showers and storms, with isolated heavy amounts possible
    along Florida's East Coast, the consensus of the HREF/RRFS has
    trended down along the Treasure Coast -- showing the focus for
    deeper moisture and heavier amounts further south. Probabilities
    from the HREF/RRFS now indicate the greatest chance for heavy
    amounts through the remainder of Day 1 is across Southeast Florida,
    which may result in runoff concerns, especially if they set up
    over the urbanized areas. However, confidence in the details is
    limited, with some indication that the heaviest amounts may set up
    west of the urbanized areas over the Everglades. Therefore,
    maintained just a Marginal Risk for now.

    ...Great Basin...

    Additional rainfall is forecast to occur beneath the upper low,
    which will continue propagating through the interior West today.
    Recent heavy rainfall over portions of the Great Basin will likely
    prime surfaces for runoff from additional precipitation. Burn
    scars in central and southern Idaho continue to be of concern from
    today's storms, the bulk of which should occur this morning into
    afternoon before the upper low moves directly over the Great Basin
    and instability weakens. HREF EAS exceedance probabilities of over
    1 inch are between 15-35% over northern/central Nevada where PWATs
    will be between 2-3 standard deviations above normal.


    Pereira/Kebede

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Oct 04 2025 - 12Z Sun Oct 05 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF=20
    FLORIDA'S EAST COAST...

    20Z Update...
    The Marginal Risk was removed from southeastern Louisiana.
    Consensus of the 12Z HREF and 06Z RRFS showed their higher
    probabilities for onshore heavy amounts that are associated with a
    slow-moving wave remaining confined to the immediate coast and=20
    away from the more vulnerable I-10 corridor. Should the models=20
    trend back to the north, a Marginal Risk may be reintroduced, but=20
    for now the area has been removed from the outlook.

    For the Florida East Coast, the signal for widespread showers and
    storms, with locally heavy amounts remain. Models have been
    generally trending lighter with their QPF. However, with the HREF
    still showing some higher probabilities for amounts over 3 inches,
    left the Slight Risk centered along the Space/Treasure coasts in
    place for now. Also extended the Marginal Risk further south into
    the Miami metro, where the hi-res ensembles also show some higher
    for amounts over 3 inches.

    Previous Discussion...
    ...Florida's East Coast...

    Thunderstorms are expected to continue to develop along the
    inverted trough axis oriented north-south along Florida's east
    coast on Saturday. Moisture will lift north along with the mid-
    level disturbance. The inherited slight and marginal risk areas
    were maintained due to a mostly consistent signal for excessive
    rainfall over the east central coast. Ensemble exceedance
    probabilities of 2 inches are between 5-10% across the marginal
    risk area. 48 hour totals between 3-5 inches (local 6") will likely
    make overcoming flash flood guidance a bit easier.


    Pereira/Kebede

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun Oct 05 2025 - 12Z Mon Oct 06 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF=20
    THE CENTRAL GULF COAST AND THE SOUTHEAST COAST...

    20Z Update...

    No significant changes were made to the previous outlook.

    Previous Discussion...
    ...Central Gulf Coast...

    The mid-level disturbance continues propagating westward toward the
    positively tilted upper trough centered over the West on Sunday.
    Thus, the heavy rainfall threat will likely bleed over from
    Saturday evening into Sunday morning for portions of the Central
    Gulf Coast, before dissipating beneath diminished support aloft.
    PWATs of 2-2.5" and instability between 500-1000 J/Kg MUCAPE could
    churn out rain rates between 1-1.5"/hr Saturday morning into
    afternoon. Ensemble exceedance probabilities of 2 inches are
    between 5-15% along the far southeastern Louisiana to Florida
    panhandle corridor, which supports the marginal risk area in
    place.

    ...Southeast Coast...

    Inverted troughing continues along the Florida/Southeast Coast
    through the latter part of this weekend. Anomalous moisture (2-3
    stndv) will continue interacting with the surface boundary to
    generate scattered to isolated thunderstorms across the
    Florida/Georgia coast. Rainfall totals of 1-3" are likely along
    the Florida/Georgia/South Carolina coast on Saturday. The latest
    guidance has trended away from tropical moisture making its way
    inland, therefore a marginal risk was maintained for much of the
    Southeast Coast.


    Pereira/Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-kSHFf9FGbEElz7CDUL0IWF94vaj4ZL2TdCZqDLSWmRw= 5cKYQ1bnLI8KZVYDgCgvfzkmuuOyFzpTu9I6x-oMNsNcmEY$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-kSHFf9FGbEElz7CDUL0IWF94vaj4ZL2TdCZqDLSWmRw= 5cKYQ1bnLI8KZVYDgCgvfzkmuuOyFzpTu9I6x-oMv40Y12o$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-kSHFf9FGbEElz7CDUL0IWF94vaj4ZL2TdCZqDLSWmRw= 5cKYQ1bnLI8KZVYDgCgvfzkmuuOyFzpTu9I6x-oMWwWDWsE$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 040056
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    856 PM EDT Fri Oct 3 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Sat Oct 04 2025 - 12Z Sat Oct 04 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN FLORIDA AND THE INTERMOUNTAIN WEST...

    ...Florida's East Coast...

    For the 03/01Z Update, made few changes to either Marginal Risk
    area. The northern portion of the Marginal Risk area in Florida was
    removed for the duration of the overnight hours as drier air
    filtered in from the north during the day. The respite should be
    short-lived. Farther south...maintained the Marginal Risk area
    where the moisture was deeper and radar still showed some showers
    and thunderstorms poised to move inland with some potential to
    bring brief heavy rainfall to highly urbanized areas in the short=20
    term.


    Across the West...Late afternoon/early evening water vapor
    satellite imagery showed a shortwave trough making its was across
    the southern portion of the Marginal risk area. That was helping
    focus some generally light showers. Maintained the Marginal risk
    area given recent heavy rainfall over portions of the Great Basin=20
    will likely have primed surfaces for runoff from additional=20
    precipitation. Burn scars continue to be of concern this evening.
    Also noted that the 18Z HREF EAS exceedance probabilities continued
    to show a low-end risk of 1- and 3-hourly flash flood guidance
    being exceeded into the overnight hours over northern/central=20
    Nevada where PWATs will be between 2-3 standard deviations above=20
    normal.

    Bann

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Oct 04 2025 - 12Z Sun Oct 05 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    FLORIDA'S EAST COAST...

    20Z Update...
    The Marginal Risk was removed from southeastern Louisiana.
    Consensus of the 12Z HREF and 06Z RRFS showed their higher
    probabilities for onshore heavy amounts that are associated with a
    slow-moving wave remaining confined to the immediate coast and
    away from the more vulnerable I-10 corridor. Should the models
    trend back to the north, a Marginal Risk may be reintroduced, but
    for now the area has been removed from the outlook.

    For the Florida East Coast, the signal for widespread showers and
    storms, with locally heavy amounts remain. Models have been
    generally trending lighter with their QPF. However, with the HREF
    still showing some higher probabilities for amounts over 3 inches,
    left the Slight Risk centered along the Space/Treasure coasts in
    place for now. Also extended the Marginal Risk further south into
    the Miami metro, where the hi-res ensembles also show some higher
    for amounts over 3 inches.

    Previous Discussion...
    ...Florida's East Coast...

    Thunderstorms are expected to continue to develop along the
    inverted trough axis oriented north-south along Florida's east
    coast on Saturday. Moisture will lift north along with the mid-
    level disturbance. The inherited slight and marginal risk areas
    were maintained due to a mostly consistent signal for excessive
    rainfall over the east central coast. Ensemble exceedance
    probabilities of 2 inches are between 5-10% across the marginal
    risk area. 48 hour totals between 3-5 inches (local 6") will likely
    make overcoming flash flood guidance a bit easier.


    Pereira/Kebede

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun Oct 05 2025 - 12Z Mon Oct 06 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE CENTRAL GULF COAST AND THE SOUTHEAST COAST...

    20Z Update...

    No significant changes were made to the previous outlook.

    Previous Discussion...
    ...Central Gulf Coast...

    The mid-level disturbance continues propagating westward toward the
    positively tilted upper trough centered over the West on Sunday.
    Thus, the heavy rainfall threat will likely bleed over from
    Saturday evening into Sunday morning for portions of the Central
    Gulf Coast, before dissipating beneath diminished support aloft.
    PWATs of 2-2.5" and instability between 500-1000 J/Kg MUCAPE could
    churn out rain rates between 1-1.5"/hr Saturday morning into
    afternoon. Ensemble exceedance probabilities of 2 inches are
    between 5-15% along the far southeastern Louisiana to Florida
    panhandle corridor, which supports the marginal risk area in
    place.

    ...Southeast Coast...

    Inverted troughing continues along the Florida/Southeast Coast
    through the latter part of this weekend. Anomalous moisture (2-3
    stndv) will continue interacting with the surface boundary to
    generate scattered to isolated thunderstorms across the
    Florida/Georgia coast. Rainfall totals of 1-3" are likely along
    the Florida/Georgia/South Carolina coast on Saturday. The latest
    guidance has trended away from tropical moisture making its way
    inland, therefore a marginal risk was maintained for much of the
    Southeast Coast.


    Pereira/Kebede


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7q1YusVS2TQk_bBeEGA09DfUHFZVKq_Jy_wy8qjwKM0C= z4NJoGOVcYBasMjuB09LIxQl-P64D7tOb09edAZNsIPvlCM$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7q1YusVS2TQk_bBeEGA09DfUHFZVKq_Jy_wy8qjwKM0C= z4NJoGOVcYBasMjuB09LIxQl-P64D7tOb09edAZNPekqucc$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7q1YusVS2TQk_bBeEGA09DfUHFZVKq_Jy_wy8qjwKM0C= z4NJoGOVcYBasMjuB09LIxQl-P64D7tOb09edAZNI9JBRVY$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 040814
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    414 AM EDT Sat Oct 4 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Sat Oct 04 2025 - 12Z Sun Oct 05 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE EASTERN GREAT BASIN ALONG WITH THE CENTRAL GULF COAST AND
    COASTAL GEORGIA DOWN THROUGH THE FLORIDA EAST COAST...

    ...Eastern Great Basin...

    An amplifying upper-level trough advancing through the Great Basin
    will be driving multiple waves of low pressure northeastward along
    a frontal zone draped across the Intermountain Region. The latest=20
    forecast guidance supports a strengthening mid to upper-level=20
    closed low circulation pivoting across northern UT early this=20
    morning before ejecting through western WY this afternoon. Strong
    dynamics/DPVA will ride up across northern UT along with far
    southeast ID and western WY which will be interacting with the
    front and the pooling of modest instability (MLCAPE ~500 J/kg)
    along it for an axis of locally heavy showers and thunderstorms.
    Much of this threat will be this morning (notably in the 12Z to 18Z
    time frame) as the height falls pivot across the region. The 00Z
    HREF guidance suggests some organized convection that will be
    capable of producing 1 to 2+ inches of rain which may include some
    brief cell-training concerns for areas near and west of the=20
    Wasatch front including around the Great Salt Lake. Can't rule out
    there being at least some isolated runoff/flash flooding concerns
    from these stronger clusters of convection that evolve this
    morning. Therefore, a Marginal Risk of excessive rainfall has been
    introduced, but this again is mainly for early in the period today.

    ...Central Gulf Coast...

    A low to mid-level vort center/disturbance over the northern Gulf
    of America is forecast to slowly advance westward today which will
    help to bring stronger low-level southeast flow and moisture into
    southeast LA and coastal MS. Sufficient low-level forcing associated
    with the vort energy coupled with at least modest instability with
    MLCAPE values of 1000 to 1500 J/kg will support there being at
    least scattered bands of convection that will develop and advance
    inland across the central Gulf Coast. Some of the 00Z HREF guidance
    and recent RRFS solutions suggest some linearly oriented convective
    bands potentially setting up that would support some locally
    enhanced rainfall totals. Given the improving PW environment with
    values of 1.75 to 2+ inches, and a convergent southeast low-level=20
    jet of 30+ kts, some of the rainfall rates may reach or exceed 2
    inches/hour. The potential banded nature of the activity may
    support some localized rainfall totals going into early Sunday
    morning of 2 to 4+ inches. These rains will pose at least an=20
    isolated threat for flash flooding, and especially if any of these=20
    heavier rains were to make into the New Orleans metropolitan area.=20
    As such, a Marginal Risk of excessive rainfall has been introduced=20
    for this period for the central Gulf Coast.

    ...Coastal Georgia and the Florida East Coast...

    Low-level easterly flow will persist today and tonight across the=20
    FL East Coast given the placement of a well-established area of=20
    surface high pressure farther north over the Mid-Atlantic states.=20
    However, the surface ridging is forecast by the models to shift
    offshore by later today which will allow for some veering and=20
    strengthening of the Atlantic fetch a bit farther north up into=20
    coastal areas of eastern GA. The latest hires model guidance=20
    suggests a stronger axis of low-level moisture convergence along=20
    with pooling of instability into coastal areas of eastern GA and=20
    near the SC border. Some locally focused bands of relatively=20 shallow/warm-topped convection may attempt impact the coastal=20
    areas here, with some guidance suggesting locally a couple inches=20
    of rain being possible. Farther south, the FL East Coast should=20
    continue to see scattered to broken areas of showers and=20
    potentially a few thunderstorms. However, the activity should=20
    remain disorganized given a lack of deeper layer forcing and only=20
    modest low-level convergence along the coast. The Slight Risk area=20
    that was inherited for the FL Space Coast vicinity has been removed
    in favor of a Marginal Risk which will include the north/south=20
    length of the FL East Coast, but extending northward now to the=20
    SC/GA border. Any runoff concerns from heavy rainfall will tend to=20
    be highly isolated and primarily focused over the more urbanized=20
    areas.

    Orrison


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Oct 05 2025 - 12Z Mon Oct 06 2025

    ...THERE IS MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF=20
    THE CENTRAL GULF COAST, THE SOUTHEAST COAST, AND THE CENTRAL=20
    PLAINS...

    ...Central Gulf Coast...=20

    A weak disturbance in the western Gulf will likely continue to focus=20 enhanced convergence and convection along portions of the central=20
    Gulf Coast into Sunday. Heaviest rainfall totals may tend to stay=20
    just offshore where the better instability will reside...although=20
    coastal convergence and instability into the immediate coastline=20
    should allow for some heavier cells to make it onshore. Even our=20 deterministic QPF, which is a multi model blend, brings two day=20
    rainfall totals as high as 3-5" over far southeast LA and right=20
    around 3" along coastal MS and AL. Given the convective nature of=20
    rainfall and PWs over 2" would expect totals to locally exceed these=20 amounts, and isolated instances of flash flooding are possible. The=20
    00z REFS probabilities of 8" is over 90% across coastal MS/AL. This=20
    is seemingly an under dispersed ensemble in this case, but=20
    interesting nonetheless, and possibly indicative of a lower=20
    probability worst case scenario. Either way, will need to continue=20
    to monitor trends, as can not rule out the need for a Slight risk=20
    along portions of the immediate coast.

    ...Southeast Coast...=20

    The model QPF signal continues to trend down across the Southeast=20
    coast, although onshore easterly flow, coastal convergence and PWs=20
    around 2" will support localized instances of heavy rainfall.=20
    Overall the flash flood risk appears pretty low, but an isolated=20
    threat can not be ruled out.

    ...Central Plains...

    Convection will likely expand in coverage Sunday evening across=20
    portions of northeast KS, southeast NE and southwest IA. A stalling=20
    frontal boundary will allow for persistent moisture convergence in=20
    the lower levels coupled with a divergence signature aloft. Thus it=20
    seems probable that rainfall will persist through much of the night,=20
    not moving all that much over that time. Whether we see any flash=20
    flood risk evolve will likely come down to the degree of instability=20 present. It seems likely that we will initially have enough=20
    instability for deeper convection and 1"+ an hour rainfall. However=20
    most indications are that this instability axis will be rather=20
    narrow and under 1000 j/kg. Thus would expect that instability to=20
    get eroded fairly quickly, resulting in decreasing rainfall rates=20
    overnight. Nonetheless, our latest deterministic QPF has 1-2" of=20
    rain, with 2-3" if you include the rain that continues into Monday.=20
    When accounting for convection resulting in locally heavier amounts,=20
    and the possibility that instability ends up greater than forecast=20
    (which a couple models show) then a low end flash flood risk can not=20
    be ruled out.

    Chenard


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Oct 06 2025 - 12Z Tue Oct 07 2025

    ...THERE IS MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS EASTERN=20
    FLORIDA AND THE CENTRAL PLAINS...

    ...Eastern FL...

    The 00z ECMWF, AIFS and GEFS mean all suggest an increase in=20
    convective coverage over eastern FL on Monday compared to Sunday.=20
    The approach of a subtle mid level wave may help increase low level=20
    easterly moisture transport while also providing a bit more in the=20
    way of upper divergence. Isolated urban flash flooding should thus=20
    remain a threat into Monday, although would anticipate the risk to=20
    stay quite localized. There has been a clear model trend away from=20
    bringing heavier rainfall into SC/GA and thus the northern extent of=20
    the Marginal risk was cut back.

    ...Central Plains...

    Some convection will likely be ongoing Monday morning across=20
    portions of northeast KS, southeast NE, southwest IA and northwest=20
    MO. The stalled front will remain in the area through the day likely=20
    helping focus additional convection that should only slowly drift=20
    southward. Instability should increase Monday along this front,=20
    however this will coincide with a decrease in moisture transport and=20 convergence along the front. Thus not really anticipating anything=20
    more than a very localized flash flood risk. The threat is likely a=20
    lower end Marginal risk, but given the slow front and two day=20
    rainfall totals of 2", to perhaps as high as 3-4", across this=20
    corridor, localized flooding can not be ruled out. We will maintain=20
    the inherited Marginal risk, but shrink to to better coincide with=20
    the axis of highest two day rainfall totals.

    Chenard


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6B8zGnJotp6gy6Qp8HU2z8sabs-sIlBTh94Ul5vNaZo_= WgKrSOghCRdI2FqM_l-PHgqcavOaCjxcF0aMZVMwSelqNV8$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6B8zGnJotp6gy6Qp8HU2z8sabs-sIlBTh94Ul5vNaZo_= WgKrSOghCRdI2FqM_l-PHgqcavOaCjxcF0aMZVMwIdTvY4Q$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6B8zGnJotp6gy6Qp8HU2z8sabs-sIlBTh94Ul5vNaZo_= WgKrSOghCRdI2FqM_l-PHgqcavOaCjxcF0aMZVMwNTMmku8$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 041538
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1138 AM EDT Sat Oct 4 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sat Oct 4 2025 - 12Z Sun Oct 5 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE EASTERN GREAT BASIN ALONG WITH THE CENTRAL GULF COAST AND
    COASTAL GEORGIA DOWN THROUGH THE FLORIDA EAST COAST...

    ...Eastern Great Basin...

    16Z Update: Upon examination of current radar trends in northern
    Utah, it appears the mesoscale convective vortex associated with
    the mid-level upper low is still producing widespread moderate to
    heavy rainfall from the greater Salt Lake City area to near the
    Idaho border. Movement of the vortex is slowly towards the NNE, and
    recent CAM guidance suggests this will persist through about 18-20Z
    before lifting out of the region and weakening. Therefore, the
    existing Marginal Risk area will remain valid for now.

    Previous discussion...

    An amplifying upper-level trough advancing through the Great Basin
    will be driving multiple waves of low pressure northeastward along
    a frontal zone draped across the Intermountain Region. The latest
    forecast guidance supports a strengthening mid to upper-level
    closed low circulation pivoting across northern UT early this
    morning before ejecting through western WY this afternoon. Strong
    dynamics/DPVA will ride up across northern UT along with far
    southeast ID and western WY which will be interacting with the
    front and the pooling of modest instability (MLCAPE ~500 J/kg)
    along it for an axis of locally heavy showers and thunderstorms.
    Much of this threat will be this morning (notably in the 12Z to 18Z
    time frame) as the height falls pivot across the region. The 00Z
    HREF guidance suggests some organized convection that will be
    capable of producing 1 to 2+ inches of rain which may include some
    brief cell-training concerns for areas near and west of the
    Wasatch front including around the Great Salt Lake. Can't rule out
    there being at least some isolated runoff/flash flooding concerns
    from these stronger clusters of convection that evolve this
    morning. Therefore, a Marginal Risk of excessive rainfall has been
    introduced, but this again is mainly for early in the period today.

    ...Central Gulf Coast...

    A low to mid-level vort center/disturbance over the northern Gulf
    is forecast to slowly advance westward today which will help to=20
    bring stronger low-level southeast flow and moisture into southeast
    LA and coastal MS. Sufficient low-level forcing associated with=20
    the vort energy coupled with at least modest instability with=20
    MLCAPE values of 1000 to 1500 J/kg will support there being at=20
    least scattered bands of convection that will develop and advance=20
    inland across the central Gulf Coast. Some of the 00Z HREF guidance
    and recent RRFS solutions suggest some linearly oriented=20
    convective bands potentially setting up that would support some=20
    locally enhanced rainfall totals. Given the improving PW=20
    environment with values of 1.75 to 2+ inches, and a convergent=20
    southeast low-level jet of 30+ kts, some of the rainfall rates may=20
    reach or exceed 2 inches/hour. The potential banded nature of the=20
    activity may support some localized rainfall totals going into=20
    early Sunday morning of 2 to 4+ inches. These rains will pose at=20
    least an isolated threat for flash flooding, and especially if any=20
    of these heavier rains were to make into the New Orleans=20
    metropolitan area.=20

    The existing Marginal Risk of excessive rainfall has been=20
    maintained for this period for the central Gulf Coast, but trimmed=20
    back to southeastern Louisiana south of Lake Pontchartrain where=20
    the highest rainfall coverage is likely to reside.

    ...Coastal Georgia and the Florida East Coast...

    Low-level easterly flow will persist today and tonight across the
    FL East Coast given the placement of a well-established area of
    surface high pressure farther north over the Mid-Atlantic states.
    However, the surface ridging is forecast by the models to shift
    offshore by later today which will allow for some veering and
    strengthening of the Atlantic fetch a bit farther north up into
    coastal areas of eastern GA. The latest hires model guidance
    suggests a stronger axis of low-level moisture convergence along
    with pooling of instability into coastal areas of eastern GA and
    near the SC border. Some locally focused bands of relatively shallow/warm-topped convection may attempt impact the coastal
    areas here, with some guidance suggesting locally a couple inches
    of rain being possible. Farther south, the FL East Coast should
    continue to see scattered to broken areas of showers and
    potentially a few thunderstorms. However, the activity should
    remain disorganized given a lack of deeper layer forcing and only
    modest low-level convergence along the coast. Any runoff concerns=20
    from heavy rainfall will tend to be highly isolated and primarily=20
    focused over the more urbanized areas. No changes were necessary to
    the ongoing Marginal Risk area for this region.

    Hamrick/Orrison


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Oct 05 2025 - 12Z Mon Oct 06 2025

    ...THERE IS MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE CENTRAL GULF COAST, THE SOUTHEAST COAST, AND THE CENTRAL
    PLAINS...

    ...Central Gulf Coast...

    A weak disturbance in the western Gulf will likely continue to focus
    enhanced convergence and convection along portions of the central
    Gulf Coast into Sunday. Heaviest rainfall totals may tend to stay
    just offshore where the better instability will reside...although
    coastal convergence and instability into the immediate coastline
    should allow for some heavier cells to make it onshore. Even our
    deterministic QPF, which is a multi model blend, brings two day
    rainfall totals as high as 3-5" over far southeast LA and right
    around 3" along coastal MS and AL. Given the convective nature of
    rainfall and PWs over 2" would expect totals to locally exceed these
    amounts, and isolated instances of flash flooding are possible. The
    00z REFS probabilities of 8" is over 90% across coastal MS/AL. This
    is seemingly an under dispersed ensemble in this case, but
    interesting nonetheless, and possibly indicative of a lower
    probability worst case scenario. Either way, will need to continue
    to monitor trends, as can not rule out the need for a Slight risk
    along portions of the immediate coast.

    ...Southeast Coast...

    The model QPF signal continues to trend down across the Southeast
    coast, although onshore easterly flow, coastal convergence and PWs
    around 2" will support localized instances of heavy rainfall.
    Overall the flash flood risk appears pretty low, but an isolated
    threat can not be ruled out.

    ...Central Plains...

    Convection will likely expand in coverage Sunday evening across
    portions of northeast KS, southeast NE and southwest IA. A stalling
    frontal boundary will allow for persistent moisture convergence in
    the lower levels coupled with a divergence signature aloft. Thus it
    seems probable that rainfall will persist through much of the night,
    not moving all that much over that time. Whether we see any flash
    flood risk evolve will likely come down to the degree of instability
    present. It seems likely that we will initially have enough
    instability for deeper convection and 1"+ an hour rainfall. However
    most indications are that this instability axis will be rather
    narrow and under 1000 j/kg. Thus would expect that instability to
    get eroded fairly quickly, resulting in decreasing rainfall rates
    overnight. Nonetheless, our latest deterministic QPF has 1-2" of
    rain, with 2-3" if you include the rain that continues into Monday.
    When accounting for convection resulting in locally heavier amounts,
    and the possibility that instability ends up greater than forecast
    (which a couple models show) then a low end flash flood risk can not
    be ruled out.

    Chenard


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Oct 06 2025 - 12Z Tue Oct 07 2025

    ...THERE IS MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS EASTERN
    FLORIDA AND THE CENTRAL PLAINS...

    ...Eastern FL...

    The 00z ECMWF, AIFS and GEFS mean all suggest an increase in
    convective coverage over eastern FL on Monday compared to Sunday.
    The approach of a subtle mid level wave may help increase low level
    easterly moisture transport while also providing a bit more in the
    way of upper divergence. Isolated urban flash flooding should thus
    remain a threat into Monday, although would anticipate the risk to
    stay quite localized. There has been a clear model trend away from
    bringing heavier rainfall into SC/GA and thus the northern extent of
    the Marginal risk was cut back.

    ...Central Plains...

    Some convection will likely be ongoing Monday morning across
    portions of northeast KS, southeast NE, southwest IA and northwest
    MO. The stalled front will remain in the area through the day likely
    helping focus additional convection that should only slowly drift
    southward. Instability should increase Monday along this front,
    however this will coincide with a decrease in moisture transport and convergence along the front. Thus not really anticipating anything
    more than a very localized flash flood risk. The threat is likely a
    lower end Marginal risk, but given the slow front and two day
    rainfall totals of 2", to perhaps as high as 3-4", across this
    corridor, localized flooding can not be ruled out. We will maintain
    the inherited Marginal risk, but shrink to to better coincide with
    the axis of highest two day rainfall totals.

    Chenard


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4axyas_ABHT28kL5L2Qt_blvD6pLxYxGQRpIpXeCQHlk= I5mP0nIqG9NOrCcc0rXSkgtwPt-HX-5XHO8pItnQ5KVnKUI$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4axyas_ABHT28kL5L2Qt_blvD6pLxYxGQRpIpXeCQHlk= I5mP0nIqG9NOrCcc0rXSkgtwPt-HX-5XHO8pItnQA094Ens$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4axyas_ABHT28kL5L2Qt_blvD6pLxYxGQRpIpXeCQHlk= I5mP0nIqG9NOrCcc0rXSkgtwPt-HX-5XHO8pItnQukx3IW4$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 041955
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    355 PM EDT Sat Oct 4 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sat Oct 04 2025 - 12Z Sun Oct 05 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE EASTERN GREAT BASIN ALONG WITH THE CENTRAL GULF COAST AND
    COASTAL GEORGIA DOWN THROUGH THE FLORIDA EAST COAST...

    ...Eastern Great Basin...

    16Z Update: Upon examination of current radar trends in northern
    Utah, it appears the mesoscale convective vortex associated with
    the mid-level upper low is still producing widespread moderate to
    heavy rainfall from the greater Salt Lake City area to near the
    Idaho border. Movement of the vortex is slowly towards the NNE, and
    recent CAM guidance suggests this will persist through about 18-20Z
    before lifting out of the region and weakening. Therefore, the
    existing Marginal Risk area will remain valid for now.

    Previous discussion...

    An amplifying upper-level trough advancing through the Great Basin
    will be driving multiple waves of low pressure northeastward along
    a frontal zone draped across the Intermountain Region. The latest
    forecast guidance supports a strengthening mid to upper-level
    closed low circulation pivoting across northern UT early this
    morning before ejecting through western WY this afternoon. Strong
    dynamics/DPVA will ride up across northern UT along with far
    southeast ID and western WY which will be interacting with the
    front and the pooling of modest instability (MLCAPE ~500 J/kg)
    along it for an axis of locally heavy showers and thunderstorms.
    Much of this threat will be this morning (notably in the 12Z to 18Z
    time frame) as the height falls pivot across the region. The 00Z
    HREF guidance suggests some organized convection that will be
    capable of producing 1 to 2+ inches of rain which may include some
    brief cell-training concerns for areas near and west of the
    Wasatch front including around the Great Salt Lake. Can't rule out
    there being at least some isolated runoff/flash flooding concerns
    from these stronger clusters of convection that evolve this
    morning. Therefore, a Marginal Risk of excessive rainfall has been
    introduced, but this again is mainly for early in the period today.

    ...Central Gulf Coast...

    A low to mid-level vort center/disturbance over the northern Gulf
    is forecast to slowly advance westward today which will help to
    bring stronger low-level southeast flow and moisture into southeast
    LA and coastal MS. Sufficient low-level forcing associated with
    the vort energy coupled with at least modest instability with
    MLCAPE values of 1000 to 1500 J/kg will support there being at
    least scattered bands of convection that will develop and advance
    inland across the central Gulf Coast. Some of the 00Z HREF guidance
    and recent RRFS solutions suggest some linearly oriented
    convective bands potentially setting up that would support some
    locally enhanced rainfall totals. Given the improving PW
    environment with values of 1.75 to 2+ inches, and a convergent
    southeast low-level jet of 30+ kts, some of the rainfall rates may
    reach or exceed 2 inches/hour. The potential banded nature of the
    activity may support some localized rainfall totals going into
    early Sunday morning of 2 to 4+ inches. These rains will pose at
    least an isolated threat for flash flooding, and especially if any
    of these heavier rains were to make into the New Orleans
    metropolitan area.

    The existing Marginal Risk of excessive rainfall has been
    maintained for this period for the central Gulf Coast, but trimmed
    back to southeastern Louisiana south of Lake Pontchartrain where
    the highest rainfall coverage is likely to reside.

    ...Coastal Georgia and the Florida East Coast...

    Low-level easterly flow will persist today and tonight across the
    FL East Coast given the placement of a well-established area of
    surface high pressure farther north over the Mid-Atlantic states.
    However, the surface ridging is forecast by the models to shift
    offshore by later today which will allow for some veering and
    strengthening of the Atlantic fetch a bit farther north up into
    coastal areas of eastern GA. The latest hires model guidance
    suggests a stronger axis of low-level moisture convergence along
    with pooling of instability into coastal areas of eastern GA and
    near the SC border. Some locally focused bands of relatively shallow/warm-topped convection may attempt impact the coastal
    areas here, with some guidance suggesting locally a couple inches
    of rain being possible. Farther south, the FL East Coast should
    continue to see scattered to broken areas of showers and
    potentially a few thunderstorms. However, the activity should
    remain disorganized given a lack of deeper layer forcing and only
    modest low-level convergence along the coast. Any runoff concerns
    from heavy rainfall will tend to be highly isolated and primarily
    focused over the more urbanized areas. No changes were necessary to
    the ongoing Marginal Risk area for this region.

    Hamrick/Orrison


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Oct 05 2025 - 12Z Mon Oct 06 2025

    ...THERE IS MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE CENTRAL GULF COAST, THE SOUTHEAST COAST, AND THE CENTRAL
    PLAINS...

    20Z Update: There has been an additional lighter trend in the
    guidance for the coastal portions of Georgia, and the majority of
    heavier showers in onshore flow is expected to be across eastern
    Florida, so the new Marginal Risk area is trimmed back to=20
    Jacksonville. For the Midwest, the Marginal Risk is extended a
    little more to the northeast to include northeastern Iowa where a
    relatively narrow band of higher QPF ahead of a slow moving cold
    front is likely to be, with the potential for some convective
    training that may result in a few instances of flooding where cells
    persist the longest. All seems on track with the Marginal Risk area
    for the central Gulf Coast. /Hamrick

    Previous discussion...

    ...Central Gulf Coast...

    A weak disturbance in the western Gulf will likely continue to focus
    enhanced convergence and convection along portions of the central
    Gulf Coast into Sunday. Heaviest rainfall totals may tend to stay
    just offshore where the better instability will reside...although
    coastal convergence and instability into the immediate coastline
    should allow for some heavier cells to make it onshore. Even our
    deterministic QPF, which is a multi model blend, brings two day
    rainfall totals as high as 3-5" over far southeast LA and right
    around 3" along coastal MS and AL. Given the convective nature of
    rainfall and PWs over 2" would expect totals to locally exceed these
    amounts, and isolated instances of flash flooding are possible. The
    00z REFS probabilities of 8" is over 90% across coastal MS/AL. This
    is seemingly an under dispersed ensemble in this case, but
    interesting nonetheless, and possibly indicative of a lower
    probability worst case scenario. Either way, will need to continue
    to monitor trends, as can not rule out the need for a Slight risk
    along portions of the immediate coast.

    ...Southeast Coast...

    The model QPF signal continues to trend down across the Southeast
    coast, although onshore easterly flow, coastal convergence and PWs
    around 2" will support localized instances of heavy rainfall.
    Overall the flash flood risk appears pretty low, but an isolated
    threat can not be ruled out.

    ...Central Plains...

    Convection will likely expand in coverage Sunday evening across
    portions of northeast KS, southeast NE and southwest IA. A stalling
    frontal boundary will allow for persistent moisture convergence in
    the lower levels coupled with a divergence signature aloft. Thus it
    seems probable that rainfall will persist through much of the night,
    not moving all that much over that time. Whether we see any flash
    flood risk evolve will likely come down to the degree of instability
    present. It seems likely that we will initially have enough
    instability for deeper convection and 1"+ an hour rainfall. However
    most indications are that this instability axis will be rather
    narrow and under 1000 j/kg. Thus would expect that instability to
    get eroded fairly quickly, resulting in decreasing rainfall rates
    overnight. Nonetheless, our latest deterministic QPF has 1-2" of
    rain, with 2-3" if you include the rain that continues into Monday.
    When accounting for convection resulting in locally heavier amounts,
    and the possibility that instability ends up greater than forecast
    (which a couple models show) then a low end flash flood risk can not
    be ruled out.

    Chenard


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Oct 06 2025 - 12Z Tue Oct 07 2025

    ...THERE IS MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS EASTERN
    FLORIDA AND THE CENTRAL PLAINS...

    ...Eastern FL...

    The 00z ECMWF, AIFS and GEFS mean all suggest an increase in
    convective coverage over eastern FL on Monday compared to Sunday.
    The approach of a subtle mid level wave may help increase low level
    easterly moisture transport while also providing a bit more in the
    way of upper divergence. Isolated urban flash flooding should thus
    remain a threat into Monday, although would anticipate the risk to
    stay quite localized. There has been a clear model trend away from
    bringing heavier rainfall into SC/GA and thus the northern extent of
    the Marginal risk was cut back.

    ...Central Plains...

    Some convection will likely be ongoing Monday morning across
    portions of northeast KS, southeast NE, southwest IA and northwest
    MO. The stalled front will remain in the area through the day likely
    helping focus additional convection that should only slowly drift
    southward. Instability should increase Monday along this front,
    however this will coincide with a decrease in moisture transport and convergence along the front. Thus not really anticipating anything
    more than a very localized flash flood risk. The threat is likely a
    lower end Marginal risk, but given the slow front and two day
    rainfall totals of 2", to perhaps as high as 3-4", across this
    corridor, localized flooding can not be ruled out. We will maintain
    the inherited Marginal risk, but shrink to to better coincide with
    the axis of highest two day rainfall totals.

    Chenard


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4jDMHgQqwOWYbpAZJWTukHWDK4WEZME1PLDEja4-eUeB= dpWUnEbmT9vsC5CxqJKUcx6Q0sDi7yzewgj6cczlOXdBUVM$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4jDMHgQqwOWYbpAZJWTukHWDK4WEZME1PLDEja4-eUeB= dpWUnEbmT9vsC5CxqJKUcx6Q0sDi7yzewgj6cczln7YBLZ4$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4jDMHgQqwOWYbpAZJWTukHWDK4WEZME1PLDEja4-eUeB= dpWUnEbmT9vsC5CxqJKUcx6Q0sDi7yzewgj6cczl7xxEeDo$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sat Oct 4 20:14:10 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 042013
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    413 PM EDT Sat Oct 4 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sat Oct 04 2025 - 12Z Sun Oct 05 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE EASTERN GREAT BASIN ALONG WITH THE CENTRAL GULF COAST AND
    COASTAL GEORGIA DOWN THROUGH THE FLORIDA EAST COAST...

    ...Eastern Great Basin...

    16Z Update: Upon examination of current radar trends in northern
    Utah, it appears the mesoscale convective vortex associated with
    the mid-level upper low is still producing widespread moderate to
    heavy rainfall from the greater Salt Lake City area to near the
    Idaho border. Movement of the vortex is slowly towards the NNE, and
    recent CAM guidance suggests this will persist through about 18-20Z
    before lifting out of the region and weakening. Therefore, the
    existing Marginal Risk area will remain valid for now.

    Previous discussion...

    An amplifying upper-level trough advancing through the Great Basin
    will be driving multiple waves of low pressure northeastward along
    a frontal zone draped across the Intermountain Region. The latest
    forecast guidance supports a strengthening mid to upper-level
    closed low circulation pivoting across northern UT early this
    morning before ejecting through western WY this afternoon. Strong
    dynamics/DPVA will ride up across northern UT along with far
    southeast ID and western WY which will be interacting with the
    front and the pooling of modest instability (MLCAPE ~500 J/kg)
    along it for an axis of locally heavy showers and thunderstorms.
    Much of this threat will be this morning (notably in the 12Z to 18Z
    time frame) as the height falls pivot across the region. The 00Z
    HREF guidance suggests some organized convection that will be
    capable of producing 1 to 2+ inches of rain which may include some
    brief cell-training concerns for areas near and west of the
    Wasatch front including around the Great Salt Lake. Can't rule out
    there being at least some isolated runoff/flash flooding concerns
    from these stronger clusters of convection that evolve this
    morning. Therefore, a Marginal Risk of excessive rainfall has been
    introduced, but this again is mainly for early in the period today.

    ...Central Gulf Coast...

    A low to mid-level vort center/disturbance over the northern Gulf
    is forecast to slowly advance westward today which will help to
    bring stronger low-level southeast flow and moisture into southeast
    LA and coastal MS. Sufficient low-level forcing associated with
    the vort energy coupled with at least modest instability with
    MLCAPE values of 1000 to 1500 J/kg will support there being at
    least scattered bands of convection that will develop and advance
    inland across the central Gulf Coast. Some of the 00Z HREF guidance
    and recent RRFS solutions suggest some linearly oriented
    convective bands potentially setting up that would support some
    locally enhanced rainfall totals. Given the improving PW
    environment with values of 1.75 to 2+ inches, and a convergent
    southeast low-level jet of 30+ kts, some of the rainfall rates may
    reach or exceed 2 inches/hour. The potential banded nature of the
    activity may support some localized rainfall totals going into
    early Sunday morning of 2 to 4+ inches. These rains will pose at
    least an isolated threat for flash flooding, and especially if any
    of these heavier rains were to make into the New Orleans
    metropolitan area.

    The existing Marginal Risk of excessive rainfall has been
    maintained for this period for the central Gulf Coast, but trimmed
    back to southeastern Louisiana south of Lake Pontchartrain where
    the highest rainfall coverage is likely to reside.

    ...Coastal Georgia and the Florida East Coast...

    Low-level easterly flow will persist today and tonight across the
    FL East Coast given the placement of a well-established area of
    surface high pressure farther north over the Mid-Atlantic states.
    However, the surface ridging is forecast by the models to shift
    offshore by later today which will allow for some veering and
    strengthening of the Atlantic fetch a bit farther north up into
    coastal areas of eastern GA. The latest hires model guidance
    suggests a stronger axis of low-level moisture convergence along
    with pooling of instability into coastal areas of eastern GA and
    near the SC border. Some locally focused bands of relatively shallow/warm-topped convection may attempt impact the coastal
    areas here, with some guidance suggesting locally a couple inches
    of rain being possible. Farther south, the FL East Coast should
    continue to see scattered to broken areas of showers and
    potentially a few thunderstorms. However, the activity should
    remain disorganized given a lack of deeper layer forcing and only
    modest low-level convergence along the coast. Any runoff concerns
    from heavy rainfall will tend to be highly isolated and primarily
    focused over the more urbanized areas. No changes were necessary to
    the ongoing Marginal Risk area for this region.

    Hamrick/Orrison


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Oct 05 2025 - 12Z Mon Oct 06 2025

    ...THERE IS MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE CENTRAL GULF COAST, THE SOUTHEAST COAST, AND THE CENTRAL
    PLAINS...

    20Z Update: There has been an additional lighter trend in the
    guidance for the coastal portions of Georgia, and the majority of
    heavier showers in onshore flow is expected to be across eastern
    Florida, so the new Marginal Risk area is trimmed back to
    Jacksonville. For the Midwest, the Marginal Risk is extended a
    little more to the northeast to include northeastern Iowa where a
    relatively narrow band of higher QPF ahead of a slow moving cold
    front is likely to be, with the potential for some convective
    training that may result in a few instances of flooding where cells
    persist the longest. All seems on track with the Marginal Risk area
    for the central Gulf Coast. /Hamrick

    Previous discussion...

    ...Central Gulf Coast...

    A weak disturbance in the western Gulf will likely continue to focus
    enhanced convergence and convection along portions of the central
    Gulf Coast into Sunday. Heaviest rainfall totals may tend to stay
    just offshore where the better instability will reside...although
    coastal convergence and instability into the immediate coastline
    should allow for some heavier cells to make it onshore. Even our
    deterministic QPF, which is a multi model blend, brings two day
    rainfall totals as high as 3-5" over far southeast LA and right
    around 3" along coastal MS and AL. Given the convective nature of
    rainfall and PWs over 2" would expect totals to locally exceed these
    amounts, and isolated instances of flash flooding are possible. The
    00z REFS probabilities of 8" is over 90% across coastal MS/AL. This
    is seemingly an under dispersed ensemble in this case, but
    interesting nonetheless, and possibly indicative of a lower
    probability worst case scenario. Either way, will need to continue
    to monitor trends, as can not rule out the need for a Slight risk
    along portions of the immediate coast.

    ...Southeast Coast...

    The model QPF signal continues to trend down across the Southeast
    coast, although onshore easterly flow, coastal convergence and PWs
    around 2" will support localized instances of heavy rainfall.
    Overall the flash flood risk appears pretty low, but an isolated
    threat can not be ruled out.

    ...Central Plains...

    Convection will likely expand in coverage Sunday evening across
    portions of northeast KS, southeast NE and southwest IA. A stalling
    frontal boundary will allow for persistent moisture convergence in
    the lower levels coupled with a divergence signature aloft. Thus it
    seems probable that rainfall will persist through much of the night,
    not moving all that much over that time. Whether we see any flash
    flood risk evolve will likely come down to the degree of instability
    present. It seems likely that we will initially have enough
    instability for deeper convection and 1"+ an hour rainfall. However
    most indications are that this instability axis will be rather
    narrow and under 1000 j/kg. Thus would expect that instability to
    get eroded fairly quickly, resulting in decreasing rainfall rates
    overnight. Nonetheless, our latest deterministic QPF has 1-2" of
    rain, with 2-3" if you include the rain that continues into Monday.
    When accounting for convection resulting in locally heavier amounts,
    and the possibility that instability ends up greater than forecast
    (which a couple models show) then a low end flash flood risk can not
    be ruled out.

    Chenard


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Oct 06 2025 - 12Z Tue Oct 07 2025

    ...THERE IS MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS EASTERN
    FLORIDA AND THE CENTRAL PLAINS...

    ...Eastern Florida...

    The 00z ECMWF, AIFS and GEFS mean all suggest an increase in
    convective coverage over eastern FL on Monday compared to Sunday.
    The approach of a subtle mid level wave may help increase low level
    easterly moisture transport while also providing a bit more in the
    way of upper divergence. Isolated urban flash flooding should thus
    remain a threat into Monday, although would anticipate the risk to
    stay quite localized.=20

    ...Central Plains...

    Some convection will likely be ongoing Monday morning across
    portions of northeast KS, southeast NE, southwest IA and northwest
    MO. The stalled front will remain in the area through the day likely
    helping focus additional convection that should only slowly drift
    southward. Instability should increase Monday along this front,
    however this will coincide with a decrease in moisture transport and convergence along the front. Thus not really anticipating anything
    more than a very localized flash flood risk. The threat is likely a
    lower end Marginal risk, but given the slow front and two day
    rainfall totals of 2", to perhaps as high as 3-4", across this
    corridor, localized flooding is possible. The existing Marginal=20
    Risk has been maintained with this update.

    ...Ohio Valley...

    A Marginal Risk area has been introduced from eastern Arkansas to
    southern Indiana. Moist return flow around a surface high off the
    East Coast, in tandem with a frontal boundary slowly approaching
    from the northwest, will result in a corridor of warm air advection
    with scattered to numerous showers and thunderstorms developing.
    Dewpoints rising into the upper 60s to lower 70s, in combination
    with increasing mixed layer CAPE, will provide enough instability
    for higher rainfall rates that may result in some instances of
    flooding, mainly in the 18Z Monday-6Z Tuesday time period.=20

    Hamrick/Chenard


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7IHVf6B_SGqMHFW0BGr0Ud5FmWMltOyiVTywylngYn9Q= UwXkYnhIimhBcGU9MGJhw6xGn7bIYxHn9z0RbPZkfNeeSFM$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7IHVf6B_SGqMHFW0BGr0Ud5FmWMltOyiVTywylngYn9Q= UwXkYnhIimhBcGU9MGJhw6xGn7bIYxHn9z0RbPZkQ5ewxms$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7IHVf6B_SGqMHFW0BGr0Ud5FmWMltOyiVTywylngYn9Q= UwXkYnhIimhBcGU9MGJhw6xGn7bIYxHn9z0RbPZkBSHh0fo$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sun Oct 5 00:50:23 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 050050
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    850 PM EDT Sat Oct 4 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Sun Oct 05 2025 - 12Z Sun Oct 05 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF=20
    THE CENTRAL GULF COAST...

    Maintained a small Marginal Risk area covering far southeastern
    Louisiana and coastal Mississippi. While much of the heavier activity associated with a slow-moving wave has remained offshore into this
    evening, guidance indicates that veering flow will be enough to=20
    nudge both deeper moisture (PWs over 2 inches) and greater=20
    instability further north, raising the threat for increasing rain=20
    rates and accumulations along the coastal regions overnight. Recent
    runs of the HRRR have been consistent in showing a signal for=20
    localized heavy amounts moving onshore, while both the 18Z HREF and
    the 12Z RRFS indicate that isolated totals over 3 inches are=20
    possible.

    Pereira

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Oct 05 2025 - 12Z Mon Oct 06 2025

    ...THERE IS MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE CENTRAL GULF COAST, THE SOUTHEAST COAST, AND THE CENTRAL
    PLAINS...

    20Z Update: There has been an additional lighter trend in the
    guidance for the coastal portions of Georgia, and the majority of
    heavier showers in onshore flow is expected to be across eastern
    Florida, so the new Marginal Risk area is trimmed back to
    Jacksonville. For the Midwest, the Marginal Risk is extended a
    little more to the northeast to include northeastern Iowa where a
    relatively narrow band of higher QPF ahead of a slow moving cold
    front is likely to be, with the potential for some convective
    training that may result in a few instances of flooding where cells
    persist the longest. All seems on track with the Marginal Risk area
    for the central Gulf Coast. /Hamrick

    Previous discussion...

    ...Central Gulf Coast...

    A weak disturbance in the western Gulf will likely continue to focus
    enhanced convergence and convection along portions of the central
    Gulf Coast into Sunday. Heaviest rainfall totals may tend to stay
    just offshore where the better instability will reside...although
    coastal convergence and instability into the immediate coastline
    should allow for some heavier cells to make it onshore. Even our
    deterministic QPF, which is a multi model blend, brings two day
    rainfall totals as high as 3-5" over far southeast LA and right
    around 3" along coastal MS and AL. Given the convective nature of
    rainfall and PWs over 2" would expect totals to locally exceed these
    amounts, and isolated instances of flash flooding are possible. The
    00z REFS probabilities of 8" is over 90% across coastal MS/AL. This
    is seemingly an under dispersed ensemble in this case, but
    interesting nonetheless, and possibly indicative of a lower
    probability worst case scenario. Either way, will need to continue
    to monitor trends, as can not rule out the need for a Slight risk
    along portions of the immediate coast.

    ...Southeast Coast...

    The model QPF signal continues to trend down across the Southeast
    coast, although onshore easterly flow, coastal convergence and PWs
    around 2" will support localized instances of heavy rainfall.
    Overall the flash flood risk appears pretty low, but an isolated
    threat can not be ruled out.

    ...Central Plains...

    Convection will likely expand in coverage Sunday evening across
    portions of northeast KS, southeast NE and southwest IA. A stalling
    frontal boundary will allow for persistent moisture convergence in
    the lower levels coupled with a divergence signature aloft. Thus it
    seems probable that rainfall will persist through much of the night,
    not moving all that much over that time. Whether we see any flash
    flood risk evolve will likely come down to the degree of instability
    present. It seems likely that we will initially have enough
    instability for deeper convection and 1"+ an hour rainfall. However
    most indications are that this instability axis will be rather
    narrow and under 1000 j/kg. Thus would expect that instability to
    get eroded fairly quickly, resulting in decreasing rainfall rates
    overnight. Nonetheless, our latest deterministic QPF has 1-2" of
    rain, with 2-3" if you include the rain that continues into Monday.
    When accounting for convection resulting in locally heavier amounts,
    and the possibility that instability ends up greater than forecast
    (which a couple models show) then a low end flash flood risk can not
    be ruled out.

    Chenard


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Oct 06 2025 - 12Z Tue Oct 07 2025

    ...THERE IS MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS EASTERN
    FLORIDA AND THE CENTRAL PLAINS...

    ...Eastern Florida...

    The 00z ECMWF, AIFS and GEFS mean all suggest an increase in
    convective coverage over eastern FL on Monday compared to Sunday.
    The approach of a subtle mid level wave may help increase low level
    easterly moisture transport while also providing a bit more in the
    way of upper divergence. Isolated urban flash flooding should thus
    remain a threat into Monday, although would anticipate the risk to
    stay quite localized.

    ...Central Plains...

    Some convection will likely be ongoing Monday morning across
    portions of northeast KS, southeast NE, southwest IA and northwest
    MO. The stalled front will remain in the area through the day likely
    helping focus additional convection that should only slowly drift
    southward. Instability should increase Monday along this front,
    however this will coincide with a decrease in moisture transport and convergence along the front. Thus not really anticipating anything
    more than a very localized flash flood risk. The threat is likely a
    lower end Marginal risk, but given the slow front and two day
    rainfall totals of 2", to perhaps as high as 3-4", across this
    corridor, localized flooding is possible. The existing Marginal
    Risk has been maintained with this update.

    ...Ohio Valley...

    A Marginal Risk area has been introduced from eastern Arkansas to
    southern Indiana. Moist return flow around a surface high off the
    East Coast, in tandem with a frontal boundary slowly approaching
    from the northwest, will result in a corridor of warm air advection
    with scattered to numerous showers and thunderstorms developing.
    Dewpoints rising into the upper 60s to lower 70s, in combination
    with increasing mixed layer CAPE, will provide enough instability
    for higher rainfall rates that may result in some instances of
    flooding, mainly in the 18Z Monday-6Z Tuesday time period.

    Hamrick/Chenard


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8oPy0UYpPNvPJ6vH3Hqklmg11eP5HNEh2yww0dSR3rib= aKxxd5GgHvC9WnKRkBmmj0uySXYUwtRElPD8doK8lsGzmbE$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8oPy0UYpPNvPJ6vH3Hqklmg11eP5HNEh2yww0dSR3rib= aKxxd5GgHvC9WnKRkBmmj0uySXYUwtRElPD8doK8Tw0inpw$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8oPy0UYpPNvPJ6vH3Hqklmg11eP5HNEh2yww0dSR3rib= aKxxd5GgHvC9WnKRkBmmj0uySXYUwtRElPD8doK83O3et8I$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sun Oct 5 08:19:25 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 050819
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    419 AM EDT Sun Oct 5 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Sun Oct 05 2025 - 12Z Mon Oct 06 2025

    ...THERE IS MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE CENTRAL PLAINS AND MIDWEST ALONG WITH THE CENTRAL GULF COAST=20
    AND EASTERN FLORIDA...

    ...Central Plains/Midwest...

    In the wake of an upper-level trough and surface low transiting
    portions of the northern Plains, a cold front will be gradually
    settling southeastward today and tonight across the central Plains
    and Midwest. Showers and thunderstorms are expected to develop
    along the front by this evening across areas of central and
    northern KS up through southeast NE and through central IA. MLCAPE
    values as high as 1000 to 1500 J/kg are forecast to pool along the
    boundary along with a seasonably moist airmass characterized by PWs
    of 1.25 to 1.5+ inches. Moisture transport along the front will be
    aided by a southwest low-level jet of 30 to 40+ kts going through=20
    00Z this evening which coupled with the instability should help=20
    drive some heavier rainfall rates capable of reaching 1 to 1.5=20
    inches/hour. Going through Sunday night, the convection is expected
    to linger as at least modest right-entrance region upper jet=20
    dynamics overhead continue to interact with the front. Some post-=20
    frontal shower and thunderstorm activity is expected as a pool of=20
    elevated instability and frontogenesis lingers over the region. A=20
    consensus of the 00Z HREF guidance supports some spotty 2 to 3+=20
    inch rainfall totals in a narrow axis along the front. Antecedent=20
    conditions are quite dry, but with some localized cell-training=20
    concerns and heavier rainfall totals, there may be some isolated=20
    and mainly urbanized runoff concerns. A Marginal Risk of excessive=20
    rainfall will be maintained across the region.

    ...Central Gulf Coast...

    An elongated low to mid-level low center/trough over the northwest
    Gulf of America is expected to focus a corridor of stronger
    convergence and moisture transport across the central Gulf Coast
    region, with potential for multiple bands of very heavy showers and thunderstorms to evolve. The convection will be embedded within a=20
    deep tropical environment characterized by PWs of 2 to 2.25=20
    inches. This coupled with MLCAPE values of locally near 1500 J/kg=20
    will help favor high rainfall rates that may easily reach 2 to 3=20
    inches/hour with the stronger and more organized convective bands.=20
    The 00Z HREF guidance generally supports the heaviest rainfall=20
    totals remaining confined to the immediate Gulf Coast, however some
    localized bands of convection that will be capable of cell-
    training may be able to spread a bit farther inland including areas
    of south-central to southeast LA through far southern MS and far=20
    southern AL. Some urbanized Gulf Coast locations including New=20
    Orleans and Mobile may be impacted going through Sunday night by=20
    bands of heavy showers and thunderstorms. The latest REFS/RRFS=20
    guidance is more aggressive with the rainfall potential, but a=20
    HREF-led consensus of guidance would suggest some 2 to 4 inch=20
    rainfall totals with spotty 5+ inch amounts not out of the question
    where any cell-training occurs. The Marginal Risk area will be=20
    maintained for the time being, with isolated areas of flash=20
    flooding possible, and especially for the aforementioned urban=20
    corridors. However, should the guidance trend any wetter, a Slight=20
    Risk upgrade may be warranted for portions of the central Gulf=20
    Coast.

    ...Eastern FL...

    Moist and locally convergent low-level easterly Atlantic flow will
    continue along the FL East Coast today. There are some locally
    heavier rainfall signals showing up along the Space and Treasure
    Coasts and stretching inland somewhat as the potential once again
    for some broken bands of locally heavy showers and thunderstorms
    sets up. Where any cell-training occurs within these bands, some
    spotty rainfall totals of 2 to 4+ inches will be possible. This=20
    may result in there being a highly localized concern for some
    runoff problems. A Marginal Risk of excessive rainfall will be
    maintained at this time.

    Orrison


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Oct 06 2025 - 12Z Tue Oct 07 2025

    ...THERE IS MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF=20
    EASTERN ARKANSAS INTO THE OHIO VALLEY AND OVER EASTERN FLORIDA...

    ...TN and OH Valley...

    A Marginal risk was maintained from portions of eastern AR=20
    northeastward into southern IN. 850mb vorticity fields indicate the=20
    tropical disturbance in the Gulf is likely to lift northward on=20
    Monday brining increased PWs and the potential for areas of slow=20
    moving convection. Scattered convection is expected during the day,=20
    although the better focus for high rainfall amounts should come=20
    Monday night as the approaching cold front from the west helps=20
    increase convergence. The environment appears to favor efficient=20
    warm rain processes...with the presence of the low level vorticity=20
    from the Gulf and PWs around or above 2" (over the climatological=20
    90th percentile). Only weak instability is forecast, which could end=20
    up being a limiting factor for flash flooding. However, given the=20
    expected efficient warm rain, there should still be enough=20
    instability to get hourly rainfall rates into the 1-2" range in=20
    spots. The latest WPC deterministic QPF is 1-2" across the area,=20
    although several models indicate locally higher amounts. Given the=20 environment in place amounts locally getting into the 2-4" range=20
    seems reasonable within the Marginal risk area.=20

    Expect at least localized instances of flash flooding to be=20
    possible, especially by Monday night. There is a bit of uncertainty=20 regarding the exact rainfall axis, with the new 00z ECMWF shifting=20
    farther east into more of TN and KY. The eastern extent of the=20
    Marginal risk was extended in this direction to account for this=20 potential...although the broader model consensus still favors a=20
    slightly farther west axis, in line with the WPC QPF.

    ...Eastern FL...

    Easterly low level flow will continue to support scattered=20
    convection over eastern FL Monday into Monday night. Model guidance=20 continues to depict a modest uptick in rainfall coverage and=20
    magnitudes on Monday compared to Sunday. Localized urban flash flood=20
    impacts will remain possible.

    ...Central Plains...

    We opted to remove the Marginal risk that stretched from northeast=20
    KS into southern IA with this update. A localized flash flood risk=20
    still exists on day 1, but by Monday the areas hit hardest on day 1=20
    will be well north of the surface front. Thus most of the=20
    instability will be gone, and rainfall rates should be much lower.=20
    Thus the additional rainfall is not expected to be enough to result=20
    in flash flooding. A bit more instability may reside over MO, but=20
    this is south of the forecast rainfall axis on Sunday, and thus the=20
    rainfall Monday is not expected to be enough to overcome the drier=20 antecedent conditions here.

    Chenard


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Oct 07 2025 - 12Z Wed Oct 08 2025

    ...THERE IS MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF=20
    THE TENNESSEE AND OHIO VALLEY, OVER SOUTHEAST FLORIDA, AND PORTIONS=20
    OF NEW MEXICO...

    ...TN and OH Valley...

    A Marginal risk was maintained from TN northward into portions of OH=20
    and southwest PA. Increasing moisture ahead of an approaching cold=20
    front will likely lead to greater convective coverage and areas of=20
    heavy rainfall. The forcing and moisture will be enhanced by the=20
    same low level vorticity feature that was upstream on Monday and=20
    over the Gulf on Sunday. With PWs forecast over the climatological=20
    90th percentile do expect some warm rain processes, which should=20
    help overcome marginal instability and help produce heavy rainfall=20
    rates. Also note a well defined upper divergence signature centered=20
    over this region within the right entrance region of an upper jet.=20
    Thus the ingredients are there for widespread rainfall and at least=20
    some pockets of heavy rates.=20

    The main question for flash flood potential will be the duration of=20
    these higher rates. Overall the front looks pretty progressive,=20
    which should limit this duration. However, guidance does indicate=20
    that some training could occur for a period Tuesday before the front=20
    clears through, with the favored axis somewhere in the vicinity of=20
    central to eastern KY. While differing on location, most 00z=20
    deterministic models indicates a swath of 2-3" of rainfall, which=20
    seems reasonable given the environment in place. In fact would not=20
    be surprised if totals locally exceed 3". Overall this seems like a=20
    solid Marginal risk with localized areas of flash flooding probable.=20
    Can not rule out an embedded Slight risk upgrade on future updates=20
    pending model trends.

    The northern extent of the Marginal risk was cut out of the=20
    Northeast with this update. Instability really drops off with=20
    northern extent which will impact rainfall rate potential. These=20
    lower rates combined with the drought conditions suggest flash=20
    flooding is unlikely. We would probably need higher rates to overcome=20
    the dry soil conditions, and this seems unlikely given the currently=20 forecast instability. So it is looking more like a beneficial=20
    rainfall, with most areas around 0.75" but locally as high as 1.25"=20
    or so.

    ...Southeast FL...

    Expecting another day of scattered convection within the easterly low=20
    level flow Tuesday. Compared to previous days the threat should=20
    mostly be focused over southeast FL by this time, and a localized=20
    urban flash flood risk is possible.

    ...NM...

    A Marginal risk was maintained for portions of central and eastern=20
    NM on Tuesday. Easterly low level post frontal flow will help=20
    locally enhance convergence and upslope and scattered convection is=20
    likely to develop. With PWs around 1" and CAPE only forecast between=20 500-1000 j/kg this is likely a lower end threat. Nonetheless,=20
    locally heavier convection with high rates could result in isolated=20
    flash flooding, particularly over any more sensitive burn scars or=20
    basins.

    Chenard


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8GvKwZltCeq5dZISEPQgVenkSTOu5CSAgX3QmqpZvOjM= pDD1Jx0V9vb00eCMAPZazLpfiAgE73imvZzj3Iq1QkH4KYQ$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8GvKwZltCeq5dZISEPQgVenkSTOu5CSAgX3QmqpZvOjM= pDD1Jx0V9vb00eCMAPZazLpfiAgE73imvZzj3Iq1qbyCR_Q$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8GvKwZltCeq5dZISEPQgVenkSTOu5CSAgX3QmqpZvOjM= pDD1Jx0V9vb00eCMAPZazLpfiAgE73imvZzj3Iq1hRWOTDE$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sun Oct 5 15:38:56 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 051538
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1138 AM EDT Sun Oct 5 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sun Oct 05 2025 - 12Z Mon Oct 06 2025

    ...THERE IS MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE CENTRAL PLAINS AND MIDWEST ALONG WITH THE CENTRAL GULF COAST
    AND EASTERN FLORIDA...

    ...16Z Outlook Update...
    The ongoing ERO is on track with only minimal changes needed to
    current risk areas. Impressive QPF/totals are beginning to show on
    high-res models along a focused axis from north-central KS into
    west-central IA. However, dry antecedent conditions and lack of
    urban flash flood potential/hydrophobic ground surfaces suggests=20
    that any flash flood potential should remain isolated. Isolated 4-6
    inch rainfall totals are possible especially along the KS/NE=20
    border region and points between just north of Salina, KS to west
    of Des Moines, IA.

    Localized/marginal flash flood potential should exist for a
    couple more hours near the Savannah, GA vicinity this morning,
    although the temporal window for deep convection (and 2-3 inch/hr
    rain rates) is relatively brief and should close early this
    afternoon. Excessive runoff is possible, but coverage should=20
    remain below 5% there.

    Lastly, isolated flash flood potential exists from southeastern
    Louisiana eastward across the north-central Gulf Coast today
    through early evening. A weak low is drifting northward toward
    southern Louisiana and loosely organized, banded convection should
    develop toward the Marginal Risk area in an abundantly moist
    environment (2+ inch PW values). Storms should be slow-moving
    enough for local rain rates of 2 inches/hr to occur on an
    isolated/sporadic basis. This scenario should result in at least
    isolated instances of excessive runoff through the afternoon and
    evening.

    See the previous discussion below for more information.

    Cook

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Central Plains/Midwest...

    In the wake of an upper-level trough and surface low transiting
    portions of the northern Plains, a cold front will be gradually
    settling southeastward today and tonight across the central Plains
    and Midwest. Showers and thunderstorms are expected to develop
    along the front by this evening across areas of central and
    northern KS up through southeast NE and through central IA. MLCAPE
    values as high as 1000 to 1500 J/kg are forecast to pool along the
    boundary along with a seasonably moist airmass characterized by PWs
    of 1.25 to 1.5+ inches. Moisture transport along the front will be
    aided by a southwest low-level jet of 30 to 40+ kts going through
    00Z this evening which coupled with the instability should help
    drive some heavier rainfall rates capable of reaching 1 to 1.5
    inches/hour. Going through Sunday night, the convection is expected
    to linger as at least modest right-entrance region upper jet
    dynamics overhead continue to interact with the front. Some post-
    frontal shower and thunderstorm activity is expected as a pool of
    elevated instability and frontogenesis lingers over the region. A
    consensus of the 00Z HREF guidance supports some spotty 2 to 3+
    inch rainfall totals in a narrow axis along the front. Antecedent
    conditions are quite dry, but with some localized cell-training
    concerns and heavier rainfall totals, there may be some isolated
    and mainly urbanized runoff concerns. A Marginal Risk of excessive
    rainfall will be maintained across the region.

    ...Central Gulf Coast...

    An elongated low to mid-level low center/trough over the northwest
    Gulf of America is expected to focus a corridor of stronger
    convergence and moisture transport across the central Gulf Coast
    region, with potential for multiple bands of very heavy showers and thunderstorms to evolve. The convection will be embedded within a
    deep tropical environment characterized by PWs of 2 to 2.25
    inches. This coupled with MLCAPE values of locally near 1500 J/kg
    will help favor high rainfall rates that may easily reach 2 to 3
    inches/hour with the stronger and more organized convective bands.
    The 00Z HREF guidance generally supports the heaviest rainfall
    totals remaining confined to the immediate Gulf Coast, however some
    localized bands of convection that will be capable of cell-
    training may be able to spread a bit farther inland including areas
    of south-central to southeast LA through far southern MS and far
    southern AL. Some urbanized Gulf Coast locations including New
    Orleans and Mobile may be impacted going through Sunday night by
    bands of heavy showers and thunderstorms. The latest REFS/RRFS
    guidance is more aggressive with the rainfall potential, but a
    HREF-led consensus of guidance would suggest some 2 to 4 inch
    rainfall totals with spotty 5+ inch amounts not out of the question
    where any cell-training occurs. The Marginal Risk area will be
    maintained for the time being, with isolated areas of flash
    flooding possible, and especially for the aforementioned urban
    corridors. However, should the guidance trend any wetter, a Slight
    Risk upgrade may be warranted for portions of the central Gulf
    Coast.

    ...Eastern FL...

    Moist and locally convergent low-level easterly Atlantic flow will
    continue along the FL East Coast today. There are some locally
    heavier rainfall signals showing up along the Space and Treasure
    Coasts and stretching inland somewhat as the potential once again
    for some broken bands of locally heavy showers and thunderstorms
    sets up. Where any cell-training occurs within these bands, some
    spotty rainfall totals of 2 to 4+ inches will be possible. This
    may result in there being a highly localized concern for some
    runoff problems. A Marginal Risk of excessive rainfall will be
    maintained at this time.

    Orrison


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Oct 06 2025 - 12Z Tue Oct 07 2025

    ...THERE IS MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN ARKANSAS INTO THE OHIO VALLEY AND OVER EASTERN FLORIDA...

    ...TN and OH Valley...

    A Marginal risk was maintained from portions of eastern AR
    northeastward into southern IN. 850mb vorticity fields indicate the
    tropical disturbance in the Gulf is likely to lift northward on
    Monday brining increased PWs and the potential for areas of slow
    moving convection. Scattered convection is expected during the day,
    although the better focus for high rainfall amounts should come
    Monday night as the approaching cold front from the west helps
    increase convergence. The environment appears to favor efficient
    warm rain processes...with the presence of the low level vorticity
    from the Gulf and PWs around or above 2" (over the climatological
    90th percentile). Only weak instability is forecast, which could end
    up being a limiting factor for flash flooding. However, given the
    expected efficient warm rain, there should still be enough
    instability to get hourly rainfall rates into the 1-2" range in
    spots. The latest WPC deterministic QPF is 1-2" across the area,
    although several models indicate locally higher amounts. Given the
    environment in place amounts locally getting into the 2-4" range
    seems reasonable within the Marginal risk area.

    Expect at least localized instances of flash flooding to be
    possible, especially by Monday night. There is a bit of uncertainty
    regarding the exact rainfall axis, with the new 00z ECMWF shifting
    farther east into more of TN and KY. The eastern extent of the
    Marginal risk was extended in this direction to account for this potential...although the broader model consensus still favors a
    slightly farther west axis, in line with the WPC QPF.

    ...Eastern FL...

    Easterly low level flow will continue to support scattered
    convection over eastern FL Monday into Monday night. Model guidance
    continues to depict a modest uptick in rainfall coverage and
    magnitudes on Monday compared to Sunday. Localized urban flash flood
    impacts will remain possible.

    ...Central Plains...

    We opted to remove the Marginal risk that stretched from northeast
    KS into southern IA with this update. A localized flash flood risk
    still exists on day 1, but by Monday the areas hit hardest on day 1
    will be well north of the surface front. Thus most of the
    instability will be gone, and rainfall rates should be much lower.
    Thus the additional rainfall is not expected to be enough to result
    in flash flooding. A bit more instability may reside over MO, but
    this is south of the forecast rainfall axis on Sunday, and thus the
    rainfall Monday is not expected to be enough to overcome the drier
    antecedent conditions here.

    Chenard


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Oct 07 2025 - 12Z Wed Oct 08 2025

    ...THERE IS MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE TENNESSEE AND OHIO VALLEY, OVER SOUTHEAST FLORIDA, AND PORTIONS
    OF NEW MEXICO...

    ...TN and OH Valley...

    A Marginal risk was maintained from TN northward into portions of OH
    and southwest PA. Increasing moisture ahead of an approaching cold
    front will likely lead to greater convective coverage and areas of
    heavy rainfall. The forcing and moisture will be enhanced by the
    same low level vorticity feature that was upstream on Monday and
    over the Gulf on Sunday. With PWs forecast over the climatological
    90th percentile do expect some warm rain processes, which should
    help overcome marginal instability and help produce heavy rainfall
    rates. Also note a well defined upper divergence signature centered
    over this region within the right entrance region of an upper jet.
    Thus the ingredients are there for widespread rainfall and at least
    some pockets of heavy rates.

    The main question for flash flood potential will be the duration of
    these higher rates. Overall the front looks pretty progressive,
    which should limit this duration. However, guidance does indicate
    that some training could occur for a period Tuesday before the front
    clears through, with the favored axis somewhere in the vicinity of
    central to eastern KY. While differing on location, most 00z
    deterministic models indicates a swath of 2-3" of rainfall, which
    seems reasonable given the environment in place. In fact would not
    be surprised if totals locally exceed 3". Overall this seems like a
    solid Marginal risk with localized areas of flash flooding probable.
    Can not rule out an embedded Slight risk upgrade on future updates
    pending model trends.

    The northern extent of the Marginal risk was cut out of the
    Northeast with this update. Instability really drops off with
    northern extent which will impact rainfall rate potential. These
    lower rates combined with the drought conditions suggest flash
    flooding is unlikely. We would probably need higher rates to overcome
    the dry soil conditions, and this seems unlikely given the currently
    forecast instability. So it is looking more like a beneficial
    rainfall, with most areas around 0.75" but locally as high as 1.25"
    or so.

    ...Southeast FL...

    Expecting another day of scattered convection within the easterly low
    level flow Tuesday. Compared to previous days the threat should
    mostly be focused over southeast FL by this time, and a localized
    urban flash flood risk is possible.

    ...NM...

    A Marginal risk was maintained for portions of central and eastern
    NM on Tuesday. Easterly low level post frontal flow will help
    locally enhance convergence and upslope and scattered convection is
    likely to develop. With PWs around 1" and CAPE only forecast between
    500-1000 j/kg this is likely a lower end threat. Nonetheless,
    locally heavier convection with high rates could result in isolated
    flash flooding, particularly over any more sensitive burn scars or
    basins.

    Chenard


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_9lhZdipesCCQRyq3tylsHawmDLtgay6msNrhgkNYJmJ= UR9jI3e1mKUCyaqdl1S9ulbqa5b15iZ7RHduvw996Wb7xqk$=20
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    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_9lhZdipesCCQRyq3tylsHawmDLtgay6msNrhgkNYJmJ= UR9jI3e1mKUCyaqdl1S9ulbqa5b15iZ7RHduvw99eo3L4ss$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 051933
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    333 PM EDT Sun Oct 5 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sun Oct 05 2025 - 12Z Mon Oct 06 2025

    ...THERE IS MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE CENTRAL PLAINS AND MIDWEST ALONG WITH THE CENTRAL GULF COAST
    AND EASTERN FLORIDA...

    ...16Z Outlook Update...
    The ongoing ERO is on track with only minimal changes needed to
    current risk areas. Impressive QPF/totals are beginning to show on
    high-res models along a focused axis from north-central KS into
    west-central IA. However, dry antecedent conditions and lack of
    urban flash flood potential/hydrophobic ground surfaces suggests
    that any flash flood potential should remain isolated. Isolated 4-6
    inch rainfall totals are possible especially along the KS/NE
    border region and points between just north of Salina, KS to west
    of Des Moines, IA.

    Localized/marginal flash flood potential should exist for a
    couple more hours near the Savannah, GA vicinity this morning,
    although the temporal window for deep convection (and 2-3 inch/hr
    rain rates) is relatively brief and should close early this
    afternoon. Excessive runoff is possible, but coverage should
    remain below 5% there.

    Lastly, isolated flash flood potential exists from southeastern
    Louisiana eastward across the north-central Gulf Coast today
    through early evening. A weak low is drifting northward toward
    southern Louisiana and loosely organized, banded convection should
    develop toward the Marginal Risk area in an abundantly moist
    environment (2+ inch PW values). Storms should be slow-moving
    enough for local rain rates of 2 inches/hr to occur on an
    isolated/sporadic basis. This scenario should result in at least
    isolated instances of excessive runoff through the afternoon and
    evening.

    See the previous discussion below for more information.

    Cook

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Central Plains/Midwest...

    In the wake of an upper-level trough and surface low transiting
    portions of the northern Plains, a cold front will be gradually
    settling southeastward today and tonight across the central Plains
    and Midwest. Showers and thunderstorms are expected to develop
    along the front by this evening across areas of central and
    northern KS up through southeast NE and through central IA. MLCAPE
    values as high as 1000 to 1500 J/kg are forecast to pool along the
    boundary along with a seasonably moist airmass characterized by PWs
    of 1.25 to 1.5+ inches. Moisture transport along the front will be
    aided by a southwest low-level jet of 30 to 40+ kts going through
    00Z this evening which coupled with the instability should help
    drive some heavier rainfall rates capable of reaching 1 to 1.5
    inches/hour. Going through Sunday night, the convection is expected
    to linger as at least modest right-entrance region upper jet
    dynamics overhead continue to interact with the front. Some post-
    frontal shower and thunderstorm activity is expected as a pool of
    elevated instability and frontogenesis lingers over the region. A
    consensus of the 00Z HREF guidance supports some spotty 2 to 3+
    inch rainfall totals in a narrow axis along the front. Antecedent
    conditions are quite dry, but with some localized cell-training
    concerns and heavier rainfall totals, there may be some isolated
    and mainly urbanized runoff concerns. A Marginal Risk of excessive
    rainfall will be maintained across the region.

    ...Central Gulf Coast...

    An elongated low to mid-level low center/trough over the northwest
    Gulf of America is expected to focus a corridor of stronger
    convergence and moisture transport across the central Gulf Coast
    region, with potential for multiple bands of very heavy showers and thunderstorms to evolve. The convection will be embedded within a
    deep tropical environment characterized by PWs of 2 to 2.25
    inches. This coupled with MLCAPE values of locally near 1500 J/kg
    will help favor high rainfall rates that may easily reach 2 to 3
    inches/hour with the stronger and more organized convective bands.
    The 00Z HREF guidance generally supports the heaviest rainfall
    totals remaining confined to the immediate Gulf Coast, however some
    localized bands of convection that will be capable of cell-
    training may be able to spread a bit farther inland including areas
    of south-central to southeast LA through far southern MS and far
    southern AL. Some urbanized Gulf Coast locations including New
    Orleans and Mobile may be impacted going through Sunday night by
    bands of heavy showers and thunderstorms. The latest REFS/RRFS
    guidance is more aggressive with the rainfall potential, but a
    HREF-led consensus of guidance would suggest some 2 to 4 inch
    rainfall totals with spotty 5+ inch amounts not out of the question
    where any cell-training occurs. The Marginal Risk area will be
    maintained for the time being, with isolated areas of flash
    flooding possible, and especially for the aforementioned urban
    corridors. However, should the guidance trend any wetter, a Slight
    Risk upgrade may be warranted for portions of the central Gulf
    Coast.

    ...Eastern FL...

    Moist and locally convergent low-level easterly Atlantic flow will
    continue along the FL East Coast today. There are some locally
    heavier rainfall signals showing up along the Space and Treasure
    Coasts and stretching inland somewhat as the potential once again
    for some broken bands of locally heavy showers and thunderstorms
    sets up. Where any cell-training occurs within these bands, some
    spotty rainfall totals of 2 to 4+ inches will be possible. This
    may result in there being a highly localized concern for some
    runoff problems. A Marginal Risk of excessive rainfall will be
    maintained at this time.

    Orrison


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Oct 06 2025 - 12Z Tue Oct 07 2025

    ...THERE IS SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF=20
    THE MID-SOUTH AND WESTERN OHIO VALLEY...

    ...TN and OH Valley...

    ...1900 UTC Update...

    Based on the latest (12Z) CAM guidance, including the full HREF
    probabilistic suite, per collaboration with the WFOs have hoisted a
    Slight Risk area across far northeast AR, southeast MO, western
    TN-KY, southern IL, and southwest IN (essentially the confluence=20
    of the OH and MS River basins). As noted from the previous=20
    discussion (below), warm-rain processes will be fairly optimal=20
    given the abundant low-mid layer moisture associated with the=20
    subtropical shortwave (TPWs approaching 2.00", or 2 standard=20
    deviations above the norm, along with WBZ levels aoa 13.5kft).=20
    Therefore despite not much deep-layer instability (MUCAPEs 500-1000
    J/Kg), rainfall rates will nevertheless be highly efficient. HREF=20 neighborhood probabilities of 24hr rainfall amounts exceeding 3 and
    5 inches are highest within this Slight Risk area (60-70% and=20
    40-50% respectively).=20

    Hurley

    ...Previous Discussion...

    850mb vorticity fields indicate the tropical disturbance in the=20
    Gulf is likely to lift northward on Monday brining increased PWs=20
    and the potential for areas of slow moving convection. Scattered=20
    convection is expected during the day, although the better focus=20
    for high rainfall amounts should come Monday night as the=20
    approaching cold front from the west helps increase convergence.=20
    The environment appears to favor efficient warm rain=20
    processes...with the presence of the low level vorticity from the=20
    Gulf and PWs around or above 2" (over the climatological 90th=20
    percentile). Only weak instability is forecast, which could end up=20
    being a limiting factor for flash flooding. However, given the=20
    expected efficient warm rain, there should still be enough=20
    instability to get hourly rainfall rates into the 1-2" range in=20
    spots. The latest WPC deterministic QPF is 1-2" across the area,=20
    although several models indicate locally higher amounts. Given the=20 environment in place amounts locally getting into the 2-4" range=20
    seems reasonable within the Marginal risk area.

    Expect at least localized instances of flash flooding to be
    possible, especially by Monday night. There is a bit of uncertainty
    regarding the exact rainfall axis, with the new 00z ECMWF shifting
    farther east into more of TN and KY. The eastern extent of the
    Marginal risk was extended in this direction to account for this potential...although the broader model consensus still favors a
    slightly farther west axis, in line with the WPC QPF.

    ...Eastern FL...

    Easterly low level flow will continue to support scattered
    convection over eastern FL Monday into Monday night. Model guidance
    continues to depict a modest uptick in rainfall coverage and
    magnitudes on Monday compared to Sunday. Localized urban flash flood
    impacts will remain possible.

    ...Central Plains...

    We opted to remove the Marginal risk that stretched from northeast
    KS into southern IA with this update. A localized flash flood risk
    still exists on day 1, but by Monday the areas hit hardest on day 1
    will be well north of the surface front. Thus most of the
    instability will be gone, and rainfall rates should be much lower.
    Thus the additional rainfall is not expected to be enough to result
    in flash flooding. A bit more instability may reside over MO, but
    this is south of the forecast rainfall axis on Sunday, and thus the
    rainfall Monday is not expected to be enough to overcome the drier
    antecedent conditions here.

    Chenard


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Oct 07 2025 - 12Z Wed Oct 08 2025

    ...THERE IS SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS NORTHERN
    TENNESSEE AND MUCH OF KENTUCKY INTO WESTERN PORTIONS OF WEST
    VIRGINIA...

    ...TN and OH Valley...

    ...1900 UTC Update...

    Only minor tweaks were made to the Marginal Risk area, however as
    with the Day 2 ERO, we've added a low-end Slight Risk area on Day 3
    from portions of northern TN and much of KY east-northeast into
    western WV. This again follows along with the subtropical wave and
    TPW plume that will be absorbed by the longwave (synoptic scale)=20
    trough and associated surface front. Just as with Day 2, the deep-=20
    layer instability isn't overly robust (MUCAPEs 500-1000 J/Kg tops),
    while at the same time the flattening mid-upper trough across the=20
    area (increasing deep-layer westerly flow) should allow for more a=20
    faster W to E progression of the shortwave and surface front later=20
    in the period (late Tue-Tue night). Still, anomalous deep-layer=20
    moisture (warm rain processes as WBZ levels remain over 12KFT) will
    allow for rather efficient short-term rainfall rates.=20

    Hurley

    ...Previous Discussion...

    Increasing moisture ahead of an approaching cold front
    will likely lead to greater convective coverage and areas of heavy
    rainfall. The forcing and moisture will be enhanced by the same=20
    low level vorticity feature that was upstream on Monday and over=20
    the Gulf on Sunday. With PWs forecast over the climatological 90th=20 percentile do expect some warm rain processes, which should help=20
    overcome marginal instability and help produce heavy rainfall=20
    rates. Also note a well defined upper divergence signature centered
    over this region within the right entrance region of an upper jet.
    Thus the ingredients are there for widespread rainfall and at=20
    least some pockets of heavy rates.

    The main question for flash flood potential will be the duration of
    these higher rates. Overall the front looks pretty progressive,
    which should limit this duration. However, guidance does indicate
    that some training could occur for a period Tuesday before the front
    clears through, with the favored axis somewhere in the vicinity of
    central to eastern KY. While differing on location, most 00z
    deterministic models indicates a swath of 2-3" of rainfall, which
    seems reasonable given the environment in place. In fact would not
    be surprised if totals locally exceed 3". Overall this seems like a
    solid Marginal risk with localized areas of flash flooding probable.
    Can not rule out an embedded Slight risk upgrade on future updates
    pending model trends.

    The northern extent of the Marginal risk was cut out of the
    Northeast with this update. Instability really drops off with
    northern extent which will impact rainfall rate potential. These
    lower rates combined with the drought conditions suggest flash
    flooding is unlikely. We would probably need higher rates to overcome
    the dry soil conditions, and this seems unlikely given the currently
    forecast instability. So it is looking more like a beneficial
    rainfall, with most areas around 0.75" but locally as high as 1.25"
    or so.

    ...Southeast FL...

    Expecting another day of scattered convection within the easterly low
    level flow Tuesday. Compared to previous days the threat should
    mostly be focused over southeast FL by this time, and a localized
    urban flash flood risk is possible.

    ...NM...

    A Marginal risk was maintained for portions of central and eastern
    NM on Tuesday. Easterly low level post frontal flow will help
    locally enhance convergence and upslope and scattered convection is
    likely to develop. With PWs around 1" and CAPE only forecast between
    500-1000 j/kg this is likely a lower end threat. Nonetheless,
    locally heavier convection with high rates could result in isolated
    flash flooding, particularly over any more sensitive burn scars or
    basins.

    Chenard


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-4jOVPqDRtzQd4mGBuzL64YLpmeMmCOg1791tFPDn_Ar= xddDi9fcanDksSoayd2lLkUNX1k6SCa472Zu3VehwHNTzl4$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-4jOVPqDRtzQd4mGBuzL64YLpmeMmCOg1791tFPDn_Ar= xddDi9fcanDksSoayd2lLkUNX1k6SCa472Zu3VehZh7iAFA$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-4jOVPqDRtzQd4mGBuzL64YLpmeMmCOg1791tFPDn_Ar= xddDi9fcanDksSoayd2lLkUNX1k6SCa472Zu3VehmN1VoIc$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Mon Oct 6 00:51:03 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 060050
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    850 PM EDT Sun Oct 5 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Mon Oct 06 2025 - 12Z Mon Oct 06 2025

    ...THERE IS MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE CENTRAL PLAINS AND MIDWEST ALONG WITH THE CENTRAL GULF COAST
    AND EASTERN FLORIDA...

    01Z Update...
    Latest guidance indicates that at least a localized threat for
    additional heavy rainfall will persist tonight within each of the=20
    outlook areas, which may lead to isolated runoff concerns.=20
    Therefore, each area was maintained, with minor adjustments.=20

    The broken line of showers and storms that has developed along the
    cold front from western Kansas northeastward into the upper=20
    Mississippi Valley shows the greatest potential for scattered heavy
    amounts. PWs of 1.25-1.5 inches. along with MUCAPEs above 1000=20
    J/kg have been supporting spotty rainfall rates up to ~1 inch/hr=20
    from western Kansas though southeastern Nebraska into southwestern=20
    Iowa. Recent runs of the HRRR along with the HREF and RRFS indicate
    some isolated totals of 2-3 inches are possible along this=20
    corridor tonight.

    Pereira


    Previous Discussion...
    ...Central Plains/Midwest...

    In the wake of an upper-level trough and surface low transiting
    portions of the northern Plains, a cold front will be gradually
    settling southeastward today and tonight across the central Plains
    and Midwest. Showers and thunderstorms are expected to develop
    along the front by this evening across areas of central and
    northern KS up through southeast NE and through central IA. MLCAPE
    values as high as 1000 to 1500 J/kg are forecast to pool along the
    boundary along with a seasonably moist airmass characterized by PWs
    of 1.25 to 1.5+ inches. Moisture transport along the front will be
    aided by a southwest low-level jet of 30 to 40+ kts going through
    00Z this evening which coupled with the instability should help
    drive some heavier rainfall rates capable of reaching 1 to 1.5
    inches/hour. Going through Sunday night, the convection is expected
    to linger as at least modest right-entrance region upper jet
    dynamics overhead continue to interact with the front. Some post-
    frontal shower and thunderstorm activity is expected as a pool of
    elevated instability and frontogenesis lingers over the region. A
    consensus of the 00Z HREF guidance supports some spotty 2 to 3+
    inch rainfall totals in a narrow axis along the front. Antecedent
    conditions are quite dry, but with some localized cell-training
    concerns and heavier rainfall totals, there may be some isolated
    and mainly urbanized runoff concerns. A Marginal Risk of excessive
    rainfall will be maintained across the region.

    ...Central Gulf Coast...

    An elongated low to mid-level low center/trough over the northwest
    Gulf of America is expected to focus a corridor of stronger
    convergence and moisture transport across the central Gulf Coast
    region, with potential for multiple bands of very heavy showers and thunderstorms to evolve. The convection will be embedded within a
    deep tropical environment characterized by PWs of 2 to 2.25
    inches. This coupled with MLCAPE values of locally near 1500 J/kg
    will help favor high rainfall rates that may easily reach 2 to 3
    inches/hour with the stronger and more organized convective bands.
    The 00Z HREF guidance generally supports the heaviest rainfall
    totals remaining confined to the immediate Gulf Coast, however some
    localized bands of convection that will be capable of cell-
    training may be able to spread a bit farther inland including areas
    of south-central to southeast LA through far southern MS and far
    southern AL. Some urbanized Gulf Coast locations including New
    Orleans and Mobile may be impacted going through Sunday night by
    bands of heavy showers and thunderstorms. The latest REFS/RRFS
    guidance is more aggressive with the rainfall potential, but a
    HREF-led consensus of guidance would suggest some 2 to 4 inch
    rainfall totals with spotty 5+ inch amounts not out of the question
    where any cell-training occurs. The Marginal Risk area will be
    maintained for the time being, with isolated areas of flash
    flooding possible, and especially for the aforementioned urban
    corridors. However, should the guidance trend any wetter, a Slight
    Risk upgrade may be warranted for portions of the central Gulf
    Coast.

    ...Eastern FL...

    Moist and locally convergent low-level easterly Atlantic flow will
    continue along the FL East Coast today. There are some locally
    heavier rainfall signals showing up along the Space and Treasure
    Coasts and stretching inland somewhat as the potential once again
    for some broken bands of locally heavy showers and thunderstorms
    sets up. Where any cell-training occurs within these bands, some
    spotty rainfall totals of 2 to 4+ inches will be possible. This
    may result in there being a highly localized concern for some
    runoff problems. A Marginal Risk of excessive rainfall will be
    maintained at this time.

    Orrison


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Oct 06 2025 - 12Z Tue Oct 07 2025

    ...THERE IS SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE MID-SOUTH AND WESTERN OHIO VALLEY...

    ...TN and OH Valley...

    ...1900 UTC Update...

    Based on the latest (12Z) CAM guidance, including the full HREF
    probabilistic suite, per collaboration with the WFOs have hoisted a
    Slight Risk area across far northeast AR, southeast MO, western
    TN-KY, southern IL, and southwest IN (essentially the confluence
    of the OH and MS River basins). As noted from the previous
    discussion (below), warm-rain processes will be fairly optimal
    given the abundant low-mid layer moisture associated with the
    subtropical shortwave (TPWs approaching 2.00", or 2 standard
    deviations above the norm, along with WBZ levels aoa 13.5kft).
    Therefore despite not much deep-layer instability (MUCAPEs 500-1000
    J/Kg), rainfall rates will nevertheless be highly efficient. HREF
    neighborhood probabilities of 24hr rainfall amounts exceeding 3 and
    5 inches are highest within this Slight Risk area (60-70% and
    40-50% respectively).

    Hurley

    ...Previous Discussion...

    850mb vorticity fields indicate the tropical disturbance in the
    Gulf is likely to lift northward on Monday brining increased PWs
    and the potential for areas of slow moving convection. Scattered
    convection is expected during the day, although the better focus
    for high rainfall amounts should come Monday night as the
    approaching cold front from the west helps increase convergence.
    The environment appears to favor efficient warm rain
    processes...with the presence of the low level vorticity from the
    Gulf and PWs around or above 2" (over the climatological 90th
    percentile). Only weak instability is forecast, which could end up
    being a limiting factor for flash flooding. However, given the
    expected efficient warm rain, there should still be enough
    instability to get hourly rainfall rates into the 1-2" range in
    spots. The latest WPC deterministic QPF is 1-2" across the area,
    although several models indicate locally higher amounts. Given the
    environment in place amounts locally getting into the 2-4" range
    seems reasonable within the Marginal risk area.

    Expect at least localized instances of flash flooding to be
    possible, especially by Monday night. There is a bit of uncertainty
    regarding the exact rainfall axis, with the new 00z ECMWF shifting
    farther east into more of TN and KY. The eastern extent of the
    Marginal risk was extended in this direction to account for this potential...although the broader model consensus still favors a
    slightly farther west axis, in line with the WPC QPF.

    ...Eastern FL...

    Easterly low level flow will continue to support scattered
    convection over eastern FL Monday into Monday night. Model guidance
    continues to depict a modest uptick in rainfall coverage and
    magnitudes on Monday compared to Sunday. Localized urban flash flood
    impacts will remain possible.

    ...Central Plains...

    We opted to remove the Marginal risk that stretched from northeast
    KS into southern IA with this update. A localized flash flood risk
    still exists on day 1, but by Monday the areas hit hardest on day 1
    will be well north of the surface front. Thus most of the
    instability will be gone, and rainfall rates should be much lower.
    Thus the additional rainfall is not expected to be enough to result
    in flash flooding. A bit more instability may reside over MO, but
    this is south of the forecast rainfall axis on Sunday, and thus the
    rainfall Monday is not expected to be enough to overcome the drier
    antecedent conditions here.

    Chenard


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Oct 07 2025 - 12Z Wed Oct 08 2025

    ...THERE IS SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS NORTHERN
    TENNESSEE AND MUCH OF KENTUCKY INTO WESTERN PORTIONS OF WEST
    VIRGINIA...

    ...TN and OH Valley...

    ...1900 UTC Update...

    Only minor tweaks were made to the Marginal Risk area, however as
    with the Day 2 ERO, we've added a low-end Slight Risk area on Day 3
    from portions of northern TN and much of KY east-northeast into
    western WV. This again follows along with the subtropical wave and
    TPW plume that will be absorbed by the longwave (synoptic scale)
    trough and associated surface front. Just as with Day 2, the deep-
    layer instability isn't overly robust (MUCAPEs 500-1000 J/Kg tops),
    while at the same time the flattening mid-upper trough across the
    area (increasing deep-layer westerly flow) should allow for more a
    faster W to E progression of the shortwave and surface front later
    in the period (late Tue-Tue night). Still, anomalous deep-layer
    moisture (warm rain processes as WBZ levels remain over 12KFT) will
    allow for rather efficient short-term rainfall rates.

    Hurley

    ...Previous Discussion...

    Increasing moisture ahead of an approaching cold front
    will likely lead to greater convective coverage and areas of heavy
    rainfall. The forcing and moisture will be enhanced by the same
    low level vorticity feature that was upstream on Monday and over
    the Gulf on Sunday. With PWs forecast over the climatological 90th
    percentile do expect some warm rain processes, which should help
    overcome marginal instability and help produce heavy rainfall
    rates. Also note a well defined upper divergence signature centered
    over this region within the right entrance region of an upper jet.
    Thus the ingredients are there for widespread rainfall and at
    least some pockets of heavy rates.

    The main question for flash flood potential will be the duration of
    these higher rates. Overall the front looks pretty progressive,
    which should limit this duration. However, guidance does indicate
    that some training could occur for a period Tuesday before the front
    clears through, with the favored axis somewhere in the vicinity of
    central to eastern KY. While differing on location, most 00z
    deterministic models indicates a swath of 2-3" of rainfall, which
    seems reasonable given the environment in place. In fact would not
    be surprised if totals locally exceed 3". Overall this seems like a
    solid Marginal risk with localized areas of flash flooding probable.
    Can not rule out an embedded Slight risk upgrade on future updates
    pending model trends.

    The northern extent of the Marginal risk was cut out of the
    Northeast with this update. Instability really drops off with
    northern extent which will impact rainfall rate potential. These
    lower rates combined with the drought conditions suggest flash
    flooding is unlikely. We would probably need higher rates to overcome
    the dry soil conditions, and this seems unlikely given the currently
    forecast instability. So it is looking more like a beneficial
    rainfall, with most areas around 0.75" but locally as high as 1.25"
    or so.

    ...Southeast FL...

    Expecting another day of scattered convection within the easterly low
    level flow Tuesday. Compared to previous days the threat should
    mostly be focused over southeast FL by this time, and a localized
    urban flash flood risk is possible.

    ...NM...

    A Marginal risk was maintained for portions of central and eastern
    NM on Tuesday. Easterly low level post frontal flow will help
    locally enhance convergence and upslope and scattered convection is
    likely to develop. With PWs around 1" and CAPE only forecast between
    500-1000 j/kg this is likely a lower end threat. Nonetheless,
    locally heavier convection with high rates could result in isolated
    flash flooding, particularly over any more sensitive burn scars or
    basins.

    Chenard


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4rTPxeEY5RSMIzcXvzHW9OgJjW5UEDtyiwHbULsJ2PR1= dN9shQI0O2IUoQ8ZcfqnPNorSPu1iXIq3HXibU01ATRPeT0$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4rTPxeEY5RSMIzcXvzHW9OgJjW5UEDtyiwHbULsJ2PR1= dN9shQI0O2IUoQ8ZcfqnPNorSPu1iXIq3HXibU011NgFZP4$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4rTPxeEY5RSMIzcXvzHW9OgJjW5UEDtyiwHbULsJ2PR1= dN9shQI0O2IUoQ8ZcfqnPNorSPu1iXIq3HXibU01Um6lnc8$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Mon Oct 6 08:19:45 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 060819
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    419 AM EDT Mon Oct 6 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Mon Oct 06 2025 - 12Z Tue Oct 07 2025

    ...THERE IS SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE MID-SOUTH AND LOWER OHIO VALLEY...

    ...Mid-South/Lower Ohio Valley and the Central Gulf Coast...

    An elongated low to mid-level vort center near the central Gulf
    Coast will lift northward into the Mid-South today and gradually
    stretch northeastward into portions of the Lower OH Valley by later tonight through early Tuesday morning. Increasingly convergent flow around
    the eastern flank of the vort energy and an associated weak surface
    low/trough axis coupled with enhancing moisture transport aided by
    a 30 to 40 kt low-level jet will support broken bands of heavy
    showers and thunderstorms. Modest instability with MLCAPE values of
    500 to 1000 J/kg will be in place with the aid of diurnal heating,
    but the vertical column will be quite moist with CIRA-ALPW data
    showing the aforementioned vort energy embedded within a rather
    deep tropical environment characterized by PWs of 2 to 2.25 inches.

    Relatively warm-topped convection with high WBZ levels will support
    very efficient rainfall processes for high rainfall rates as this
    energy lifts north over the next 12 to 24 hours. The latest 00Z
    HREF guidance supports broken convection with rainfall rates as
    high as 1.5 to 2.5 inches/hour, and some concerns for some cell-=20
    training that may foster some localized totals of 3 to 5 inches.=20
    The more concentrated areas of convection are most likely to focus=20
    across areas of eastern AR/western TN northeastward up into western
    KY and southern IN going through Monday night and Tuesday morning
    where the axis of stronger low-level convergence in conjunction
    with some modest upper-level jet forcing/divergence is forecast to
    become aligned. A Slight Risk of excessive rainfall will be=20
    maintained for this period, with some southward expansion of it=20
    depicted down across eastern AR compared to continuity given the
    latest multi-model hires consensus. The setup will be conducive=20
    for there being isolated to scattered areas of flash flooding which
    will include urbanized flooding concerns.

    Meanwhile, very moist and convergent low-level southerly flow off=20
    the Gulf coupled with a moderately unstable boundary layer will=20
    favor a threat for additional small-scale bands of convection to=20
    impact parts of eastern LA along with coastal areas of southern=20
    MS, southwest AL and into the western FL Panhandle. PWs running=20
    close to or above 2 inches coupled with the instability will yield=20
    high rainfall rates, with some localized additional rainfall totals
    for this period of 2 to 4+ inches possible. This is supported by=20
    the 00Z HREF guidance, and the setup will support isolated concerns
    for runoff problems/flash flooding. As a result, a Marginal Risk=20
    of excessive rainfall has been expanding to encompass these areas.

    ...Eastern FL...

    Moist easterly low-level flow will continue to support scattered
    areas of convection over eastern FL today through tonight. The
    activity again should tend to be rather disorganized, but there=20
    will be some potential for small-scale east/west oriented bands to=20
    set up that may result in some isolated 2 to 4+ inch rainfall
    totals. This may drive at least some isolated runoff concerns. As a
    result, the Marginal Risk of excessive rainfall is maintained for
    this period.

    Orrison


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Oct 07 2025 - 12Z Wed Oct 08 2025

    ...THERE IS SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE OHIO VALLEY...

    ...Ohio Valley into the Central Appalachians...

    A Slight risk was maintained from portions of northern TN into much=20
    of KY, southern IN and OH, and western WV where isolated to=20
    scattered flash flooding is likely. Increasing southerly flow ahead=20
    of an approaching cold front will advect moisture northward while=20
    also enhancing lower level convergence. Also of note is a sfc-850mb=20
    low that is over AR today and was over the northern Gulf on Sunday.=20
    This feature will get more elongated in nature by Tuesday, but=20
    should still act to locally increase moisture transport and=20
    convergence over KY and surrounding areas. PWs are forecast around=20
    2", which is well over the 90th percentile for this time of year.=20 Instability is expected to only be modest, generally in the 500-1000=20
    j/kg range, however the strong synoptic forcing provided by the=20
    approaching front and good upper level divergence should compensate=20
    for this and still allow for organized convection.

    Both the 00z HREF and REFS show moderate to high probabilities of=20
    hourly rainfall exceeding 1", but only low probabilities of=20
    exceeding 2". The limited instability is likely responsible for=20
    the lack of 2"+ per hour rainfall rates. However the deep saturated=20
    layer and low topped convection supports highly efficient warm rain=20 collision-coalascence processes, leading to the likelihood of at=20
    least 1" per hour rainfall.=20=20

    The main question for flash flood potential will be the duration of=20
    these higher rates, as it seems unlikely that 1hr FFG will be=20
    exceeded. While the front will be progressive, it does look like we=20
    will have enough convective coverage to support some training, and=20
    at least a few hours of heavy rainfall rates. Thus while 1hr FFG may=20
    be difficult to overcome, it does look like there will be an=20
    opportunity for some exceedance of the 3hr FFG...with both the 00z=20
    HREF and REFS showing exceedance probabilities upwards of 25-50%.=20
    The latest WPC QPF indicates event total rainfall of 2-4" over most=20
    of the Slight risk area, which is supported by high HREF and REFS=20 neighborhood probabilities of exceeding 3". Also will note that=20
    there are even moderate probabilities of locally exceeding 5" with=20
    this event.

    There is a bit of model spread on the most favored axis for heaviest=20 rainfall and flash flooding. Both the HREF and REFS supports a=20
    slightly farther southwest axis across KY and northern TN, with the=20
    global guidance generally more over eastern KY into WV. The Slight=20
    risk was made big enough to support a compromise of these two camps,=20
    and will need to continue to monitor trends going forward. Generally=20
    think the highest risk is over KY, but can no rule out that shifting=20
    into northern TN or portions of WV.

    While the rainfall does look a bit more convective now over the=20
    Northeast, 1" per hour probabilities are still low...with most=20
    guidance peaking rainfall rates in the 0.5"-0.75" range. Given the=20
    ongoing drought conditions it still seems unlikely that these rates=20
    will be high enough to overcome the dry soil conditions. Thus even=20
    with rainfall totals approaching 1.5" we will continue with no risk=20
    area depicted.

    ...Southeast FL...

    Expecting another day of scattered convection within the easterly low=20
    level flow Tuesday. Compared to previous days the threat should=20
    mostly be focused over southeast FL by this time, and a localized=20
    urban flash flood risk is possible.

    ...NM...

    The convective threat looks a bit better than it did this time last=20
    night with models trending a bit more robust with development.=20
    Easterly low level post frontal flow will help locally enhance=20
    convergence and upslope and scattered convection is likely to=20
    develop. Instability is forecast to be modest, but may get towards=20
    1000 j/kg, which would be enough for heavy rainfall rates given the=20 anomalous PWs in place. The high res guidance is starting to show a=20
    threat of 1"+ per hour rainfall, which would be enough for isolated=20
    flash flooding.

    Chenard


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Oct 08 2025 - 12Z Thu Oct 09 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF=20
    NEW MEXICO...

    Looking at a continuation of the localized heavy rainfall threat over=20
    NM into Wednesday. The moisture plume and instability axis will=20
    expand westward which should expand the isolated flash flood risk in=20
    that direction as well. The environmental ingredients look pretty=20
    similar to Tuesday, as do model QPF forecasts. So would generally=20
    expect similar convective coverage and intensity with isolated flash=20 flooding again a concern.

    Chenard


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6yywByMHDqxIE-C_e9UglUOh9fXn5ctbW8VdFlrCDdDG= UoTrXjpadRuZY4V3xQ1ovUIW0W6z2vZ6wyW8gIUYL7spXRE$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6yywByMHDqxIE-C_e9UglUOh9fXn5ctbW8VdFlrCDdDG= UoTrXjpadRuZY4V3xQ1ovUIW0W6z2vZ6wyW8gIUYSzDxhYE$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6yywByMHDqxIE-C_e9UglUOh9fXn5ctbW8VdFlrCDdDG= UoTrXjpadRuZY4V3xQ1ovUIW0W6z2vZ6wyW8gIUYCK84gFs$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Mon Oct 6 16:03:32 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 061603
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1203 PM EDT Mon Oct 6 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Mon Oct 06 2025 - 12Z Tue Oct 07 2025

    ...THERE IS SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE MID-SOUTH AND LOWER OHIO VALLEY...

    ...16z update...

    Minor changes were made to the Day 1 ERO for the Mid-South/Lower
    Ohio Valley and the Central Gulf Coast. The slight risk area was
    expanded a little bit farther into southern Indiana/Illinois based
    on hires trends and 12z HREF neighborhood exceedance probabilities
    of 5 inches between 10-20%. A separate band of convection may=20
    develop and lift north through those areas this afternoon/evening.
    By contrast, the deterministic GFS and Euro keep the highest QPf=20
    out of southern IN/IL.

    The marginal risk area over eastern Florida remains unchanged due
    to no significant changes in the guidance.

    Kebede

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Mid-South/Lower Ohio Valley and the Central Gulf Coast...

    An elongated low to mid-level vort center near the central Gulf
    Coast will lift northward into the Mid-South today and gradually
    stretch northeastward into portions of the Lower OH Valley by later tonight through early Tuesday morning. Increasingly convergent flow around
    the eastern flank of the vort energy and an associated weak surface
    low/trough axis coupled with enhancing moisture transport aided by
    a 30 to 40 kt low-level jet will support broken bands of heavy
    showers and thunderstorms. Modest instability with MLCAPE values of
    500 to 1000 J/kg will be in place with the aid of diurnal heating,
    but the vertical column will be quite moist with CIRA-ALPW data
    showing the aforementioned vort energy embedded within a rather
    deep tropical environment characterized by PWs of 2 to 2.25 inches.

    Relatively warm-topped convection with high WBZ levels will support
    very efficient rainfall processes for high rainfall rates as this
    energy lifts north over the next 12 to 24 hours. The latest 00Z
    HREF guidance supports broken convection with rainfall rates as
    high as 1.5 to 2.5 inches/hour, and some concerns for some cell-
    training that may foster some localized totals of 3 to 5 inches.
    The more concentrated areas of convection are most likely to focus
    across areas of eastern AR/western TN northeastward up into western
    KY and southern IN going through Monday night and Tuesday morning
    where the axis of stronger low-level convergence in conjunction
    with some modest upper-level jet forcing/divergence is forecast to
    become aligned. A Slight Risk of excessive rainfall will be
    maintained for this period, with some southward expansion of it
    depicted down across eastern AR compared to continuity given the
    latest multi-model hires consensus. The setup will be conducive
    for there being isolated to scattered areas of flash flooding which
    will include urbanized flooding concerns.

    Meanwhile, very moist and convergent low-level southerly flow off
    the Gulf coupled with a moderately unstable boundary layer will
    favor a threat for additional small-scale bands of convection to
    impact parts of eastern LA along with coastal areas of southern
    MS, southwest AL and into the western FL Panhandle. PWs running
    close to or above 2 inches coupled with the instability will yield
    high rainfall rates, with some localized additional rainfall totals
    for this period of 2 to 4+ inches possible. This is supported by
    the 00Z HREF guidance, and the setup will support isolated concerns
    for runoff problems/flash flooding. As a result, a Marginal Risk
    of excessive rainfall has been expanding to encompass these areas.

    ...Eastern FL...

    Moist easterly low-level flow will continue to support scattered
    areas of convection over eastern FL today through tonight. The
    activity again should tend to be rather disorganized, but there
    will be some potential for small-scale east/west oriented bands to
    set up that may result in some isolated 2 to 4+ inch rainfall
    totals. This may drive at least some isolated runoff concerns. As a
    result, the Marginal Risk of excessive rainfall is maintained for
    this period.

    Orrison


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Oct 07 2025 - 12Z Wed Oct 08 2025

    ...THERE IS SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE OHIO VALLEY...

    ...Ohio Valley into the Central Appalachians...

    A Slight risk was maintained from portions of northern TN into much
    of KY, southern IN and OH, and western WV where isolated to
    scattered flash flooding is likely. Increasing southerly flow ahead
    of an approaching cold front will advect moisture northward while
    also enhancing lower level convergence. Also of note is a sfc-850mb
    low that is over AR today and was over the northern Gulf on Sunday.
    This feature will get more elongated in nature by Tuesday, but
    should still act to locally increase moisture transport and
    convergence over KY and surrounding areas. PWs are forecast around
    2", which is well over the 90th percentile for this time of year.
    Instability is expected to only be modest, generally in the 500-1000
    j/kg range, however the strong synoptic forcing provided by the
    approaching front and good upper level divergence should compensate
    for this and still allow for organized convection.

    Both the 00z HREF and REFS show moderate to high probabilities of
    hourly rainfall exceeding 1", but only low probabilities of
    exceeding 2". The limited instability is likely responsible for
    the lack of 2"+ per hour rainfall rates. However the deep saturated
    layer and low topped convection supports highly efficient warm rain collision-coalascence processes, leading to the likelihood of at
    least 1" per hour rainfall.

    The main question for flash flood potential will be the duration of
    these higher rates, as it seems unlikely that 1hr FFG will be
    exceeded. While the front will be progressive, it does look like we
    will have enough convective coverage to support some training, and
    at least a few hours of heavy rainfall rates. Thus while 1hr FFG may
    be difficult to overcome, it does look like there will be an
    opportunity for some exceedance of the 3hr FFG...with both the 00z
    HREF and REFS showing exceedance probabilities upwards of 25-50%.
    The latest WPC QPF indicates event total rainfall of 2-4" over most
    of the Slight risk area, which is supported by high HREF and REFS
    neighborhood probabilities of exceeding 3". Also will note that
    there are even moderate probabilities of locally exceeding 5" with
    this event.

    There is a bit of model spread on the most favored axis for heaviest
    rainfall and flash flooding. Both the HREF and REFS supports a
    slightly farther southwest axis across KY and northern TN, with the
    global guidance generally more over eastern KY into WV. The Slight
    risk was made big enough to support a compromise of these two camps,
    and will need to continue to monitor trends going forward. Generally
    think the highest risk is over KY, but can no rule out that shifting
    into northern TN or portions of WV.

    While the rainfall does look a bit more convective now over the
    Northeast, 1" per hour probabilities are still low...with most
    guidance peaking rainfall rates in the 0.5"-0.75" range. Given the
    ongoing drought conditions it still seems unlikely that these rates
    will be high enough to overcome the dry soil conditions. Thus even
    with rainfall totals approaching 1.5" we will continue with no risk
    area depicted.

    ...Southeast FL...

    Expecting another day of scattered convection within the easterly low
    level flow Tuesday. Compared to previous days the threat should
    mostly be focused over southeast FL by this time, and a localized
    urban flash flood risk is possible.

    ...NM...

    The convective threat looks a bit better than it did this time last
    night with models trending a bit more robust with development.
    Easterly low level post frontal flow will help locally enhance
    convergence and upslope and scattered convection is likely to
    develop. Instability is forecast to be modest, but may get towards
    1000 j/kg, which would be enough for heavy rainfall rates given the
    anomalous PWs in place. The high res guidance is starting to show a
    threat of 1"+ per hour rainfall, which would be enough for isolated
    flash flooding.

    Chenard


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Oct 08 2025 - 12Z Thu Oct 09 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    NEW MEXICO...

    Looking at a continuation of the localized heavy rainfall threat over
    NM into Wednesday. The moisture plume and instability axis will
    expand westward which should expand the isolated flash flood risk in
    that direction as well. The environmental ingredients look pretty
    similar to Tuesday, as do model QPF forecasts. So would generally
    expect similar convective coverage and intensity with isolated flash
    flooding again a concern.

    Chenard


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6PFuZxcyxTQriYK4iOtRDfHlBxU-_U2BKIInbtKETfET= Hc_pDuqjUH-it79R6tq1gDYlx_MiQ2wfvPryEzKVzPwgiEo$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6PFuZxcyxTQriYK4iOtRDfHlBxU-_U2BKIInbtKETfET= Hc_pDuqjUH-it79R6tq1gDYlx_MiQ2wfvPryEzKVtw0nfAs$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6PFuZxcyxTQriYK4iOtRDfHlBxU-_U2BKIInbtKETfET= Hc_pDuqjUH-it79R6tq1gDYlx_MiQ2wfvPryEzKVoGkEOaY$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Mon Oct 6 16:00:55 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 061600
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1200 PM EDT Mon Oct 6 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Mon Oct 06 2025 - 12Z Tue Oct 07 2025

    ...THERE IS SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE MID-SOUTH AND LOWER OHIO VALLEY...

    ...16z update...

    Minor changes were made to the Day 1 ERO for the Mid-South/Lower
    Ohio Valley and the Central Gulf Coast. The slight risk area was=20
    expanded a little bit farther into southern Indiana/Illinois based=20
    on hires trends and 12z HREF neighborhood exceedance probabilities=20
    of 5 inches between 10-20%. A secondary band of convection may
    occur over those areas this afternoon/evening. By contrast, the=20 deterministic GFS and Euro keep the highest QPf out of southern=20
    IN/IL.=20

    The marginal risk area over eastern Florida remains unchanged due=20
    to no significant changes in the guidance.

    Kebede

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Mid-South/Lower Ohio Valley and the Central Gulf Coast...

    An elongated low to mid-level vort center near the central Gulf
    Coast will lift northward into the Mid-South today and gradually
    stretch northeastward into portions of the Lower OH Valley by later tonight through early Tuesday morning. Increasingly convergent flow around
    the eastern flank of the vort energy and an associated weak surface
    low/trough axis coupled with enhancing moisture transport aided by
    a 30 to 40 kt low-level jet will support broken bands of heavy
    showers and thunderstorms. Modest instability with MLCAPE values of
    500 to 1000 J/kg will be in place with the aid of diurnal heating,
    but the vertical column will be quite moist with CIRA-ALPW data
    showing the aforementioned vort energy embedded within a rather
    deep tropical environment characterized by PWs of 2 to 2.25 inches.

    Relatively warm-topped convection with high WBZ levels will support
    very efficient rainfall processes for high rainfall rates as this
    energy lifts north over the next 12 to 24 hours. The latest 00Z
    HREF guidance supports broken convection with rainfall rates as
    high as 1.5 to 2.5 inches/hour, and some concerns for some cell-
    training that may foster some localized totals of 3 to 5 inches.
    The more concentrated areas of convection are most likely to focus
    across areas of eastern AR/western TN northeastward up into western
    KY and southern IN going through Monday night and Tuesday morning
    where the axis of stronger low-level convergence in conjunction
    with some modest upper-level jet forcing/divergence is forecast to
    become aligned. A Slight Risk of excessive rainfall will be
    maintained for this period, with some southward expansion of it
    depicted down across eastern AR compared to continuity given the
    latest multi-model hires consensus. The setup will be conducive
    for there being isolated to scattered areas of flash flooding which
    will include urbanized flooding concerns.

    Meanwhile, very moist and convergent low-level southerly flow off
    the Gulf coupled with a moderately unstable boundary layer will
    favor a threat for additional small-scale bands of convection to
    impact parts of eastern LA along with coastal areas of southern
    MS, southwest AL and into the western FL Panhandle. PWs running
    close to or above 2 inches coupled with the instability will yield
    high rainfall rates, with some localized additional rainfall totals
    for this period of 2 to 4+ inches possible. This is supported by
    the 00Z HREF guidance, and the setup will support isolated concerns
    for runoff problems/flash flooding. As a result, a Marginal Risk
    of excessive rainfall has been expanding to encompass these areas.

    ...Eastern FL...

    Moist easterly low-level flow will continue to support scattered
    areas of convection over eastern FL today through tonight. The
    activity again should tend to be rather disorganized, but there
    will be some potential for small-scale east/west oriented bands to
    set up that may result in some isolated 2 to 4+ inch rainfall
    totals. This may drive at least some isolated runoff concerns. As a
    result, the Marginal Risk of excessive rainfall is maintained for
    this period.

    Orrison


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Oct 07 2025 - 12Z Wed Oct 08 2025

    ...THERE IS SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE OHIO VALLEY...

    ...Ohio Valley into the Central Appalachians...

    A Slight risk was maintained from portions of northern TN into much
    of KY, southern IN and OH, and western WV where isolated to
    scattered flash flooding is likely. Increasing southerly flow ahead
    of an approaching cold front will advect moisture northward while
    also enhancing lower level convergence. Also of note is a sfc-850mb
    low that is over AR today and was over the northern Gulf on Sunday.
    This feature will get more elongated in nature by Tuesday, but
    should still act to locally increase moisture transport and
    convergence over KY and surrounding areas. PWs are forecast around
    2", which is well over the 90th percentile for this time of year.
    Instability is expected to only be modest, generally in the 500-1000
    j/kg range, however the strong synoptic forcing provided by the
    approaching front and good upper level divergence should compensate
    for this and still allow for organized convection.

    Both the 00z HREF and REFS show moderate to high probabilities of
    hourly rainfall exceeding 1", but only low probabilities of
    exceeding 2". The limited instability is likely responsible for
    the lack of 2"+ per hour rainfall rates. However the deep saturated
    layer and low topped convection supports highly efficient warm rain collision-coalascence processes, leading to the likelihood of at
    least 1" per hour rainfall.

    The main question for flash flood potential will be the duration of
    these higher rates, as it seems unlikely that 1hr FFG will be
    exceeded. While the front will be progressive, it does look like we
    will have enough convective coverage to support some training, and
    at least a few hours of heavy rainfall rates. Thus while 1hr FFG may
    be difficult to overcome, it does look like there will be an
    opportunity for some exceedance of the 3hr FFG...with both the 00z
    HREF and REFS showing exceedance probabilities upwards of 25-50%.
    The latest WPC QPF indicates event total rainfall of 2-4" over most
    of the Slight risk area, which is supported by high HREF and REFS
    neighborhood probabilities of exceeding 3". Also will note that
    there are even moderate probabilities of locally exceeding 5" with
    this event.

    There is a bit of model spread on the most favored axis for heaviest
    rainfall and flash flooding. Both the HREF and REFS supports a
    slightly farther southwest axis across KY and northern TN, with the
    global guidance generally more over eastern KY into WV. The Slight
    risk was made big enough to support a compromise of these two camps,
    and will need to continue to monitor trends going forward. Generally
    think the highest risk is over KY, but can no rule out that shifting
    into northern TN or portions of WV.

    While the rainfall does look a bit more convective now over the
    Northeast, 1" per hour probabilities are still low...with most
    guidance peaking rainfall rates in the 0.5"-0.75" range. Given the
    ongoing drought conditions it still seems unlikely that these rates
    will be high enough to overcome the dry soil conditions. Thus even
    with rainfall totals approaching 1.5" we will continue with no risk
    area depicted.

    ...Southeast FL...

    Expecting another day of scattered convection within the easterly low
    level flow Tuesday. Compared to previous days the threat should
    mostly be focused over southeast FL by this time, and a localized
    urban flash flood risk is possible.

    ...NM...

    The convective threat looks a bit better than it did this time last
    night with models trending a bit more robust with development.
    Easterly low level post frontal flow will help locally enhance
    convergence and upslope and scattered convection is likely to
    develop. Instability is forecast to be modest, but may get towards
    1000 j/kg, which would be enough for heavy rainfall rates given the
    anomalous PWs in place. The high res guidance is starting to show a
    threat of 1"+ per hour rainfall, which would be enough for isolated
    flash flooding.

    Chenard


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Oct 08 2025 - 12Z Thu Oct 09 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    NEW MEXICO...

    Looking at a continuation of the localized heavy rainfall threat over
    NM into Wednesday. The moisture plume and instability axis will
    expand westward which should expand the isolated flash flood risk in
    that direction as well. The environmental ingredients look pretty
    similar to Tuesday, as do model QPF forecasts. So would generally
    expect similar convective coverage and intensity with isolated flash
    flooding again a concern.

    Chenard


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8clLCxSuOFZ3lDOqRtmk7MUdUBvTdrcZB9P3v5upJyVH= 42B0CTUQvX6HWo2UiPf989XY3E-8nGjRvhHwmeN4ToDEMk0$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8clLCxSuOFZ3lDOqRtmk7MUdUBvTdrcZB9P3v5upJyVH= 42B0CTUQvX6HWo2UiPf989XY3E-8nGjRvhHwmeN4Z391juU$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8clLCxSuOFZ3lDOqRtmk7MUdUBvTdrcZB9P3v5upJyVH= 42B0CTUQvX6HWo2UiPf989XY3E-8nGjRvhHwmeN4-KCyowo$=20

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