• Greasy Spoons was: Chill

    From Dave Drum@1:396/45 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Feb 28 08:09:30 2025
    Ruth Haffly RE: Greasy Spoons was:Chilli

    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I usually order something other than chili, especially if I don't know much about the chili. I've had some (at cook offs) that have been
    really nasty.

    Having tried bowls of "chilli" all over te US I know better than to
    order a bowl of red anywhere near the Northeastern US. It's most
    likely gonna be a bland hamburger/tomato soup.

    When we were stationed at Fort Devens, MA, we joined a small church in Ayer, just outside the post. We were only there for 6 months, before moving on to AZ but they had a chili cook off in that time frame. One
    of the chilis tasted like a burning cigarette had been mixed into it;
    both of us tasted it and had the same opinion. That was probably the
    worst chili we've ever had.

    I wonder what cpuld have caused that sort of off-taste? I'll assume you've
    not researched it. Bv)=

    Not so many places around here. We tried a new in town sushi place yesterday in a building that can't seem to keep a restaurant more than
    6 months. I think this is the 3rd or 4th different iteration since we

    8<----- SHORTEN ----->8

    top notch. Found another sushi place here in town last summer; it was
    ok but not of the quality we've gotten at ToJ. Still, we'd go back to
    that place over the new one, given a choice.

    So, you gonna go back?

    Probably to the place we went to last spring, but not to the one we
    tried on Sunday.

    There are a couple places in town where one can still get a bowl
    of "good old, greasy, Springfield tavern chilli. Both do very well
    selling that stuff.

    Typical greasy spoons? (G)

    Actually not. One is the Dublin Pub, a mid-level sit-down restaurant
    using the old Vic's Pizza recipe. The other is a tavern (Brickhouse)
    and sports bar on the city's west side.

    Greasy spoon chili in a not so greasy spoon eatery.

    We' don't gots no greasy spoons around here. Our health department is "on
    the ball" and the local daily publishes their results on those who fail the test(s).

    around. But, since we don't have as much snow removal equipment in this part of the state as the western part does, the secondary and back
    roads stay snow covered longer. Therefore, the kids get more snow days, government shuts down and the whole state comes down to a slow crawl.

    Sounds like a comment I first made when driving a semi through
    Arkansas during a winter event. Talking on the CB raDIO (remember
    those?) I told a guy who was crying about how slick it was "In
    Arkansas they think salt is something youm put on your French Fries
    not your roads." Bv)=

    This area brines the roads first, then when the stuff (in whatever
    form) starts coming down, they go out with sand and salt. Car washes do
    a booming business after the storms pass.

    Illinois goes bridge decks with the brine. The trucks have signs warning
    to stay back 100 feet. But, you're going to be closer than that before you
    can read the warning. Go figger. I know what the trucks look like and I
    keep waaaaaay further back than 100 feet.

    As they do in this area. I keep a monthly subscription at one between
    home and work. Hit it often for thew undercar wash to get ride of any
    salt build-up. Not to mentions the salty coating on the bodywork.

    We can't use a lot of the commercial washes because of the high cap on
    the back of the truck. So, it's usually a DIY project, awaiting a nice
    day without rain in the foreseeable forecast.

    Best "rain dance" I know is to freshly wash your ride. Bv)=

    4 c Dried pinto beans
    1 Ham hock
    15 oz Can tomato sauce
    1/4 c Chilli spice mix
    1/4 c Brown sugar
    2 tb (to 3 tb) white vinegar
    5 cl Garlic; minced
    1 lg Onion; peeled, diced small

    Recipe courtesy of Ree Drummond

    Looks more like bean soup--and brown sugar????????????

    Sure. Why not. I'd add cumin and less chilli spice. But, it's an
    OK (really) recipe for beans to add to chilli.

    If I'm not using my chilli beans I'll do Bush's or Brooks Hot
    Chili Beans.

    I usually use kidney beans; I know, not your favorite bean, but it's
    what we both grew up with in our mom's chili.

    You and 99% of the East Coast of 'Murrica

    ... Books are better than TV; they exercise your imagination.

    That's been a tenet of mine forever. Movies and boob tube show you the
    writer's or director's vision of what's happening. A book lets your mind
    build its own screenplay. I note that Gene Hackman died yesterday. Many
    of his movie roles inspired me to get the source material - if only to
    see what was left out. Bv)=

    Since the only "French Connection" recipe I could find is for a cocktail
    and neither of us ....... I picked this to "Burtonise" the post.

    MMMMM---- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: French Coil Pastry W/Spinach & Feta
    Categories: Greens, Cheese, Vegetables, Nuts, Pastry
    Yield: 6 servings

    MMMMM-------------------------FILLING--------------------------------
    250 g (9 oz) fresh/frozen spinach
    - chopped, drained
    200 g (7 oz) Danish feta or other
    - creamy feta
    1/2 c Toasted walnuts or pine nuts
    2 cl Garlic
    1 1/2 c Shredded cheese; your chpoce
    2 lg Eggs; separated into a bowl
    - of whites and a bowl of
    - yolks

    MMMMM---------------------------PASTRY-------------------------------
    Non stick spray or butter
    - to grease pan
    14 Sheets fresh filo pastry
    200 g (7 oz) butter; melted
    5 tb Fine breadcrumbs
    1 Handful of nuts (your
    - choice) to decorate

    Make the filling by combining the spinach, feta, garlic,
    walnuts or pine nuts, garlic, cheese and egg whites in a
    food processor and process until cohesive. Fill a piping
    bag with the mixture and refrigerate until needed.

    Set the oven @ 200ºC/400ºF. Grease a 25cm/10" pie plate
    with butter or non stick oil spray. Line a clean surface
    with a sheet of non stick parchment and take out your
    filo pastry. Filo dries out very quickly so have a damp
    tea towel on top of it to prevent it from drying. Take
    out one sheet and recover pastry. Brush with butter and
    then place another on top of this and butter and repeat
    until you have four buttered sheets on top of each
    other. Sprinkle some breadcrumbs on top as shown and
    then pipe the filling along the bottom.

    Lift the edge of the paper and roll the pastry over
    rolling quite tightly. Lay it out carefully on the
    greased pie dish covering this with a damp tea towel.
    Repeat another two times so that you use a total of 12
    sheets of pastry (4 sheets for three logs). I found that
    I needed a bit more to fill in the centre so I cut the
    last two sheets of pastry in half and did a shorter log.

    With the two egg yolks, brush the top of the pastry well
    with the egg yolk mixture and scatter nuts on top. Bake
    in oven for 20-25 minutes until golden brown.

    An Original Recipe by Lorraine Elliot

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.notquitenigella.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Feb 28 14:07:54 2025
    Hi Dave,

    Having tried bowls of "chilli" all over te US I know better than to
    order a bowl of red anywhere near the Northeastern US. It's most
    likely gonna be a bland hamburger/tomato soup.

    When we were stationed at Fort Devens, MA, we joined a small church in Ayer, just outside the post. We were only there for 6 months, before moving on to AZ but they had a chili cook off in that time frame. One
    of the chilis tasted like a burning cigarette had been mixed into it;
    both of us tasted it and had the same opinion. That was probably the
    worst chili we've ever had.

    I wonder what cpuld have caused that sort of off-taste? I'll assume
    you've not researched it. Bv)=

    No, and have forgotten about it except as a reminder of how bad chili
    can be. Some years ago, a family in our church won the chili cook off
    with a sausage and pineapple abomination--don't know what the judges
    were thinking on that one! I did place in it, but heard a number of
    comments about the unusual "chili".


    Greasy spoon chili in a not so greasy spoon eatery.

    We' don't gots no greasy spoons around here. Our health department is
    "on the ball" and the local daily publishes their results on those who fail the test(s).

    The Raleigh paper publishes them on a weekly basis also. I see a number
    of B grades but usually nothing lower. The listing usually lists some of
    the violations that were noted.

    This area brines the roads first, then when the stuff (in whatever
    form) starts coming down, they go out with sand and salt. Car washes do
    a booming business after the storms pass.

    Illinois goes bridge decks with the brine. The trucks have signs
    warning to stay back 100 feet. But, you're going to be closer than
    that before you can read the warning. Go figger. I know what the
    trucks look like and I keep waaaaaay further back than 100 feet.

    We've seen the tracks but rarely see the trucks in action.

    As they do in this area. I keep a monthly subscription at one between
    home and work. Hit it often for thew undercar wash to get ride of any
    salt build-up. Not to mentions the salty coating on the bodywork.

    We can't use a lot of the commercial washes because of the high cap on
    the back of the truck. So, it's usually a DIY project, awaiting a nice
    day without rain in the foreseeable forecast.

    Best "rain dance" I know is to freshly wash your ride. Bv)=

    Of course! Had some rain last night but I think it is supposed to be
    clear (and cooling off again) for a few days.

    OK (really) recipe for beans to add to chilli.

    If I'm not using my chilli beans I'll do Bush's or Brooks Hot
    Chili Beans.

    I usually use kidney beans; I know, not your favorite bean, but it's
    what we both grew up with in our mom's chili.

    You and 99% of the East Coast of 'Murrica

    It's the way we were indoctrinated. I've had the sense to break away
    from doing it all the time tho.


    ... Books are better than TV; they exercise your imagination.

    That's been a tenet of mine forever. Movies and boob tube show you the writer's or director's vision of what's happening. A book lets your
    mind build its own screenplay. I note that Gene Hackman died
    yesterday. Many of his movie roles inspired me to get the source
    material - if only to
    see what was left out. Bv)=

    I don't think I've seen any of his movies. My dad's old newspaper boss (editor/owner) also owned the theater as part of the same building. He
    let employees and families in for free. When he passed away, the theater
    part was sold to an outsider, no more free movies so I think I saw maybe
    half a dozen (if that) more before leaving home. Steve and I haven't
    gone to a lot of movies either, just never got into it. I did talk him
    into seeing "Gone With the Wind" a couple of months after we got
    married. (G)

    Since the only "French Connection" recipe I could find is for a
    cocktail and neither of us ....... I picked this to "Burtonise" the
    post.


    Title: French Coil Pastry W/Spinach & Feta
    Categories: Greens, Cheese, Vegetables, Nuts, Pastry
    Yield: 6 servings

    It works--and looks interesting.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:124/5016 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Mar 2 06:59:20 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I wonder what cpuld have caused that sort of off-taste? I'll assume
    you've not researched it. Bv)=

    No, and have forgotten about it except as a reminder of how bad chili
    can be. Some years ago, a family in our church won the chili cook off
    with a sausage and pineapple abomination--don't know what the judges
    were thinking on that one! I did place in it, but heard a number of comments about the unusual "chili".

    Not everything called chilli is actually chilli. I was competing in a "district" cook-off (less than 20 cooks) some years ago and the #1 bowl
    of red, according to the judges, was a cook who had put an entire regular sized bottlem of Hunt's Catsup into his pot just before "turn in". He may
    have won the trophy and the $$$$ but he didn't get a single "People's
    Choice" vote.

    Greasy spoon chili in a not so greasy spoon eatery.

    We don't gots no greasy spoons around here. Our health department is
    "on the ball" and the local daily publishes their results on those who fail the test(s).

    The Raleigh paper publishes them on a weekly basis also. I see a number
    of B grades but usually nothing lower. The listing usually lists some
    of the violations that were noted.

    All of the chilli cook offs in this area get a visit from the health department. I got an attempted "ding" from aninspector for not having
    a thermometer present. So, I lifted the lid of the chilli pot to the
    stew bubbling merrily along and siad "What's boiling point?"

    She started to ask "What's that ... " which was as far as she got when I
    saw her "get it" and she turned and left. Bv)=

    This area brines the roads first, then when the stuff (in whatever
    form) starts coming down, they go out with sand and salt. Car washes do
    a booming business after the storms pass.

    Illinois does bridge decks with the brine. The trucks have signs
    warning to stay back 100 feet. But, you're going to be closer than
    that before you can read the warning. Go figger. I know what the
    trucks look like and I keep waaaaaay further back than 100 feet.

    We've seen the tracks but rarely see the trucks in action.

    If they look like there's a ground fog following them they're putting
    down ice melter.

    As they do in this area. I keep a monthly subscription at one between
    home and work. Hit it often for thew undercar wash to get ride of any
    salt build-up. Not to mentions the salty coating on the bodywork.

    We can't use a lot of the commercial washes because of the high cap on
    the back of the truck. So, it's usually a DIY project, awaiting a nice
    day without rain in the foreseeable forecast.

    How high is the cap? If it will fit under a drive-thru awning it will go
    nicely through most of the car washes around here. Most of them worry
    about the ball on the hitch tangling and damaging the big spinning brush
    that does the rear of the vehicle.

    8<----- CLIP----->8

    ... Books are better than TV; they exercise your imagination.

    That's been a tenet of mine forever. Movies and boob tube show you the writer's or director's vision of what's happening. A book lets your
    mind build its own screenplay. I note that Gene Hackman died
    yesterday. Many of his movie roles inspired me to get the source
    material - if only to see what was left out. Bv)=

    I don't think I've seen any of his movies. My dad's old newspaper boss (editor/owner) also owned the theater as part of the same building. He
    let employees and families in for free. When he passed away, the
    theater part was sold to an outsider, no more free movies so I think I
    saw maybe half a dozen (if that) more before leaving home. Steve and I haven't gone to a lot of movies either, just never got into it. I did
    talk him into seeing "Gone With the Wind" a couple of months after we
    got married. (G)

    I worked at a local drive-in theater in my teens. And in the late 70s got
    a job as a projectionist at an "adult" cinema. Talk about boooooring. As
    long as those old Brinkert projectors were running well I got a lot of book work (reading) done.

    Since the only "French Connection" recipe I could find is for a
    cocktail and neither of us ....... I picked this to "Burtonise" the
    post.

    Title: French Coil Pastry W/Spinach & Feta
    Categories: Greens, Cheese, Vegetables, Nuts, Pastry
    Yield: 6 servings

    It works--and looks interesting.

    The pixture accompanying the original recipe was nice. I'd probably
    enjoy eating it. Doubt I'll ever make it, though.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Movie Candy Caramel Corn
    Categories: Snacks, Nuts, Grains
    Yield: 24 Cups

    16 c Popped popcorn
    5 c Mini pretzels
    2 c Brown sugar; firm packed
    1 c Butter
    1/2 c Dark corn syrup
    1/2 ts Salt
    1/2 ts Baking soda
    1 c Salted peanuts
    2 c Favorite candy *

    * Candy corn, mini chocolate mints, chocolate covered
    raisins or peanuts, M&M's, bridge mix, whatever you want.

    Heat oven to 200ºF/93ºC. In large roasting pan combine
    popcorn and pretzels; set aside. In 2 quart saucepan,
    combine brown sugar, butter, corn syrup and salt. Cook
    over medium heat, stirring occasionally, until mix comes
    to a boil (12-14 minutes). Continue cooking, stirring
    occasionally, until candy thermometer reads 230ºF/110ºC
    or small amount of mix dropped in ice water forms a soft
    ball (4-6 minutes). Remove from heat; stir in baking
    soda. Pour over popcorn mixture; sprinkle peanuts over
    coating. Stir until popcorn is coated.

    Bake for 20 minutes; stir. Continue baking for 25
    minutes. Remove from oven; stir in candy. Immediately
    place caramel corn on waxed paper; cool completely.

    Break into pieces. Store in tightly covered container.

    Makes 24 cups.

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Mar 3 14:31:30 2025
    Hi Dave,


    I wonder what cpuld have caused that sort of off-taste? I'll assume
    you've not researched it. Bv)=

    No, and have forgotten about it except as a reminder of how bad chili
    can be. Some years ago, a family in our church won the chili cook off
    with a sausage and pineapple abomination--don't know what the judges
    were thinking on that one! I did place in it, but heard a number of comments about the unusual "chili".

    Not everything called chilli is actually chilli. I was competing in a "district" cook-off (less than 20 cooks) some years ago and the #1
    bowl of red, according to the judges, was a cook who had put an entire regular sized bottlem of Hunt's Catsup into his pot just before "turn
    in". He may have won the trophy and the $$$$ but he didn't get a
    single "People's Choice" vote.

    Doesn't sound like anything I'd vote for. I'm not much of a ketchup
    eater to begin with, and knowing that there was a bottle of it in the
    pot of chili would have turned me off, fast!

    Greasy spoon chili in a not so greasy spoon eatery.

    We don't gots no greasy spoons around here. Our health department is
    "on the ball" and the local daily publishes their results on those who fail the test(s).

    The Raleigh paper publishes them on a weekly basis also. I see a number
    of B grades but usually nothing lower. The listing usually lists some
    of the violations that were noted.

    All of the chilli cook offs in this area get a visit from the health department. I got an attempted "ding" from aninspector for not having
    a thermometer present. So, I lifted the lid of the chilli pot to the
    stew bubbling merrily along and siad "What's boiling point?"

    She started to ask "What's that ... " which was as far as she got when
    I saw her "get it" and she turned and left. Bv)=

    Makes you wonder, sometimes, how they got to be food inspectors. The VFW
    post here runs a chuck wagon at community events as a fund raiser. All
    who are involved with running it in any form have to go thru the county
    food handler's certification class. AFAIK, it has never been "audited"
    but I'm sure it would pass.


    If they look like there's a ground fog following them they're putting
    down ice melter.

    As they do in this area. I keep a monthly subscription at one between
    home and work. Hit it often for thew undercar wash to get ride of any
    salt build-up. Not to mentions the salty coating on the bodywork.

    We can't use a lot of the commercial washes because of the high cap on
    the back of the truck. So, it's usually a DIY project, awaiting a nice
    day without rain in the foreseeable forecast.

    How high is the cap? If it will fit under a drive-thru awning it will
    go nicely through most of the car washes around here. Most of them

    We don't do drive thru awnings. The truck and cap would probably fit but
    we've got radio antennas that would not fit. Having done the drive thru
    at the bank a few times, we know not to try it at a fast food place.


    ... Books are better than TV; they exercise your imagination.

    That's been a tenet of mine forever. Movies and boob tube show you the writer's or director's vision of what's happening. A book lets your
    mind build its own screenplay. I note that Gene Hackman died
    yesterday. Many of his movie roles inspired me to get the source
    material - if only to see what was left out. Bv)=

    I don't think I've seen any of his movies. My dad's old newspaper boss (editor/owner) also owned the theater as part of the same building. He
    let employees and families in for free. When he passed away, the
    theater part was sold to an outsider, no more free movies so I think I
    saw maybe half a dozen (if that) more before leaving home. Steve and I haven't gone to a lot of movies either, just never got into it. I did
    talk him into seeing "Gone With the Wind" a couple of months after we
    got married. (G)

    I worked at a local drive-in theater in my teens. And in the late 70s
    got a job as a projectionist at an "adult" cinema. Talk about
    boooooring. As long as those old Brinkert projectors were running well
    I got a lot of book work (reading) done.

    Good time to get studying done. (G)


    Since the only "French Connection" recipe I could find is for a
    cocktail and neither of us ....... I picked this to "Burtonise" the
    post.

    Title: French Coil Pastry W/Spinach & Feta
    Categories: Greens, Cheese, Vegetables, Nuts, Pastry
    Yield: 6 servings

    It works--and looks interesting.

    The pixture accompanying the original recipe was nice. I'd probably
    enjoy eating it. Doubt I'll ever make it, though.

    I've come to that realisation with a lot of recipies. Went thru a stack
    of saved newspaper food sections over the past week or so, think I saved
    maybe a dozen recipies to try.


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    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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