On the one hand, I really don't like the idea of funding a foreign war. On the other hand, back in the 1990s the Western powers (*including* the USA) promised to defend Ukraine against Russia as a trade-off for
Ukraine giving up the former USSR nukes that were in their territory.

That's fair to say about funding, it would be even better to say funding foreign wars was never part of US history and political strategy to keep post WWII dominance. This one is no different than Venezuela, Iran-Iraq wars, Aftanistan, etc... It's obvious that if there is a deal, your country is more than happy to sponsor any war, anywhere without a blink of an eye.

What Ukraine is fighting for is to stay legitimate as sovereign country and without a territorial loss and all they seek for is partnership with potential allies who think it's equally important and beneficial for them to win that goal.

US is shifting from that partnership. I believe it will just mobilize EU to stay united in both supporting Ukraine on that journey and to eliminate any sort of US dominance in Europe as a whole. Huge chance this will succeed in the long-run.

Rest will just become history.

Now, our current leadership seems to be trying to get around that by denying that Russia invaded Ukraine at all. They seem to believe that "peace" means laying down their weapons and letting Russia have whatever they want.

So much for American promises.

Correct. that makes Trump administration untrusted and USA's any sort of partnership in Europe compromised. That will turn over eventually, but in the next years I'm expecting more fun in getting EU more independent and punching back.

Thus... yeah.. isolationism maybe works for many domestic groups in the country and that's OK to admin to the general satisfaction of Trump's electorate in USA... but it won't help it stay relevant in international politics if that continues... and may actually make your crusade against the Chinese be driven solo.

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On the one hand, I really don't like the idea of funding a foreign war. On the other hand, back in the 1990s the Western powers (*including* the USA) promised to defend Ukraine against Russia as a trade-off for Ukraine giving up the former USSR nukes that were in their territory.

That's fair to say about funding, it would be even better to say funding foreign wars was never part of US history and political strategy to keep post WWII dominance. This one is no different than Venezuela, Iran-Iraq wars, Aftanistan, etc... It's obvious that if there is a deal, your country is more
than happy to sponsor any war, anywhere without a blink of an eye.

Yeah, no kidding. The military industrial complex is very strong here.
For reasons I cannot fathom, they must not be pushing our leaders to get involved in this one as I am sure it is a potential money making venture
for them.

US is shifting from that partnership. I believe it will just mobilize EU to stay united in both supporting Ukraine on that journey and to eliminate any sort of US dominance in Europe as a whole. Huge chance this will succeed in th
long-run.

Rest will just become history.

It will not be a good thing for the US in the long run, not to have allies,
but it would certainly benefit Europe if they were able to move away from
being dominated from abroad.

Thus... yeah.. isolationism maybe works for many domestic groups in the countr
and that's OK to admin to the general satisfaction of Trump's electorate in USA... but it won't help it stay relevant in international politics if that continues... and may actually make your crusade against the Chinese be driven solo.

You would think they might realize that such a reaction might push these
other countries towards partnering with China... making them stronger...
but I don't think they have thought that far ahead.


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You would think they might realize that such a reaction might push these other countries towards partnering with China... making them stronger... but I don't think they have thought that far ahead.

And that's why I think this chess board is not yet fully set and see these "tough" have equal chance of bluffing a lot of their art in the business.

otherwise I see a lot of tax payer dissat when realized they got all but gain.

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I was worried that Trump was going to give in to Zelenski today. I need
to stop worrying about stuff like that!

Trump nailed it. No more money to fight Russia, because we don't want anymore fighting, and we just want peace.

European speaking, fine with the money, happy to dedolarize the world. you guys are defaulted anyway with your money... just speculating the other way.

but as a diplomatic standard, it was just a TV shit show driven by dumb comedian and to be clear, Trump was that bad comedian yesterday.

I'm with Zelensky in this case.

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European speaking, fine with the money, happy to dedolarize the world. you guy
are defaulted anyway with your money... just speculating the other way.

but as a diplomatic standard, it was just a TV shit show driven by dumb comedian and to be clear, Trump was that bad comedian yesterday.

I'm with Zelensky in this case.

On the one hand, I really don't like the idea of funding a foreign war. On
the other hand, back in the 1990s the Western powers (*including* the USA) promised to defend Ukraine against Russia as a trade-off for Ukraine giving
up the former USSR nukes that were in their territory.

Now, our current leadership seems to be trying to get around that by
denying that Russia invaded Ukraine at all. They seem to believe that "peace" means laying down their weapons and letting Russia have whatever they want.

So much for American promises.

Americans who think that is a good idea would probably not be acting so casually if, say, Mexico were to invade the USA and take back their former territories. I can say this with confidence as we already saw how those
people reacted when latino refugees "invaded" via Mexico during the Biden administration.


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but as a diplomatic standard, it was just a TV shit show driven by dumb comedian and to be clear, Trump was that bad comedian yesterday.

I'm with Zelensky in this case.

I saw an old lady down the street walking with her purse unzipped. There ya go buddy. Good luck.

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