• bail

    From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Thu Feb 27 09:57:00 2025
    Setting bail based on income sounds like a good idea, but I honestly don't kno
    what was wrong with the original system. My state rep said "The cash bail system wasn't fair to poor people," but the crimes they are accused of aren't fair to the crime victims.

    I think that is the problem with the original system, or at least it is the complaint about it. If bail was based on income, or the abilty of the
    accused to pay it, that should eliminate the complaint that the system is
    not fair to poor people. I don't necessarily believe it would lead to more people being let go, which is not fair to victims, and would be more fair
    to everyone... certainly more so than "cashless bail."


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Thu Feb 27 13:41:34 2025
    I think that is the problem with the original system, or at least it is the complaint about it. If bail was based on income, or the abilty of
    the accused to pay it, that should eliminate the complaint that the
    system is not fair to poor people. I don't necessarily believe it would lead to more people being let go, which is not fair to victims, and
    would be more fair to everyone... certainly more so than "cashless bail."

    I think I recommended that to my state rep but she's not allowed to have a mind of her own and she has an obligation to follow directions from the big cheese.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ROB MCCART on Mon Mar 10 09:58:00 2025
    I wouldn't be surprised if the US republican party isn't thinking of
    > prison labor as a replacement for seasonal migrant workers from Mexico.

    Yes, I saw some info on that, how they get the dirtiest jobs and are
    paid next to nothing for it.

    Ideally, they are working towards a possible early release. If they can be trusted enough to behave while out working and not cause trouble, that
    should earn points towards early parole.

    In some cases, I know they are also learning skills that they can use to
    gain employment when the get out. Unfortunately, some will use those skills
    to grift the unsuspecting, as some of the local "tree trimmer" "businesses" do here.

    For-profits, lobbyist, and politicians may be corrupting this system to
    where they are not earning points with good behavior while being out on a
    labor or work release assignment.


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  • From Rob Mccart@1:2320/105 to MIKE POWELL on Wed Mar 12 01:06:00 2025
    I wouldn't be surprised if the US republican party isn't thinking of
    > prison labor as a replacement for seasonal migrant workers from Mexico.

    Yes, I saw some info on that, how they get the dirtiest jobs and are
    >> paid next to nothing for it.

    Ideally, they are working towards a possible early release. If they can be
    >trusted enough to behave while out working and not cause trouble, that
    >should earn points towards early parole.

    That makes sense. I hadn't thought about early release as much as they
    do usually get paid a small wage for the work which gives them some
    money to get a start once they get out.

    In some cases, I know they are also learning skills that they can use to
    >gain employment when the get out. Unfortunately, some will use those skills
    >to grift the unsuspecting, as some of the local "tree trimmer" "businesses" d
    >here.

    Yes on both counts.. learning a skill is always good but a new skill can
    be used for good or evil..

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