• New non fidonet areas are always added to Group A and not their group

    From Sean Rima@2:263/1.95 to All on Thu Nov 20 14:58:40 2025

    Hello everybody!

    I have, besides Fidonet, Micronet and a few others. I am finding that the echos are being added to the Fidonet group and not their own

    Sean


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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Sean Rima on Thu Nov 20 17:36:52 2025
    Hi Sean,

    On 2025-11-20 14:58:40, you wrote to All:

    I have, besides Fidonet, Micronet and a few others. I am finding that
    the echos are being added to the Fidonet group and not their own

    You mean when using the 'addnew' function of ftools?

    That's a documented feature ;-) :

    """
    6.11 Addnew

    Automatically add new areas detected during FMail Toss to the
    FMAIL.AR. FMail will use the default settings defined in the <---
    AreaMgr defaults section of FConfig. A name for JAM areas is
    generated automatically.

    ÿ FTools Addnew [-A]

    [-A] AutoExport external config files
    See paragraph 3.5.2 for which files this relates to,
    and how to configure them.
    """

    And you have to realize a Group is not the same as a network. Groups are used for giving users access to a number of areas that are part of a group.
    I have multiple groups for Fidonet areas. Local, Regional, European, and Worldwide areas are in different groups.

    And FMail has no knowledge which group is used for which network.

    Personally I don't use the automatic Addnew function of ftools. There are hardly ever any new areas in the networks I'm connected to, and when they arrive I want to handle them manually.


    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Sean Rima@2:263/1.95 to Wilfred van Velzen on Thu Nov 20 17:10:38 2025

    Hello Wilfred!

    20 Nov 25 17:36, you wrote to me:

    I have, besides Fidonet, Micronet and a few others. I am finding
    that the echos are being added to the Fidonet group and not their
    own

    You mean when using the 'addnew' function of ftools?

    That's a documented feature ;-) :

    """
    6.11 Addnew

    Add ok. I will work around it :)

    Personally I don't use the automatic Addnew function of ftools. There
    are hardly ever any new areas in the networks I'm connected to, and
    when they arrive I want to handle them manually.

    OK, I will try to add all. Will be a pain to migrate a lot of users over, but is doable

    Sean


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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Sean Rima on Thu Nov 20 18:23:55 2025
    Hi Sean,

    On 2025-11-20 17:10:38, you wrote to me:

    Personally I don't use the automatic Addnew function of ftools. There
    are hardly ever any new areas in the networks I'm connected to, and
    when they arrive I want to handle them manually.

    OK, I will try to add all. Will be a pain to migrate a lot of users over, but
    is doable

    There are the import functions for other softwares configuration files in fconfig!

    And if you know your way with Python, I have some rudimentary python code that can read and write the fmail.ar file (with the areas configuration). And import and export to json format... Maybe that could be of help?

    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Sean Rima@2:263/1.95 to Wilfred van Velzen on Thu Nov 20 17:45:33 2025

    Hello Wilfred!

    20 Nov 25 18:23, you wrote to me:

    There are the import functions for other softwares configuration files
    in fconfig!

    And if you know your way with Python, I have some rudimentary python
    code that can read and write the fmail.ar file (with the areas configuration). And import and export to json format... Maybe that
    could be of help?

    It will more than be manual as I use BBBS. I am currently porting some of my rss to echo scripts over. First one was a sucess. The plan is in time, to move to binkd and have it already done so no change for links

    Sean


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